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Gurren Lagann Large fix promised 3000 years ago Set 1 Part 1

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Alrighty turn on the Music


Let's get this started:

So yea arguments are in the blog but I am gonna summarise the topics at hand and what they entail
  • Spiral Power
    • Abilities from being able to use Spiral Power
  • Information
    • Addressing this thread
    • Proving why Information is type-2
    • Characters that benefit from it and what abilities they get
  • Regeneration
    • Again addressing this thread
    • Explaining what Soul is in context to Gurren Lagann
    • Removing MGR
    • Adding proper justification for LGR
  • Acausality
    • Explanation
    • Making the justification better
TLDR; Added tons of scans that back up the arguments for Information, Regeneration and Acausality. Argued for addition of Information Type-2 in place of Information type-1 and removal of Mid Godly Regeneration
Q: What about the Translations, did you get those checked out ?
Well 99% of them come directly from previous CRT's and are already accepted. I will link those CRT's as for the ones that are new no 🙂‍↔️ which is why I will wait for Executor or Setto to grace me but by themselves they aren't really that important hence I didn't want to delay stuff any longer.
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Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Cosmology Page
This Blog
If you find a scan that isn't in any of those tell me I will put it in a seperate section and update the OP (hopefully it gets TLed)
Q: Did you think you could sneak in those manga scans despite knowing that manga and anime vary ?
Well yes, Anime does vary from Manga to some extent so does the movies I am actually planning on doing something about that but the manga by itself isn't used as a justification for anything instead it's more so used as a supporting evidence to lend some credence as in “Oh look aside from the anime, Databooks, movie and novel in the same series of events the manga also backs me up” rather than “the manga said otherwise so no”
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Q: Buut...
Read the blog properly....(This is a joke btw plz don't get offended)
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Also if anyone is wondering I will likely keep this thread up even after meeting the minimum requirements for mod votes in an ideal world I would prefer atleast 5 mod votes and approval from a TL member before proceeding. As for what I want to do with this blog, I think it would be good to have it as a page and create a link for it under the verse page or the cosmology Page since I believe it can be useful but if this notion is rejected then I am fine with merely accepting it and allowing it to be cited/linked by profile pages.
That's all for now hope you have had a fun read, Abayo, dachi kô.
Here's motivation to go on with your day/night
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DarkDragonMedeus said:
This link looks broken to me, but other than that, the OP looks great.
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Oh yea it's the same link as the first just forgot to fix it mb, it's fixed now also updated OP on another note I assume you are fine with making this into a page for the verse that could be linked or no ?
Cipher72 said:
I think it would be good to have it as a page and create a link for it under the verse page or the cosmology Page since I believe it can be useful but if this notion is rejected then I am fine with merely accepting it and allowing it to be cited/linked by profile pages.
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Thx
Zanesucksatlife said:
Agree
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Cipher72 said:
Alrighty turn on the Music


Let's get this started:

So yea arguments are in the blog but I am gonna summarise the topics at hand and what they entail
  • Spiral Power
    • Abilities from being able to use Spiral Power
  • Information
    • Addressing this thread
    • Proving why Information is type-2
    • Characters that benefit from it and what abilities they get
  • Regeneration
    • Again addressing this thread
    • Explaining what Soul is in context to Gurren Lagann
    • Removing MGR
    • Adding proper justification for LGR
  • Acausality
    • Explanation
    • Making the justification better
TLDR; Added tons of scans that back up the arguments for Information, Regeneration and Acausality. Argued for addition of Information Type-2 in place of Information type-1 and removal of Mid Godly Regeneration
Q: What about the Translations, did you get those checked out ?

Thread 1
Thread 2
Thread 3
Cosmology Page
This Blog
If you find a scan that isn't in any of those tell me I will put it in a seperate section and update the OP (hopefully it gets TLed)
Q: Did you think you could sneak in those manga scans despite knowing that manga and anime vary ?

Q: Buut...
Also if anyone is wondering I will likely keep this thread up even after meeting the minimum requirements for mod votes in an ideal world I would prefer atleast 5 mod votes and approval from a TL member before proceeding. As for what I want to do with this blog, I think it would be good to have it as a page and create a link for it under the verse page or the cosmology Page since I believe it can be useful but if this notion is rejected then I am fine with merely accepting it and allowing it to be cited/linked by profile pages.
That's all for now hope you have had a fun read, Abayo, dachi kô.
Here's motivation to go on with your day/night
z6detf.webp

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I kinda helped with this so yeah agree (I just did anti spiral and gave him like 20 scans)
 
Spiral Power
Why have a resistance tabber for general abilities if it has nothing?

Removal & Rewording of Abilities
The Anti-Spiral section just has extra bolding that shouldn't be there.
 
Looks good, agree with the revisions
 
That Reactive Evolution seems like Reactive Power Level to me, which now belong to Accelerated Development

I somewhat disagree with Aca 2, i don't remember the exact scan but integrating all your alternate timeline selves isn't grant you that ability because it didn't mean you suddenly lacking your past and your future

The rest is oke though seeing that Nia final moment scan killed me for a while 🫥. I'm gonna get traumatized
 
Vietthai96 said:
That Reactive Evolution seems like Reactive Power Level to me, which now belong to Accelerated Development
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Really ? I just copied off of the old profile one second.
Reactive Evolution is the ability to, in response to threats and adverse situations, evolve in ways the user previously lacked. This allowing them to be better capable of dealing with said issues faced, and this evolution can come in the following ways:
  • Developing new powers or abilities
  • Developing new resistances
  • Developing greater statistics. However, if this is the only way in which they "evolve", then Accelerated Development should be given instead to avoid redundancy.
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I think this works no ?
They develop new powers and abilities such as Simon being able to drill the water and move in the water (I could get scans for this if needed) or Team Dai Gurren somehow generating a Super-Spiral space to create TTGL because the actual mech can't fit in the space or Simon creating a drill out of his blood. I think this works.
Resistance is already there but the best example to cite is Kittan who was able to literally defy probability, resist Gravity in the Death spiral field or Team Dai Gurren all of whom are capable of resisting Anti Spiral's probability Manipulation and Power Nullification.
I don't have to talk about the stats but yea I get your point I will adjust the hax based on the specific key since the early showing are lackluster I will shift it.
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I somewhat disagree with Aca 2, i don't remember the exact scan but integrating all your alternate timeline selves isn't grant you that ability because it didn't mean you suddenly lacking your past and your future
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Not the argument, The Multiversal labyrinth traps "any and all possible version of yourself" and Simon merged with all of them meaning he merged will all possible versions across all of past present and future along with alternative versions. This essentially means that the Simon is unaffected by someone affecting his younger version since "that possibility exists and is merged with Simon"
He is essentially a composite Simon so yea I think this is clear cut AC-2.
I get why you found it confusing actually it's a very good thing you did because I don't expect someone to understand if they are not well versed (hence the blog, I will try to improve the explanation)
I will quote the thing
''“Yeah!” The members of the Gurren Lagann behind me nodded vigorously when I said that. Thank you, brother. I believe in you who believes in me. I believe in my friends who believes in myself. Simon held up his core drill to the heaven and a flash of light flashed across the sky. Innumerable appearances of Simon appeared in the sky, and they were the past, the present, and the future, every place, every time, and the innumerable selves that live in a world of infinite possibilities. There is no escaping wherever you go. In a closed infinite universe, various lives are repeated. In that universe of possibilities, Simon twisted the innumerable selves he had drilled into one, twisting them together into a giant drill, and before he realized that It was a huge drill, Simon wasn't there but Gurren Lagann. There stood Gurren Lagann, holding up the giga drill, “Let's go, buddy!”'')
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Essentially in Gurren Lagann there's "Infinite Possibilities" but only one of them is made real (you can check this segment) so what Simon did is merge with all of those infinite possibilities meaning there's no "past" or "future" Simon per se. His past, future etc went from being "a possibility" to "the reality" he is essentially a walking talking 2-A multiverse 🫠 so yea.
Thx for the evaluation, can you check the arguments for the Soul Section and see if there's anything wrong there or no ?
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though seeing that Nia final moment scan killed me for a while 🫥. I'm gonna get traumatized
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I feel bad now
Edit: Brackets 🫠
 
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Cipher72 said:
I think this works no ?
They develop new powers and abilities such as Simon being able to drill the water and move in the water (I could get scans for this if needed) or Team Dai Gurren somehow generating a Super-Spiral space to create TTGL because the actual mech can't fit in the space or Simon creating a drill out of his blood. I think this works.
Resistance is already there but the best example to cite is Kittan who was able to literally defy probability, resist Gravity in the Death spiral field or Team Dai Gurren all of whom are capable of resisting Anti Spiral's probability Manipulation and Power Nullification.
I don't have to talk about the stats but yea I get your point I will adjust the hax based on the specific key since the early showing are lackluster I will shift it.
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better make a collection of scans to explain this

Cipher72 said:
Not the argument, The Multiversal labyrinth traps "any and all possible version of yourself" and Simon merged with all of them meaning he merged will all possible versions across all of past present and future along with alternative versions. This essentially means that the Simon is unaffected by someone affecting his younger version since "that possibility exists and is merged with Simon"
He is essentially a composite Simon so yea I think this is clear cut AC-2.
I get why you found it confusing actually it's a very good thing you did because I don't expect someone to understand if they are not well versed (hence the blog, I will try to improve the explanation)
I will quote the thing
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Oke i guess

Cipher72 said:
Thx for the evaluation, can you check the arguments for the Soul Section and see if there's anything wrong there or no ?
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The soul section is oke from a glance

But anyway while info 2 is oke, i'm not exactly liking this part

made up of the collective information of the Anti-spiral race
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The scan didn't say the collective information, it is mostly talking about their thought body that lacks substance, so i recommend you to keep your explanation blog as the evidence because the justification and the scan isn't align with each other at all and is misleading
 
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