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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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EnderLord8
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For anime profiles we need:
- Statements, some are unique to the anime
- Calculate feats, some feats are different in the anime, so calculating them is worthwhile
- Discuss the scale, there are some scaling differences in the anime as well
- Create a new page for the anime verse or perhaps a different section for the verse we currently have
Regarding the priority profiles we should create... We have Saitama, Genos, Garou, Tatsumaki, Boros, Silver Fang, Atomic Samurai, Metal Bat, Tanktop Master, Iaian, Fubuki, Carnage Kabuto, Sonic, Geryuganshoop, Melzargard, Meteor, Gouketsu, Elder Centipede, Beefcake, Awakening Cockroach, Mosquito Girl, Deep Sea King, Suiryo, Hammerhead, Lord Boros Spaceship, as these are the backbone of the scale, some more than others.
- Statements, some are unique to the anime
- Calculate feats, some feats are different in the anime, so calculating them is worthwhile
- Discuss the scale, there are some scaling differences in the anime as well
- Create a new page for the anime verse or perhaps a different section for the verse we currently have
Regarding the priority profiles we should create... We have Saitama, Genos, Garou, Tatsumaki, Boros, Silver Fang, Atomic Samurai, Metal Bat, Tanktop Master, Iaian, Fubuki, Carnage Kabuto, Sonic, Geryuganshoop, Melzargard, Meteor, Gouketsu, Elder Centipede, Beefcake, Awakening Cockroach, Mosquito Girl, Deep Sea King, Suiryo, Hammerhead, Lord Boros Spaceship, as these are the backbone of the scale, some more than others.
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Thank god this garbage season is over finally. The last episode was def one of the better ones to be fair but still mediocre. Saitama Vs. Orochi was well drawn in some parts but it still occasionally felt super slow and very clunky, and they once again tried combining post and pre-redraw material in a way that feels off pace and random, but I guess it's not as bad as with Phoenix Man.
Gyoro Gyoro Vs. Tatsumaki also wasn't...terrible? But it could've been better. Why the hell did they use Boros' theme for Gyoro Gyoro though.
I'm not gonna give a long review because it doesn't deserve it. Overall 3/10 season. Far from the worst anime I've seen but god damn it's probably bottom 10. Now I can go back to focusing on manga and webcomic specifically until 2027 where it's probably gonna get even worse.
Gyoro Gyoro Vs. Tatsumaki also wasn't...terrible? But it could've been better. Why the hell did they use Boros' theme for Gyoro Gyoro though.
I'm not gonna give a long review because it doesn't deserve it. Overall 3/10 season. Far from the worst anime I've seen but god damn it's probably bottom 10. Now I can go back to focusing on manga and webcomic specifically until 2027 where it's probably gonna get even worse.
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Honestly, this will probably get this thread more active because imagine all the new matchups that will come.
One of the monsters reacted to lightning and the a class did so we got solid speed to work with too.
EnderLord8
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This is true...
To make a rough draft of the scale it would be something like this:
- Saitama is 5-B because of the Boros fight.
- Genos from season 1 should possibly be 7-A for withstanding the shockwave from Saitama's punch that destroyed the mountain.
- Tatsumaki might be 6-C to 6-B because of the meteor feat and the bombing of City A.
- Boros's CRSC should be 5-B, physically with his armor he should be at least 7-A, possibly reaching High 6-A, with Unreleased and MB being 6-B to High 6-A physically.
- If Genos doesn't scale to 7-A, most of the cast would be a tier 7 lower than that, but it depends on what we have here.
- The Meteor, Gouketsu, and Lord Boros's ship should be some degree of tier 6.
- If Beefcake happens to reach tier 6 through his feats, then a good portion of the cast would scale to him...
EnderLord8
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Here are some anime-specific calculations I found:
1-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Nullflowerblush/Some_One_Punch_Man_Anime_Feats
2-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog
arthSpiderr/One-Punch_Man_%E2%80%93_Hydrated_DSK_moves_among_the_slowed-down_raindrops
3-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One-Punch_Man:_Metal_Knight
4-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Vzearr/Saitama_Destroys_A_Mountain
1-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Nullflowerblush/Some_One_Punch_Man_Anime_Feats
2-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog
arthSpiderr/One-Punch_Man_%E2%80%93_Hydrated_DSK_moves_among_the_slowed-down_raindrops3-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One-Punch_Man:_Metal_Knight
4-https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Vzearr/Saitama_Destroys_A_Mountain
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Hmm, there are two anime canon monsters.
Pluton, who appears and instantly destroys a part of City-Y, and the ancient king who was killed by Tatsumaki's meteor.
Do we have calcs for those? since i believe we can add these to the manga.
Both are characters added by One and Murata, and the ancient king actually appears in one panel while explaining Tatsumaki. At the very least, we should be able to add Ancient King to manga's scaling (he waited until deep sea king and the first king whose name i apparently forgot, they both scale to him. Not sure if he has something good that can be added though :d)
Pluton, who appears and instantly destroys a part of City-Y, and the ancient king who was killed by Tatsumaki's meteor.
Do we have calcs for those? since i believe we can add these to the manga.
Both are characters added by One and Murata, and the ancient king actually appears in one panel while explaining Tatsumaki. At the very least, we should be able to add Ancient King to manga's scaling (he waited until deep sea king and the first king whose name i apparently forgot, they both scale to him. Not sure if he has something good that can be added though :d)
EnderLord8
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I think the only thing they would do is upscale Boros, Tatsumaki, and maybe Carnage Kabuto, depending on how we interpret the statements.
On another note, Geryuganshoop's gravity feat is around Class P, considering other similar feats.
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Why? Deep sea king scales to Ancient King. (It wouldn't upscale any of them based on "meteor" as that's wrong. Only the destruction would be count.
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Are we supposed to be happy that JC Staff is going to ruin the Saitama vs Garou fight too?Hmmmm
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Yeah so much fun, plus we got the compus for additional scaling and mftl flashy flash
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simply a part
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But why don't they just say season 3 part 2? Also, wouldn't it just be season 4 at that point? Not that any of this matters, just curious.
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As far as I know, an anime season is divided into several parts, and if there isn't much time between them, it's called a "cour," but if the time between these parts is long enough, it's called a "part" or "season."
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Now isn't the time for Murata to be beefing with ONE lmao.
Ralp0054
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It's possible that everything has come to this point because of this dispute. We don't know how One reacted to Murata repeatedly adding his own interpretation to the story. Murata made numerous attempts to steer the story in a more cosmic direction, which led to changes in the fight between Garou and Saitama and the ninja arc being redrawn three times. The third version of the ninja arc ultimately leaned more towards to webcomic, which shows that One wasn't satisfied with the previous versions, and so on. I think we are suffering the consequences of these disagreements. Therefore, they will adapt the webcomic fight in the next cour.
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I do like Cosmic Garou (my profile pic is literally him) but I truly wish the MA arc in the manga was exactly the same as the webcomic version. It was perfect.
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Exactly, but it's clear they'll only be adapting specific parts from the webcomic, not completely abandoning the manga.
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The quality of the anime aside which I am pretty sure will be far better in the next cour. I am interested in what you guys think should be animated ?
OPM's manga at start was supposed to be a remaster for drawing quality with a few new things added but in MA arc it increasingly became more of it's own thing and then that continued in the Ninja arc until the redraws fell apart.
Let's be honest here, Cosmic Garou is a writing atrocity, it's bad plain and simple. Not only does the story kick Saitama's character into a immense personality change suddenly by killing Genos and giving him a fight and making him feel strong emotions but Garou's argument isn't broken, it's just that he gets punched in the face and loses. Not to mention the horrible time travel bs.
The Webcomic is perfect. It treats Garou for what he actually is. A stupid brat who got bullied and is now lashing out at the world while playing a make believe monster.
If what's canon to the manga gets animated then sure you get your big shonen fight. But in front of the world, One punch man loses it's identity and becomes just another powerscaling Shonen.
A story that has nothing to do with its original source material. Basically a Netflix adaption of a book.
OPM's manga at start was supposed to be a remaster for drawing quality with a few new things added but in MA arc it increasingly became more of it's own thing and then that continued in the Ninja arc until the redraws fell apart.
Let's be honest here, Cosmic Garou is a writing atrocity, it's bad plain and simple. Not only does the story kick Saitama's character into a immense personality change suddenly by killing Genos and giving him a fight and making him feel strong emotions but Garou's argument isn't broken, it's just that he gets punched in the face and loses. Not to mention the horrible time travel bs.
The Webcomic is perfect. It treats Garou for what he actually is. A stupid brat who got bullied and is now lashing out at the world while playing a make believe monster.
If what's canon to the manga gets animated then sure you get your big shonen fight. But in front of the world, One punch man loses it's identity and becomes just another powerscaling Shonen.
A story that has nothing to do with its original source material. Basically a Netflix adaption of a book.
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We wouldn’t be getting this many redraws if ONE actually bothered to send the full storyboard instead of relying on Murata to fill in the gaps
Case in point: he sent Murata a storyboard where Genos only gets cut in half in the Elder Centipede fight and nothing else.
Recon1511
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This mindless conjecture falls apart when we know it was ONE that went back and changed the table talk for Cosmic Garou lol
Recon1511
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Clueless "fan" fails to realize OPM is a straightforward battle manga #782743868
Regardless, the actual issue here rather than Saitama vs Garou (I don't like Cosmic) is everything else getting cut down to facilitate a 12 episode part 2 which heavily damages the writing and development of most of the side cast to the detriment of both the manga and wc storyline.
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So we got Pre-Redraw Orochi.
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Murata has such a magical voice
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Please don't remind me or I'd feel like swearing at every saint on the calendar.
Ralp0054
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"Mindless", "Clueless" Did I catch you in a phase of aggression? And is Cosmic a** fight my only problem?
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The explanation is literally on Gouketsu's profile.
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Genos witnessing characters far stronger than him battle shouldn't be used to scale imo. Darkshine and Gouketsu are so far above G4 Genos that his assessment of their power levels are irrelevant.
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Even if you ignore that, his own feat on his profile that leads the justification part is higher than anything Darkshine has ever performed so it adds up with Genos' assessment.
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This is one of those cases where it's pretty obvious that Darkshine is stronger than Gouketsu based on the narrative, but we can't prove it because he technically doesn't have any feats that calc above Gouketsu's feats. IMO if Darkshine is a 100, Gouketsu is around 85.
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