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Of course take your time, and thanks a lot for the effort
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League of Legends Tier 8/7 Revision
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Is there a list of what has been calced already?
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The OP of this thread has most of the stuff in it, all that was discussed at least, and more or less all calcs iirc
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1) Malphite Low 7-C (Outdated)
2) Illaoi storm creation feat (Lowe 7-B Calc) (Considered Environmental Destruction)
3) Kenen can create lightning (8-C but its canon status was found questionable)
4) Amumu cloud destruction feat (Outdated)
5) K'sante feat 7-A (They say there are areas in the calculation that should be explained but haven't been. The good thing is that there was no objection to this feat being at or around 7-A.)
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And while I'm at it, let me ask. What do you think about Hax? Aurelion SoL for 4th Wall Break and EE.
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Alright busy week sooo sorry on taking a lot of time but finally got along to the Ruination profiles that wont get affected by the tier 7 and similar changes and got them in a sandbox. (All except Gwen since she doesnt have a profile so i will be creating one next time i have time.)
Either way, everyone fine with the changes?
Either way, everyone fine with the changes?
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Good. But there's something I don't understand. Why do Dragonslayer Vayne and Project Vayne scale to Sentinel Vayne?
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Honestly ive considered removing skin scaling for "random featless skins". Imo i would actually remove both of the skin tiers until we get something concrete for them to scale to.
Them ranking to it is just well, cause i had to change them to something, but imo, we should just remove skin scaling for skinlines where there isnt anything around for them, on Vayne and otherwise
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Alright, fixed up any typos i noticed and also changed the featless skinlines to Unknown (Because its easier to just slap a rating when we come back to them that way).
All of you then agree with the changes in sandbox so we can get some stuff moving again? @Ozcantabak @Apollonir.Scale @WeeklyBattles (Mb for asking again ofc, just wanna make sure everyone on same board before i change anything)
All of you then agree with the changes in sandbox so we can get some stuff moving again? @Ozcantabak @Apollonir.Scale @WeeklyBattles (Mb for asking again ofc, just wanna make sure everyone on same board before i change anything)
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Sorry i havent had a chance to go through things yet, been dealing with some problems irl, will get to it as soon as i can
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Thank for your work, im fine with this. But one thing i want to ask shouldn't ascended tier have class t lifting strenght since we agreed they are above Freljordian demi-gods ?
Also diana has 2 Summary parts.
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No worries take your time.
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No problem at all but that is a good question, considering practically every ascended aspect is a definite level (and anyone that ranks to them) above them i guess that would be fine yea?
Personally i agree with it, so i guess we wait for opinions on that too.
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Whelp been two weeks and since nobody seems to disagree, i will look to apply the changes to the Panth, Diana, Vayne and Senna profiles from my sandbox.
Also since we are changing the entire lifting strength thing (4-B Ascended level scaling above demigods), it would apply to ones mentioned above and anyone else scaling to same/similar point, which would out of current unmentioned profiles would be, Aatrox, Leona, Morgana, Kayle, Nasus, Renekton, Xerath, Viego, and then arguably Azir and Taric but im more iffy on them since they dont have direct scaling to 4-B through some method
(Also all the other ruination champions that will get changed to 4-B, but we should handle their bases first)
Also since we are changing the entire lifting strength thing (4-B Ascended level scaling above demigods), it would apply to ones mentioned above and anyone else scaling to same/similar point, which would out of current unmentioned profiles would be, Aatrox, Leona, Morgana, Kayle, Nasus, Renekton, Xerath, Viego, and then arguably Azir and Taric but im more iffy on them since they dont have direct scaling to 4-B through some method
(Also all the other ruination champions that will get changed to 4-B, but we should handle their bases first)
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bump
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Well, to keep some form of discussion going i suppose. What do we plan to do with technically featless Ascended/Aspects? Like Azir, Varus, Taric, or even just "nameless ascended" to whom someone like Jax and whatnot would scale?
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Not much at the moment
Sorry I havent been able to work on this much, i keep getting sidetracked
As a plus though, they finally got around to updating the Arcane champs' lores, so we can officially merge the profiles
Sorry I havent been able to work on this much, i keep getting sidetracked
As a plus though, they finally got around to updating the Arcane champs' lores, so we can officially merge the profiles
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League of Legends Problem
Everything about League of Legends on this wiki is contradictory and VERY CONFUSED. All Tiers are confusing, illogical, and filled with fabricated information. Especially COSTUME UNIVERSES For example God King Garen is 3-B because he can be compared to God Fist Lee Sin BUT these two skins...
I think this thread is important for your this thread, so I felt the need to post it in here too
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No worries, take your time but just not too much more alright.
I dont think we can merge the profiles, considering yea sure some lores got rewritten but that is because their old lores quite legitimately cannot work with Arcane lore, i mean Viktor and Jayce are either dead or somewhere in space, hextech supposedly doesnt exist anymore, Jinx is dead or gone, and piltover and zaun are legitimately united. We should just nuke the old ones and update Arcane ones with any rewrites, and stuff from season 2 imo.
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According to the statements, Arcane's new canonization hasn't currently reset any unaffected areas of the old lore.
Pre-2023 lore and post-2023 lore have been merged, and they are being slowly rewritten. We can apply Piltover-Zaun to profiles according to the New Canon, but leaving the other regions in the pre-2023 lore can wait until they are rewritten.
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Yes, stuff other than piltover/zaun will just be ignored since obviously its a WIP for Riot. But specifically Piltover/Zaun profiles wise, those that appear in Arcane should just have their arcane versions.
Those that dont should just go to Unknown and maybe have some specific note at the bottom of the profiles about their stories technically being outdated
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NGL, at this point we may be better off doing what DC does with universe retcons, making separate profiles for Runeterra Prime, Pre-Arcane, and Post Arcane
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I think that would really not be the best considering stuff is simply not canon anymore, us making it a different universe is essentially just putting headcanon onto the profiles.
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They didnt say previous one is non-canon
They said the current one is new canon
So Pre-Arcane and Post-Arcane seems fine
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No i mean literally making new profiles for them
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Again, it just doesnt exist, it is not canon or existant in league of legends. They are as canon to league as is Ryze going to Magi's Academy for Unpleasant Boys.
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Its a retcon, by nature of this being the new canon, and not a separate canon anymore, the old canon is retconned out, if it was still a separate canon they would just keep them separate as they were.
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The stuff for DC was retconned and we still allow it
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That should be taken up with the wiki and i am not familiar with the specifics since i dont know DC.
What i do know is that the old piltover/zaun lore simply is not a thing anymore.
