Honkaiverse - Conceptual manipulation

[Nighting4l33yes]

Not sure how this relates to the point at all. That they establish something is literally not something I’ve disagreed with. So I’m not sure why it has to be mentioned.


The point was whether or not a concept exists independently of the Path. So however your comment relates.


No… it states if the constants (here, intelligent life) fails, then the universe fails.

And to the thing you quoted, of course the Instants anchor the Universe. Because that’s quantum collapse, leading to a singular future. Yao Guang already explained this lol. And we even used it against Asat Pramad.


No… it reaches Nous because Nous has created the single biggest Knowledge Singularity. We know that Paths can exist without an Aeon, so killing Nous doesn’t actually do the job. It’s why he has to target all intelligent life as well, because each of them are individual constants just like how Nous is.

Again, I’ll quote Lygus:

The underlying principle you’re talking about is the very inter-relation of intelligent beings with each other. It is the act of observation that anchors particular Singularities/Circles, which is why Lygus wanted to kill Nous.


Of course the code leading it to destruction destroys the Universe… because it means the Universe is observed for Destruction. And all intelligent life disappears as well. Because then what does this message even address, at least pertaining to CM1? For we know that the thing that reverses calculations is explicitly a memetic virus controlling the intellectual capability of beings. You would have to import additional unfounded facts to purport your interpretation when we know exactly how the attack works.

The process being the calculative faculty of life.


Of course. Because Nous is the single greatest observer. So if it isnt destroyed, the Universe remains anchored to their calculations due to it having the greatest Circle of Knowledge in the Universe.


The anchor being the Circle of Knowledge… with the Instants in particular being wherein all possibilties have been observed, collapsing the Universe into a singular future. We literally did this to Asat this patch. Please don’t keep taking stuff out of context, when it should just be read holistically.

The Asat example proves that observation can anchor and collapse possibilities, but it does not prove that observation creates the underlying principles being observed. Yao Guang is stabilizing Asat's true form by forcing a quantum state into a definite outcome. She is not creating Asat or creating the concept that allows quantum states to exist

Lygus targeting intelligent life does not necessarily mean Erudition is merely the collective observation of lifeforms. Intelligent life and Nous are the mechanisms through which Erudition expresses itself, because they perform calculation and generate knowledge. Irontomb's goal is to corrupt that process so that calculations resolve toward Destruction instead.

I do partially agree though that Lygus is describing an observer-dependent aspect of reality. The question is whether he means concepts are generated from individual observers or whether Erudition is the cosmic process that allows concepts/possibilities to become defined and stabilized. The fact that Nous itself is the target suggests the latter is not merely about killing observers, but about overturning the highest-level calculation framework

 

[SuperNova55555]

but it does not prove that observation creates the underlying principles being observed.

This is literally what Asat’s whole ability is, by the way. Realities are created as they are observed similarly to how alternate possibilities of Asat are. An Instant is when someone observes all of them, and thus anchors a singular future.

Lygus targeting intelligent life does not necessarily mean Erudition is merely the collective observation of lifeforms. Intelligent life and Nous are the mechanisms through which Erudition expresses itself, because they perform calculation and generate knowledge. Irontomb's goal is to corrupt that process so that calculations resolve toward Destruction instead.

You keep adding the baggage of “expression” here but it address anything? Because for as long as I grant CM2, there exists some principle of Erudition. The entire point is how it relates to it’s particulars which is CM2-like.

I do partially agree though that Lygus is describing an observer-dependent aspect of reality. The question is whether he means concepts are generated from individual observers or whether Erudition is the cosmic process that allows concepts/possibilities to become defined and stabilized. The fact that Nous itself is the target suggests the latter is not merely about killing observers, but about overturning the highest-level calculation framework

Nothing that hasn’t been addressed before. Really.

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

This is literally what Asat’s whole ability is, by the way. Realities are created as they are observed similarly to how alternate possibilities of Asat are. An Instant is when someone observes all of them, and thus anchors a singular future.

Asat's thing establishes that observation can anchor a particular outcome from a field of possibilities. It does not establish that the underlying principle being observed is merely created by the observer. A measurement collapsing a quantum state does not mean the laws governing the quantum state are produced by the measurement. The possibilities existed before them. Yao Guang used her OWN power of the Skyplume and the other thingie through causal manipulation. Simply observing it wasn't enough.

You keep adding the baggage of “expression” here but it address anything? Because for as long as I grant CM2, there exists some principle of Erudition. The entire point is how it relates to it’s particulars which is CM2-like.

The point of expression is not to say that destroying expressions damages the source. I agree that would be CM2. The point is that the particulars are not arbitrary manifestations but instead they are the actual operation of the Path. I mean you yourself said once that "merely writing in a diary is an act of Remembrance".

 

[Voidnether]

Prime Voidnether is back

It’s the same idea… they just failed because they couldn’t execute it properly. In fact, Rubert II was literally gonna self-coronate himself but he got slimed by Polka. Lol. Its literally the same exact thing.

Not really tbh, Rubert II was spreading the equation, Irontomb straight up did both (self-coronating + destroying the universe)

Classic Nether yap. Not touching that.

@PedjaTarzan I can't believe this albanian got so scared

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

This thread ain't gonna end well for any of us ohh

 

[Shiroiyo]

Not sure what this adds, because it can’t be that you think Stigma descending into Reality is remotely anything like a universal of sorts. That it’s conceptual, that’s fine, but these aren’t the principles of anything.

Also the last sentence is out of context and has little to do with conceptual manipulation. You can read this part if you want, but it should be clear even to an outsider that it has nothing to do with what OP is talking about. Paths and Forms in Stigma Space aren’t related to each other. I’m not sure where you’re even getting this correlation from.
And the former isn’t CM1 exclusive, it’s also applicable to CM2.

Regardless of their individual functions, they are consistently described as concepts originating from the Imaginary, which establishes the nature of the Imaginary itself, they consistently demonstrate the same conceptual framework. As for the CM thing, yeah Type 2 can do that as well, but the Imaginary space satisfies CM1, paths are concepts existing within Imaginary

can’t tell if you’re genuine with this. I won’t even entertain the Otto part because the entire argument is so unserious, that it would be unserious to address it in-itself.

Secondly, the analogy is misused, people don’t actually participate in Stigma. Which should be obvious. I mean firstly, it’s not coherent for a concept to descend to physicality as such, because she literally does, you’re just taking statements out of context again. The whole point is the reversal of Real and Imaginary in that arc. So humans go to Imaginary Space and Stigma descend to Real Space. And secondly, a major plot point of the arc is that mfs genuinely don’t have Stigmata. That’s why humanity was turned into a dream. So what are these humans existing with lol? And like, what about the part where they have to be turned into the Stigmata themselves? A particular becoming it’s own universal? Ridiculous. Omg bro look, alter ego CM1!! Don’t worry about her being literally just a physical being whilst in Real Space that goes and fights mfs like any other human! She was called a “Form” so I’m allowed to ignore literally all holistic meaning and take all of these allegories out of context!

As for Otto, that's fair, I only used that statement because it was loosely connected to shadows and the relationship between the Imaginary and Real in the series, something that Mobius and Kevin also stated in the context of the story arc where we learned more about concepts in Hi3, or things in general we already knew about the Imaginary

Hare is explicitly described as a conceptual existence. Due to the instability of her existence, she involuntarily returns to the Imaginary and is projected back into the Real. Furthermore, statements describing her as incorporeal/non-physical are made while she is present in Real Space, suggesting that her manifestation in Reality is not equivalent to becoming an ordinary physical being.

I also don't think this necessarily requires us to disregard the other statements. A work of fiction can draw enough inspiration from something to satisfy a wiki standard without reproducing every aspect of that 100% verbatim. The question isn't whether Honkai is identical to X, but whether its own cosmology satisfies enough the criteria used for concepts outlined on the CM page.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Not really tbh, Rubert II was spreading the equation, Irontomb straight up did both (self-coronating + destroying the universe)

Perhaps influenced by such a desire for control, in the waning days of the Second Emperor's War, Rubert II finally decided to expand his own cognition with the Scepter system to create a certain unknown Knowledge Singularity. Returning to the role of a seeker of knowledge, he prepared an experiment known as the "Self-Coronation."

Rubert II died before he could complete the Self-Coronation — some opine that he abandoned the idea halfway through, and others say a scalpel stopped his cognition. The Scepter systems were also completely disabled during the Scholars' Strife, and to this day, they quietly drift through the darkness, reduced to no more than some war ruins that travelers visit, or piles of space trash awaiting clean-up.

This is in the game lil bro.

@PedjaTarzan I can't believe this albanian got so scared

Cold.

I mean you yourself said once that "merely writing in a diary is an act of Remembrance".

Yea. And? That’s also CM2.

Yao Guang used her OWN power of the Skyplume and the other thingie through causal manipulation.

Uh. Her power is the capability of observing multiple possibilities. What are we talking about here.

Asat's thing establishes that observation can anchor a particular outcome from a field of possibilities. It does not establish that the underlying principle being observed is merely created by the observer. A measurement collapsing a quantum state does not mean the laws governing the quantum state are produced by the measurement.

Literally none of this is contradictory with it being CM2.

Asat Pramad: You should be glad that THEIR plan has failed. Nobody knows what happens to a universe that has its Paths broken.

Asat Pramad: An unknowable, incalculable universe of madness... a universe where every direction is forward, and there is no end. Time flows, yet nothing ever happens. Space stretches on, yet there is nowhere to go... even existence itself defies all logic.

A Path is quite simply a way in which the Universe is calculated. To establish a Path is to calculate the Universe in some sense, and thus establish a boundary to it:

No, it shouldn't be THEY, but all of THEM rather. All the Gods who created and sustained the Paths of the universe... They define the boundaries, deciding which will become reality, and which will be erased.

And within that grand order woven by the gods, a paradox had long been planted, an unforeseeable ending, one even Nous, the omniscient god failed to foresee.

When every variable is fixed by the Path, the unseen, and forever unseeable "unknown" begins to grow quietly at the edge of all rules, fated to become the end.

THIS is why changing Nous’ calculations can drive the Universe towards Destruction. This is why if an Omniscient being calculates it in some way, it becomes fixed. This is literally a property all Paths possess, it just that it is properly exemplified through the Erudition. It is simply a twofold interaction between the observants/“calculators” and the Path itself. That it exists as some underlying principle is not contradictory to this, because it simply exists immanently.

This is why Lygus hates Nous, because Paths establish the boundary of knowledge, and thus humans cannot calculate beyond what is determined by them. So to destroy a Path, you simply have to calculate it differently. Thus you destroy the ‘definers’. Here being beings with intellection towards Erudition. (Which is just all beings).

Regardless of their individual functions, they are consistently described as concepts originating from the Imaginary, which establishes the nature of the Imaginary itself, they consistently demonstrate the same conceptual framework.

The Imaginary has concepts. Sure. But Stigma and Paths aren’t related. If it’s broadly conceptual, that’s something I already agree with.

Hare is explicitly described as a conceptual existence. Due to the instability of her existence, she involuntarily returns to the Imaginary and is projected back into the Real. Furthermore, statements describing her as incorporeal/non-physical are made while she is present in Real Space, suggesting that her manifestation in Reality is not equivalent to becoming an ordinary physical being.

This doesn’t really follow. She’s intangible because she’s an imaginary entity that descends to Real Space. That doesn’t excuse this is directly contradictory to CM1, or that there is nothing to prove she ‘still exists’ within Imaginary Space aside from headcanon.

 

[PlungingThroughTime]

Huh? What? Body sharing is not mutually exclusive with it being Seele’s body. I’m not sure what the point is here.

Okay, I've thought about it for a bit. It's more likely Veliona existing on her own in her imaginary state is what Misteln was commenting on is a Form.
This is specifically the state she's in when she's in / forced out of Veliona's mind, not inhabiting Seele's body.

Mei: Easy for you to say. But if we take it literally…
Mei: The purpose of Project STIGMA is to create something like you, an existence between humans and Stigmata?

Veliona, inhabiting Seele's human body, is very obviously human. Seele is a stigma awakened human, it's the same reason she's transported to the moon when Project Stigma began.

Outside of such, where Veliona has no truely physical form, of course she's not human.

But yeah, comments of Veliona being a form used to debunk the idea are just moot in general.

This doesn’t really follow. She’s intangible because she’s an imaginary entity that descends to Real Space. That doesn’t excuse this is directly contradictory to CM1, or that there is nothing to prove she ‘still exists’ within Imaginary Space aside from headcanon.

Not all Imaginary Entities that descend to Real Space are intangible. In fact, most are completely tangible.

Husk Nihilus description:

It briefly appeared in the imaginary fractures and suspected to be a creation of the Imaginary Tree.

Husk Existentialism description:

A creation from the Imaginary that has the special ability to "influence rules". World Serpent understood its unique nature and thus modified it into a tool to recreate the world in Project Stigma.

Husk Mysticism description:

A mysterious entity appearing on the Moon's surface in the bubble universe; it's thought to be a spawn of the Imaginary Tree.

You've played the game, I expect you to know these are all tangible. Mei even fights Husk Nihilus without Herrscher powers with just a sword.

Simply put, Hare isn't intangible because she's an imaginary entity that descends to Real Space. She's intangible because she's a conceptual existence and thus has to be projected into the real world.

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Yea. And? That’s also CM2.

No that's an ontology thing.

Uh. Her power is the capability of observing multiple possibilities. What are we talking about here.

Her power is observing those. But she collapsed them through causal manip. She explains this when she explains her condition.

A Path is quite simply a way in which the Universe is calculated. To establish a Path is to calculate the Universe in some sense, and thus establish a boundary to it:

This actually shows why "expression" matters. A universe without Paths is not described as one where nobody is around to interpret it. That implies Paths are not the subjective observations of intelligent beings, but principles that structure how reality operates. Observation is clearly the mechanism through which some Paths manifest, but breaking the Path itself has consequences beyond simply removing observers. Observation can anchor a particular possibility but it doesn't prove that observation is the sole source of the principle being anchored. A measurement collapses a state and again, it does not mean the laws governing that state are created by the measurement.

I think the disagreement is that you're treating the observer-Path interaction as the Path itself. I agree that Erudition involves observers calculating and stabilizing reality, and that Nous is the greatest example of this. I myself explained that his Instants are anchoring the universe. But the quotes about Paths establishing boundaries actually imply that Paths are the frameworks that determine what calculations are possible, not merely the calculations performed by observers. A calculator using a system does not become identical to the system itself.

Irontomb is dangerous because it changes the calculation principle itself. It takes the same mechanism that produces knowledge/predictability under Erudition and makes it produce Destruction. The virus is the method of spreading the altered calculation, but the thing being inverted is the Path principle.

 

[SuperNova55555]

Simply put, Hare isn't intangible because she's an imaginary entity that descends to Real Space. She's intangible because she's a conceptual existence and thus has to be projected into the real world.

Yea but in what sense is she “projected”? Because the ontology of the projection itself is wholly unrelated to the concept itself. Because it cannot follow that a projection in-itself cannot be physical.

Because the wording sure as hell doesn’t lend to her having some transcendental essence, as if a Form has to be released by imaginary disturbance, as if some phenomena acts on her within Stigma Space to knock her out.

Because now you have to cash an entire new aspect of her ontology to satisfy some inherently non-contradictory aspect of her body simply being special:

Because then, this seems extremely unparsimonious as an interpretation.

Because then, what is the cohesiveness here? For not only Gray Serpent to reaffirm that what exists beside him is the concept itself, but that she can clone herself and die? I mean, we knew Project Stigma aimed at the creation of these Forms to begin with, but now there are even more burdens to satisfy as to how cloning the body itself now is the same thing. As if there lacks a distinction between the body and the Form. I mean, somehow even worse, we know Hare is alive and actively thinks whilst inside Stigma Space, so the Form there is her. What happens when she dies then? Does the Form go poof lol?

So it’s not even implicitly implied no less explicitly so. Which means all that your interpretation is based on is a single point about her body having special ontology, which can super easily be explained by the body being the Form itself. Not even a single distinction is implied, nor addressed on her body and essence or of the sort. Which is just then resorted to how much conjecture can be made for a single allegory, of which then can just be disregarded by unparsimony.

No that's an ontology thing.

Her power is observing those. But she collapsed them through causal manip. She explains this when she explains her condition.

This actually shows why "expression" matters. A universe without Paths is not described as one where nobody is around to interpret it. That implies Paths are not the subjective observations of intelligent beings, but principles that structure how reality operates. Observation is clearly the mechanism through which some Paths manifest, but breaking the Path itself has consequences beyond simply removing observers. Observation can anchor a particular possibility but it doesn't prove that observation is the sole source of the principle being anchored. A measurement collapses a state and again, it does not mean the laws governing that state are created by the measurement.

I think the disagreement is that you're treating the observer-Path interaction as the Path itself. I agree that Erudition involves observers calculating and stabilizing reality, and that Nous is the greatest example of this. I myself explained that his Instants are anchoring the universe. But the quotes about Paths establishing boundaries actually imply that Paths are the frameworks that determine what calculations are possible, not merely the calculations performed by observers. A calculator using a system does not become identical to the system itself.

Irontomb is dangerous because it changes the calculation principle itself. It takes the same mechanism that produces knowledge/predictability under Erudition and makes it produce Destruction. The virus is the method of spreading the altered calculation, but the thing being inverted is the Path principle.

Yea this is going nowhere. I’ll continue this discussion when the mods eventually decide to show up either tomorrow or in 5 months.

 

[Mbpoops]

 

[Nonynho]

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Would y'all please summarize what are opposing and favorable lines of thinking? that maaaaaaaaaaaaay help make mods solve this a tad bit faster!

 

[SuperNova55555]

Would y'all please summarize what are opposing and favorable lines of thinking? that maaaaaaaaaaaaay help make mods solve this a tad bit faster!

Ima do it when mods actually show up vro

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

All I see is agenda posting/j

 

[Nonynho]

Aight, always here to help if needed

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

Would y'all please summarize what are opposing and favorable lines of thinking? that maaaaaaaaaaaaay help make mods solve this a tad bit faster!

Aight, always here to help if needed

how do u have animated pfp

 

[Nonynho]

how do u have animated pfp

you can add .gif archives as your pfp
150x150 iirc

 

[VoidGoji]

I Agree with the thread

 

[Scrubforhire]

how do u have animated pfp

Why this guy acting like I never existed dawg

 

[Hecky2222]

I agree with May's wife

 

[Addipuss]

agree with the thread and we need the mods again but ah they be loving this shit again. they prob going to face palm thereself and ignored 5 months if goes though we cm 1 just have someone revert it not cm 3 but cm 2 then just someone else revent it from cm2 to cm3 and then someone else will remove it all together and take cm out of hoyoverse along with be nerf down to city level gojo level shit and down road all way to outerversal type shit and cm 1 get added back just 4 month down the road again goes all down to this type let say uni level maybe bit too op planet level sound nice and oh cm become removed again this pretty how its been going on with many crt there upgrade downground back and forth more times think other verse ever had... as far i ever seen so tbh.. i wont be suprise going like this and at end... suddly go to boundless and everyone boundless just **** it all sideways and everyone does not become city level become building level... tbh wont be suprise me too and each down ground and upgrade it take 6 months at min with many say give few years maybe 20 years and hoyoverse itself be building level aeons yep building level,acheron.... poor woman who cant get gps building level oh... welt.. building level and oh gravity... yah.. no longer apply to him its gone.. deleted and oh.. hote or finality can call it that only though look bigger then mult planets its just an illusion and in reality just small cave not even a building level and crt take another 8 months in the end

 

[SuperNova55555]

Why is bro post so long, I can’t even read that

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Why is bro post so long, I can’t even read that

You can read my question instead fr

 

[Addipuss]

Why is bro post so long, I can’t even read that

bro can't read this small post yet bro can read these type of posts https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgrading-lord-of-the-mysteries.169107/ but said is too long damn.. since when did you have short attention span i mean you making long pass on downgrounds and even one meme you been while same person who jokes and upgrade verse low 1a and get accepted.. then not month later nuke shit into blackhole making it low 1c which iroinc another did something very put that shit low 1c but that denied faster my father went get the milk and its instant since i was born i never seen him so lol ******* hell pretty instant just go back to high 1c later and not only just you bunch dowground it back and forth joke was hoyverse only verse more downgrounded and upgraded as so far as i seen about any other verse.. dont think marvel dc had many and we know how long shit been going on. so again i wont be suprise if hoyoverse get downgrounded planet level you mighty aeons.. yah planet level... oh honka impact Herrscher of finality yep.. planet level etc and with mods hating this verse how crt they are.. its forever get shit done

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

bro can't read this small post yet bro can read these type of posts https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:t but said is too long damn.. since when did you have short attention span i mean you making long pass on downgrounds and even one meme you been while same person who jokes and upgrade verse low 1a and get accepted.. then not month later nuke shit into blackhole making it low 1c which iroinc another did something very put that shit low 1c but that denied faster my father went get the milk and its instant since i was born i never seen him so lol ******* hell pretty instant just go back to high 1c later and not only just you bunch dowground it back and forth joke was hoyverse only verse more downgrounded and upgraded as so far as i seen about any other verse.. dont think marvel dc had many and we know how long shit been going on. so again i wont be suprise if hoyoverse get downgrounded planet level you mighty aeons.. yah planet level... oh honka impact Herrscher of finality yep.. planet level etc and with mods hating this verse how crt they are.. its forever get shit done

Why are you crashing out here

 

[Addipuss]

Why are you crashing out here

not really crashing out more like pointing out his issue he said it himself Why is bro post so long, I can’t even read that yet he can read posts 2x bigger and funny even making joke how many downground hoyoverse gets and upgrades and crt which never ending so many are active

 

[Mbpoops]

aeons are highkey planet level tho look at oroboros

 

[Addipuss]

aeons are highkey planet level tho look at oroboros

hahaha true that tbh.. i change my mind give klee crt upgrade and put to aeon level and give belle from zzz and have her have mult galaxy level of destruction goes hard also

 

[TheKingStrategist13]

Why is bro post so long, I can’t even read that

I feel like it's less about the length of the post and more that... Respectfully, the poster in question doesn't really make their posts easy to read.

 

[SuperNova55555]

bro can't read this small post yet bro can read these type of posts https://vsbattles.com/threads/upgrading-lord-of-the-mysteries.169107/ but said is too long damn.. since when did you have short attention span i mean you making long pass on downgrounds and even one meme you been while same person who jokes and upgrade verse low 1a and get accepted.. then not month later nuke shit into blackhole making it low 1c which iroinc another did something very put that shit low 1c but that denied faster my father went get the milk and its instant since i was born i never seen him so lol ******* hell pretty instant just go back to high 1c later and not only just you bunch dowground it back and forth joke was hoyverse only verse more downgrounded and upgraded as so far as i seen about any other verse.. dont think marvel dc had many and we know how long shit been going on. so again i wont be suprise if hoyoverse get downgrounded planet level you mighty aeons.. yah planet level... oh honka impact Herrscher of finality yep.. planet level etc and with mods hating this verse how crt they are.. its forever get shit done

I’m trolling, your post’s syntax is just too bad for me to try and decipher.

 

[Addipuss]

I’m trolling, your post’s syntax is just too bad for me to try and decipher.

oh ok.. at that point fair enough i take what i said bad. yes my grammar and spelling is ******* shit... i know.. atleast you could of told me that e.e that fair hope you can forgive me for that. i hope atleast understand
what i said at this one hoyoverse has so many upgrade and downground i wont be shocked if anything to planet level to building level back to 1a just go around again

 

[Addipuss]

I feel like it's less about the length of the post and more that... Respectfully, the poster in question doesn't really make their posts easy to read.

yah he reply and told me no hes fully right my grammar and spelling ******* shit.. i do get its be very hard to read its don't tend write massive long shit..

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

You can read my question instead fr

What was it i am nosey

 

[SuperNova55555]

Bro is so nice, I feel bad now

 

[Addipuss]

Bro is so nice, I feel bad now

nah its true my grammar is bad.. i did not know you were trolling but i thought you meant it and im like bro how... but if i had know and you just told me that can't understand what i said. i would of just dumb it down to what i just edited it earlier in that post but i hope this make more sense. underneath

what i said was hoyoverse has so many upgrade and downgrades that i will not be shocked hoyoverse in general including hsr and honkai impact get downgraded to planet level to building level back then back to 1a just go around again

 

[SuperNova55555]

what i said was hoyoverse has so many upgrade and downground i wont be shocked if anything get downground to planet level to building level back then back to 1a just go around again

Just blame Shaoji writing vro

 

[Addipuss]

Just blame Shaoji writing vro

haha wait a min that good idea but i think blaming the doctor from genshin you know Dottore is better since everyone does blames him for everything so can't i just blame him for my writing but at that point hes better to blame then shaoji so i just blame the damn doctor

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Just blame Shaoji writing vro

How long did it take you to realize that its just Shaoji larping and just gave up trying to make sense of his writing btw

 

[Addipuss]

How long did it take you to realize that its just Shaoji larping and just gave up trying to make sense of his writing btw

not wrong about that... god i forgot that he is the head of the creative writing department so maybe i will just blame him however.. he did make The Last Lesson," "Elysian Realm," and "Everlasting Flames and also did He is the main narrative mind behind the Trailblaze Penacony storyline and the epic conflicts within the planet of Amphoreus so tbh.. maybe give him a break and just blame the doctor for everything wrong with hoyoverse all blame goes to the damn doctor

 

[SuperNova55555]

How long did it take you to realize that its just Shaoji larping and just gave up trying to make sense of his writing btw

Immediately after I started analyzing the text.