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(ACCEPTED) Sliming all Honkai Scaling (GONE BRUTAL)

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Ngl i didnt even know they had a T0 and didnt know you could decide which T0 was stronger than the other but cool
There are like grades within the Tier is respect to causal hierarchy. The basis for Tier 0 is essentially Being-itself, but there are entities like the Root who are radically supra-essential and are both beyond and undifferentiated from all categories, of which "Being" is included in as well
 
There are like grades within the Tier is respect to causal hierarchy. The basis for Tier 0 is essentially Being-itself, but there are entities like the Root who are radically supra-essential and are both beyond and undifferentiated from all categories, of which "Being" is included in as well
there's no grades within vsbws tier 0 dawg they're all considered fundamentally equal no matter portrayal
 
there's no grades within vsbws tier 0 dawg they're all considered fundamentally equal no matter portrayal
In this wiki. But Ultima acknowledges the difference himself (I believe).

I don't think he'd be one to say that Nous for example doesn't fit the standard for Tier 0 even if it's an emanation. (Tho I've heard he also thinks the Good is literally just empty so who knows)
 
In this wiki. But Ultima acknowledges the difference himself (I believe).

I don't think he'd be one to say that Nous for example doesn't fit the standard for Tier 0 even if it's an emanation. (Tho I've heard he also thinks the Good is literally just empty so who knows)
so wtf tier 0 does yog satoth has
 
Damn, i almost see Aeons 4-D
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Now, if you've read them, then you should hopefully be clear on the mechanics behind how the Bubble Worlds are formed; in that, the various membranes of the Sea of Quanta, by having a distance small enough so that the very membranes (i.e dimensions) that make them up, overlap within each other, creating a 4-dimensional space.
i guess since we have a grace period ill try my hand at one last rebuttle (not that it matters much 4 staff already agreed but lets have fun)
in the ss you used where otto says

Pv-Rdx-BZ-d-1.webp


the analogous distance between the 2 membranes (bubble universes) is small enough they begin to influence each other- for example exchanging matter.

you say that "the various membranes of the Sea of Quanta, by having a distance small enough so that the very membranes (i.e. dimensions) that make them up, overlap within each other, creating a 4-dimensional space." i would argue the analogous distance is referring to the similarity of the reality the bubble universes make up instead of the distance between the "dimensions". when the bubble universes (membranes) become too similar they end up overlapping and exchanging matter due to their similarities. there isn't anything describing the distance between the dimensions of the sea of quanta only the similarities between the bubble universes causing them to overlap. its easier for a smaller dimensions to be overlapped by higher dimensions and those higher dimensions are being overlapped by the sea of quanta
 
Lowkey Low 1-C is the tier HSR gets if it stands independently from HI3 since High 1-C, 1-B, Low 1-A, 1-A, 1-A+ and so on are from HI3

HI3 as a verse could be nuked and HSR wouldn't be affected by this point since Aeons have superiority over Real Space anyway which should atleast be a +1 dimensional difference since they have to descend (and with Real Space directly stated to be four dimensional on the Sirin scan)

But still, wiping High 1-C from HI3 is insane
 
Lowkey Low 1-C is the tier HSR gets if it stands independently from HI3 since High 1-C, 1-B, Low 1-A, 1-A, 1-A+ and so on are from HI3

HI3 as a verse could be nuked and HSR wouldn't be affected by this point since Aeons have superiority over Real Space anyway which should atleast be a +1 dimensional difference since they have to descend (and with Real Space directly stated to be four dimensional on the Sirin scan)

But still, wiping High 1-C from HI3 is insane
personally i dont see how we got to compact dimensions theres no dimensions in the SoQ stated to be compact feel free to correct me if im wrong
 
personally i dont see how we got to compact dimensions theres no dimensions in the SoQ stated to be compact feel free to correct me if im wrong
SoQ was never compact tbh, but if anything even if we disregard this, it still should be 7-D

Ether Bathtub + Ryusuke's +1 dimensional difference feat is Low 1-C given the former contains infinite quantity amounts of Bubble Worlds whilst being stated it cannot be explained in 3 or 4 dimensional framework

Otto's transcendence over reality is 6-D (since this is still accepted to be +1 dimensional difference anyway), then we have the Aeons who are superior than this = 7-D
 
In this wiki. But Ultima acknowledges the difference himself (I believe).

I don't think he'd be one to say that Nous for example doesn't fit the standard for Tier 0 even if it's an emanation. (Tho I've heard he also thinks the Good is literally just empty so who knows)
Fairly certain Ultima only differentiates Logical and Illogical Omnipotence. That is it. And even then those two aren't different in terms of caliber of such a state. Its just different descriptions, since Tier 0 is already beyond logic itself in its entirety.

But best we stop this off-topic discussion in this Thread.
 
There are like grades within the Tier is respect to causal hierarchy. The basis for Tier 0 is essentially Being-itself, but there are entities like the Root who are radically supra-essential and are both beyond and undifferentiated from all categories, of which "Being" is included in as well
Well actually Root would be treated the same as other Tier 0, that's just how it is
 
SoQ was never compact tbh, but if anything even if we disregard this, it still should be 7-D

Ether Bathtub + Ryusuke's +1 dimensional difference feat is Low 1-C given the former contains infinite quantity amounts of Bubble Worlds whilst being stated it cannot be explained in 3 or 4 dimensional framework

Otto's transcendence over reality is 6-D (since this is still accepted to be +1 dimensional difference anyway), then we have the Aeons who are superior than this = 7-D
Do you want to apply the changes first or should I make the thread for 7-D Aeons and 6-D Real Space (where the Emanators scale), Honkai Energy would be 5-D since it's from the Ether Bathtub if anything, because even Low 1-C is incorrect in its lowest scaling possible
 
same guy who cracked supernova btw
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No my thighs are for someone else unfortunately (cough cough High 1-B for Emanators and High 1-B+ Honkai for Aeons) since the scan itself is accepted to be the amount of dimensions here + MGQ used to say finite High 1-B in size is still High 1-B back in the Blue Archive thread but yeah I feel like thats the highest we could get here atleast, I'll make one after this
 
i guess since we have a grace period ill try my hand at one last rebuttle (not that it matters much 4 staff already agreed but lets have fun)
in the ss you used where otto says

Pv-Rdx-BZ-d-1.webp


the analogous distance between the 2 membranes (bubble universes) is small enough they begin to influence each other- for example exchanging matter.

you say that "the various membranes of the Sea of Quanta, by having a distance small enough so that the very membranes (i.e. dimensions) that make them up, overlap within each other, creating a 4-dimensional space." i would argue the analogous distance is referring to the similarity of the reality the bubble universes make up instead of the distance between the "dimensions". when the bubble universes (membranes) become too similar they end up overlapping and exchanging matter due to their similarities. there isn't anything describing the distance between the dimensions of the sea of quanta only the similarities between the bubble universes causing them to overlap. its easier for a smaller dimensions to be overlapped by higher dimensions and those higher dimensions are being overlapped by the sea of quanta
the enitre scan for the SoQ. take the translations as you will while they arent 100% accurate to the screenshots on the wiki we can logically assert they mean the same thing
 
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