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Imo it was very early in the webcomic days, like with Beefcake accidentally killing his own brother and then falling and killing a lot of people, but not much later ONE decided to actually take it seriously and make it a proper story
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Fear and hunger 2 ending be like:
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Okay, I'll prepare to create a temporary discussion thread for anime profiles.
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It started as a gag manga based on one gimmicky joke but evolved because ONE saw potential in it.
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Off of profile pages? Thragg no-diffs. He horrifically blitz's, shatters her barriers with ease and would just tear her skull off in seconds.
Who's taking this?
My actual opinion? I think he has no counter to telekinesis, nor do I see him just overpowering it blatantly, so if Tatsumaki sees him coming and knows what to expect, she can easily immobilize him mid-air and either crush or twist him beyond repair, I think he doesn't have enough physical strength to endure or resist the force of her TK nor the combat speed to go from theoretically being stationary to completely perception blitzing her from any distance (Invincible characters need to accelerate to reach those crazy MFTL+ travel speeds despite what the pages say). Thragg still has higher AP but it means nothing if he can't reach her. It'd be like when Eve froze Conquest in the air except Tatsumaki would do much worse to him.
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Thragg is incomparably stronger than Conquest. But I still agree with you.
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Invincible scaling is weird anyways it doesn't work like Dragon Ball. Like he virtually no-diffed Nolan but he lost to just a small group of regular Viltrumite's and got the shit beaten out of him, plus there's the durability thing.
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According to Darkshine fans, Darkshine is High 3-A and only loses because of lOw KaNfIdEnCe.
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It's just about the Darkshine Vs. FF argument. I mean I've said this many times already but I'll say it again I think it may be silly for FF to be stronger and tougher than Darkshine, but it being weird and kinda dumb doesn't mean it isn't true. Argument from Incredulity.
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It makes sense with in-universe logic though. Flashy Flash started training from much earlier age and had incomparably tougher training regimen. Assuming they have similar limiters, there is no scenario in which Flashy Flash loses to Darkshine. While it wasn't to the manga's extent, his overall superiority was heavily implied in the webcomic as well.
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When?
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Awakened Garou says it would have ended ugly for him if he faced Flashy Flash any earlier. He and Tatsumaki are also the only two heroes who are specifically sent away on a made-up mission to distract them.
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I agree but the narrative portrayal of Darkshine sets him up as the physically most powerful S-Class Hero besides Blast (in terms of raw strength and durability), so Flashy Flash being able to like, slap his face off is so silly to me.
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So-so, Flashy Flash still has to his credit the fact he was taken out twice from the story (and paired with Saitama no less during the MA arc) so the argument to say he is meant to be even stronger than Darkshine in the webcomic as well remains...
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Dbz makes fun of poor people confirmed.
I'd say it's different aspects of physicality. DS' attacks are more destructive and bullets bounce off his skin, but Flashy Flash's strikes are more lethal (like Garou saying they'd have killed him in his previous forms) and he's vulnerable to certain things.
Darkshine fans will say that Platinum Sperm is weaker than Golden. That was genuinely a thing for quite a while.
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Fr, what Goku did to Uub was unforgivable.
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It keeps happening, it's so ******* funny lmfao
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To this day, Darkshine fans still believe that he was stronger than Spiral Garou... and yes, they really did think that PS is weaker than GS. Their logic was that PS sacrificed his physical strength for speed. People are mind bogglingly stupid sometimes.
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So... Why do we have Sage Centipede along with the other Dragon-level disaster tiers on the verse page? Like, shouldn't it be unknown?
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Agreed. We should make a section for unknown.
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There is, it's just mistakenly put there by someone.
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I noticed quite a few OPM characters are scaled based on the logic of "Character A believed that Character B can beat Character C despite..."
IMO this reasoning should be scrapped. There are cases where a character is just overconfident in their ability or someone else's abilities. People can get confused or miscalculate an opponent's power level for a multitude of reasons.
IMO this reasoning should be scrapped. There are cases where a character is just overconfident in their ability or someone else's abilities. People can get confused or miscalculate an opponent's power level for a multitude of reasons.
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I partially agree with you. It is true that confidence scaling does not inherently mean anything, but there are cases where it does, like if a character says that character A can beat character B, yet they believe they could beat character A then they should be scaled to the power of character B (as long as they know how strong B is).
For example, Gouketsu scaling to Darkshine because, even if he saw his full power and knew Saitama is stronger thought the entire S Class was needed to defeat him is iffy, but understable in a certain way. Genos has shown the ability to analyze strength, as shown in the VGS Audiobook where he could collect data from everyone he fought and it to be considerably reliable. You could, maybe, apply this also to how he saw Tatsumaki reflecting the bombardement. Though for Gouketsu it is entirely unnecessary, you could take off all his scaling and He'd be still the tier he is given he scales to his own feat.
Psykorochi scaling to Orochi also falls under this. If Orochi failed to defeat Saitama with his strongest move yet thinks Psykorochi can do the work, that certainly shows Psykorochi is indeed more powerful than his Gaia Cannon.
HE and Black Sperm scaling to Gyoro Gyoro because Psykos herself thought they could beat Tatsumaki, who defeated her is also a reasonable.
One I find invalid, though, is Boros scaling to Gouketsu: the Saitama who said Boros was 'strong' is weak compared to the one who fought Gouketsu, to the point the Saitama who fought Gouketsu could one punch Boros' fight Saitama and did not found him anything remarkable. So, of course Gouketsu, who is far below said Saitama, wouldn't be called strong regardless how strong he is. And, well, for that very same reason I disagree to scale Boros to any other monster that happened before him just because Saitama didn't say they were strong.
For example, Gouketsu scaling to Darkshine because, even if he saw his full power and knew Saitama is stronger thought the entire S Class was needed to defeat him is iffy, but understable in a certain way. Genos has shown the ability to analyze strength, as shown in the VGS Audiobook where he could collect data from everyone he fought and it to be considerably reliable. You could, maybe, apply this also to how he saw Tatsumaki reflecting the bombardement. Though for Gouketsu it is entirely unnecessary, you could take off all his scaling and He'd be still the tier he is given he scales to his own feat.
Psykorochi scaling to Orochi also falls under this. If Orochi failed to defeat Saitama with his strongest move yet thinks Psykorochi can do the work, that certainly shows Psykorochi is indeed more powerful than his Gaia Cannon.
HE and Black Sperm scaling to Gyoro Gyoro because Psykos herself thought they could beat Tatsumaki, who defeated her is also a reasonable.
One I find invalid, though, is Boros scaling to Gouketsu: the Saitama who said Boros was 'strong' is weak compared to the one who fought Gouketsu, to the point the Saitama who fought Gouketsu could one punch Boros' fight Saitama and did not found him anything remarkable. So, of course Gouketsu, who is far below said Saitama, wouldn't be called strong regardless how strong he is. And, well, for that very same reason I disagree to scale Boros to any other monster that happened before him just because Saitama didn't say they were strong.
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That's not the full reasoning.
It's stated that Saitama has fought against enemies at monster association cadre level many times. Yet, Boros is called strong and likely the strongest opponent ever up to that day.
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I can agree to that, but the AP section of his profile doesn't include that, just "Saitama said Boros was strong but he didn't say Gouketsu was because it took one punch to defeat Gouketsu".
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What about "Geryuganshoop believed he and Melzargard together could stop Saitama after witnessing how he easily defeated Groribas."
I mean... okay but that just means Geryuganshoop thinks he and the Mel together are stronger than Groribas. Not to mention that he was probably just being overconfident in his abilities.
I mean... okay but that just means Geryuganshoop thinks he and the Mel together are stronger than Groribas. Not to mention that he was probably just being overconfident in his abilities.
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You mean Geryuganshoop rather than Melzargard right?
Also, that statement doesn't appear to add anything to his profile, so it is actually meaningless regardless ig.
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Yep, my bad.
And yeah I wouldn't be opposed to just removing that statement.
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I just realized, in the anime metal knight reacted to Orochi’s tendril attack. It was just too powerful to tank.
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Gonna leave this here.
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Damn, no Gaia Cannon in the anime
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I love how over the holidays we had an extremely detailled conversation on how various characters smell.
Top 20 OPM character stench (sorry, I mean "aura") tierlist when?
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It's discrimination against one-eyed entities. Cyclopean racism. Anti-monocular prejudice. In part 2 they'll probably give Manako a cutesy version of Boros's theme for the same reason.
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This is fake
Darkshine fans will say this is fake
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