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[Tural2004]

Idk.

If we went by this image as his truest incarnation then we can correlate that all these little white dots are the bubbles we see in the Void chapters. The absence of the usual shapes could be supporting evidence of this too. However, what I find most interesting and only just noticed is how he looks semi-transparent all over? I could be looking into it too deep, but they do look similar. Early hyperspace reveal?

I am pretty sure this is just a location in the real world. God's appearance to Psykos was in the Pillars of Creation. One of the patterns on Cosmic Garou was Horsehead Nebula. We also can't really call this his truest body since we also see his corpse on the backside of the Moon. He probably has some kind of omnipresence since he is associated with multiple celestial bodies and the universe itself. He is also, you know, outside of causality.

 

[RinneItachi]

Yeah last chapter felt like it was missing like 5 pages.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

I am pretty sure this is just a location in the real world. God's appearance to Psykos was in the Pillars of Creation. One of the patterns on Cosmic Garou was Horsehead Nebula. We also can't really call this his truest body since we also see his corpse on the backside of the Moon. He probably has some kind of omnipresence since he is associated with multiple celestial bodies and the universe itself. He is also, you know, outside of causality.

You see the reason I find this less plausible is because he reveals himself to each person differently and uses mirages to manipulate people psychologically. Every other instance we've seen of him weren't really him. Plus it's been said that he's trapped in some dimension that only Void has access to. Which would point to that image depicting said dimension.

Like in other words, they could only see what he made them see.

As for the moon, we don't really know what it is. It's silly to assume that he would be the size of the moon, when his dimension is said to be higher, and we already seen him looking bigger. So I don't think that fits either.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

The more likely explanation for the moon would be that it acts as some kind of a conduit. Like the temples that speak of his return.

 

[darkphantom9805]

You see the reason I find this less plausible is because he reveals himself to each person differently and uses mirages to manipulate people psychologically. Every other instance we've seen of him weren't really him. Plus it's been said that he's trapped in some dimension that only Void has access to. Which would point to that image depicting said dimension.

that was pre redraw current GoD we know nothing about if he’s trapped it might be a case of he can’t enter a normal dimension due to being a higher entity or no

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

that was pre redraw current GoD we know nothing about if he’s trapped it might be a case of he can’t enter a normal dimension due to being a higher entity or no

I'm referring to the dimensional seal, not the celestial cave which is still post-redraw. It is the seal that keeps him trapped elsewhere. Wherever that is.

It is because of the seal weakening that he was able to pass through and spread his influence more and more over time.

 

[darkphantom9805]

I'm referring to the dimensional seal, not the celestial cave which is still post-redraw. It is the seal that keeps him trapped elsewhere. Wherever that is.

he’s not trapped by blast or anyone because we’ve seen him when he first meets blast he can enter their dimension but only via avatars this means we can conclude GoD just can’t be in there dimension due to being a higher dimensional being

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

he’s not trapped by blast or anyone because we’ve seen him when he first meets blast he can enter their dimension but only via avatars this means we can include GoD just can’t be in there dimension due to being a higher dimensional being

Maybe using "trapped" wasn't the best word to describe the situation, but he is "sealed" and kept at bay by Blast and his crew. This is IN the chapters. This is canon.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

I never said he couldn't interact with the universe from the place he is sealed in. The whole point of those holes and the weakening of the seal is why he's even manifesting inside of it. Also what you're describing is him meeting another one of his mirages. It's the only reason he's even alive.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Maybe using "trapped" wasn't the best word to describe the situation, but he is "sealed" and kept at bay by Blast and his crew. This is IN the chapters. This is canon.

That doesn’t at all include he is trapped or sealed it means at best if not ret con is preventing god from sending his own avatars or appearing like he did when he first meets blast to that specific dimension not his actual real form

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

That doesn’t at all include he is trapped it means at best the seal if not ret con is preventing god from sending his own avatars or appearing like he did when he first meets blast to that specific dimension not his actual real form

Except he already appeared like that to Homeless Emperor, Garou and Psykos, which were all lesser manifestations. The seal is there to prevent his real self from entering.

The comment about avatars makes no sense btw. Avatars don't originate from his dimension, they become that after being exposed to the cubes and God's mirages. This would only make sense if you're talking about a multiversal invasion. In any case, there's nothing substantive here.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Except he already appeared like that to Homeless Emperor, Garou and Psykos, which were all lesser manifestations. The seal is there to prevent his real self from entering.

No he didn’t those appearances don’t seem to be physical but rather illusions not manifesting himself into an actual physical avatar his real self can’t enter and that doesn’t make him trapped and he isn’t kept at bay by blast and them blast didn’t even know who GOD was until he appeared to him not in his real form yet again blast has never once said GOD is actually trapped or sealed he said he resides which is different

The comment about avatars makes no sense btw. Avatars don't originate from his dimension, they become that after being exposed to the cubes and God's mirages. This would only make sense if you're talking about a multiversal invasion.

Yes it does? If god can make his own avatars marvel does it all the time for abstracts etc lower selves that aren’t the actual real body I’m not talking about GOD giving power that’s not an avatar do you even know what an avatar is ? the people he gives power to become influenced by his power but they don’t become a manifestation of GOD himself lol

multiverse invasion lol now your just saying nonsense

 

[Bernkastelll]

Yes it does? If god can make his own avatars marvel does it all the time for abstracts etc lower selves that aren’t the actual real body I’m not talking about GOD giving power that’s not an avatar do you even know what an avatar is ?

multiverse invasion lol now your just saying nonsense

Marvel isn't OPM, God's avatars arent like Marvel avatars, God's avatars are just people he gave power.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

No he didn’t those appearances don’t seem to be physical but rather illusions not manifesting himself into an actual physical avatar his real self can’t enter and that doesn’t make him trapped and he isn’t kept at bay by blast and them blast didn’t even know who GOD was until he appeared to him not in his real form yet again blast has never once said GOD is actually trapped or sealed he said he resides which is different


Yes it does? If god can make his own avatars marvel does it all the time for abstracts etc lower selves that aren’t the actual real body I’m not talking about GOD giving power that’s not an avatar do you even know what an avatar is ?

multiverse invasion lol now your just saying nonsense

- The first part of what you're saying is arguing semantics.

- The second part of what you're saying is headcanon at it's finest.

- The third... is me talking about the possibility of God guiding avatars from more than one universe to concentrate where Saitama/Blast are located. Hence "multiversal invasion".

Give it a rest.

 

[Redcated]

Maybe using "trapped" wasn't the best word to describe the situation, but he is "sealed" and kept at bay by Blast and his crew. This is IN the chapters. This is canon.

I think this kind of sealing is what darkphantom talking about

 

[darkphantom9805]

- The first part of what you're saying is arguing semantics.

- The second part of what you're saying is headcanon at it's finest.

- The third... is me talking about the possibility of God guiding avatars from more than one universe to concentrate where Saitama/Blast are located. Hence "multiversal invasion".

Give it a rest.

wrong

Wrong

Wrong

And no multiverse invasion your just talking nonsense

 

[darkphantom9805]

Marvel isn't OPM, God's avatars arent like Marvel avatars, God's avatars are just people he gave power.

Those aren’t avatars do you know what an avatar is? An avatar would be like a 2nd body GoD giving his power to someone doesn’t make them a manifestation of his real form or a 2nd form for god that’s just someone with the power of GOD they are still them not an avatar

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

I think this kind of sealing is what darkphantom talking about

Yeah using the word "trapped" was the wrong call. I already conceded on that part.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Those aren’t avatars do you know what an avatar is? An avatar would be like a 2nd body GoD giving his power to someone doesn’t make them a manifestation of his real form or a 2nd form for god that’s just someone with the power of GOD they are still them not an avatar

Only Void was shown to have the ability to access the higher dimension using highly specific hand signs. Why are you so adamant about this point? Do you really think all avatars are granted access to hyperspace? And if so why didn't Garou use it? Wasn't he an avatar too?

It's more headcanon than my multiversal invasion hypothetical.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Only Void was shown to have the ability to access the higher dimension using highly specific hand signs. Why are you so adamant about this point? Do you really think all avatars are granted access to hyperspace? And if so why didn't Garou use it? Wasn't he an avatar too?

and? all avatars are granted access how many times do I have to say this garou is not an avatar garou is garou with GOD power and avatar would be like if GOD had a 2nd body down there him giving his power to someone doesn’t make them his avatar they are still them there’s a reason his minions despite having his power still think and remember who they are dirty stain knew who void was etc because they aren’t his avatar but just a minion of GoD that becomes influenced under his power and received some power

Also all avatars having voids abilities I don’t even think you understand what your talking about lol

 

[darkphantom9805]

Why isn’t GoD will to have someone break the seal if he was trapped instead it’s either to kill the fist that turned against GoD or destroy humanity

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

and? all avatars are granted access how many times do I have to say this garou is not an avatar garou is garou with GOD power and avatar would be like if GOD had a 2nd body down there him giving his power to someone doesn’t make them his avatar they are still the, there’s a reason his minions despite having his power still think and remember who they are dirty stain knew who void was etc because they aren’t his avatar but just a minion of GoD that becomes influenced under his power

Also all avatars having voids abilities I don’t even think you understand what your talking about lol

Where are you getting this information from? Pls show me the chapter where we learn about the existences of these avatars and how they work.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Why isn’t GoD will to have someone break the seal if he was trapped instead it’s either to kill the fist that turned against GoD or destroy humanity

Dude I already said that using the word "trapped" was the wrong move. He's just sealed away.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Where are you getting this information from? Pls show me the chapter where we learn about the existences of these avatars and how they work.

Where are you getting yours oh wait your assuming now everything works it’s never once mentioned his real body is trying to get it or no and not and just him being able to send an avatar in

 

[darkphantom9805]

Dude I already said that using the word "trapped" was the wrong move. He's just sealed away.

in fact the entire sealed thing doesn’t even makes sense seems like a ret con why wouldn’t GOD will be to have his real body free if he was so eager to enter that dimension why wouldn’t he have his subjects be doing just that cause garou apparently proved it was very easy that even monster garou could instead his will have them end humanity preserving the planet

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Where are you getting yours oh wait your assuming now everything works it’s never once mentioned his real body is trying to get it or no and not and just him being able to send an avatar in

I'm interpreting what I am seeing in the pages. It's not gospel.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

in fact the entire sealed thing doesn’t even makes sense seems like a ret con why wouldn’t GOD will be to have his real body free if he was so eager to enter that dimension why wouldn’t he have his subjects be doing just that cause garou apparently proved it was very easy that even monster garou could instead his will have them end humanity preserving the planet

LMAO

 

[darkphantom9805]

I'm interpreting what I am seeing in the pages. It's not gospel.

your assuming did blast say the seal is breaking his real body is trying to come in ? No he didn’t so why assume when that’s not even his goal to break the seal or his will which you still haven’t answered

Why is his will the complete opposite of what your claiming he’s trying to do

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

your assuming did blast say the seal is breaking his real body is trying to come in ? No he didn’t so why assume when that’s not even his goal to break the seal or his will which you still haven’t answered

Why is his will the complete opposite of what your claiming he’s trying to do

Because it's the only thing that makes sense narratively to me. We're told an apocalypse is coming and said apocalypse will surely be the day the real God comes through and no longer has to rely on avatars and tricks. The day on which he will cause a cataclysm and force Saitama to step in. That's what I been trying to communicate.

This is my interpretation of what is going on. You just got annoyed at the mere idea that he's sealed. Which he is, whether you like it or not it's in the manga.

 

[Kin201]

Currently there's little to no information about the dimensional seal that keeps God at bay so the interpretation is entirely up to you.

Also, was Garou not explicitly stated to be an avatar of God? I'm sure people given powers by God are called his avatars or minions.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Currently there's little to no information about the dimensional seal that keeps God at bay so the interpretation is entirely up to you.

Also, was Garou not explicitly stated to be an avatar of God? I'm sure people given powers by God are called his avatars or minions.

Not that kind of avatar they are representing the power of god as they now have some but they aren’t like an avatar of god himself that would be if god had a 2nd lower body that he sends down to those dimensions why his real one resides somewhere else the people he gives powers to aren’t real avatars but just minions they still think know who they are etc they are just heavily influenced by his will which is different from an avatar of god himself or a 2nd body he controls

 

[darkphantom9805]

Because it's the only thing that makes sense narratively to me. We're told an apocalypse is coming and said apocalypse will surely be the day the real God comes through and no longer has to rely on avatars and tricks. The day on which he will cause a cataclysm and force Saitama to step in. That's what I been trying to communicate.

This is my interpretation of what is going on. You just got annoyed at the mere idea that he's sealed. Which he is, whether you like it or not it's in the manga.

still waiting for you to answer that interpretation or no why is his will the complete opposite of what your suggesting

 

[Kin201]

Not that kind of avatar they are representing the power of god but they aren’t like an avatar of god himself that would be if god had a 2nd lower body that he sends down to those dimensions why his real one resides somewhere else the people he gives powers to aren’t real avatars but just minions they still think know who they are etc they are just heavily influenced by his will which is different from an avatar of god himself

Yeah, and God kinda sucks as we don't know if he can send avatars that way.

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Currently there's little to no information about the dimensional seal that keeps God at bay so the interpretation is entirely up to you.

Also, was Garou not explicitly stated to be an avatar of God? I'm sure people given powers by God are called his avatars or minions.

I know what he's doing now and it's muddying the waters. He's calling God's manifestations avatars. And it threw me in for a loop when we already called the people that are granted god's power that.

I ran out of patience. The burden of proof is on him, he's not reasonable enough for me to continue responding to.

 

[darkphantom9805]

Yeah, and God kinda sucks as we don't know if he can send avatars that way.

it’s crazy how despite being in an arc about characters who want to kill GoD who are heavily involved with him we know next to nothing ONE is being very dodgy on the god lore they keep involving him but not explaining anything about him that people want to know

 

[Redcated]

it’s crazy how despite being in an arc about characters who want to kill GoD who are heavily involved with him we know next to nothing ONE is being very dodgy on the god lore they keep involving him but not explaining anything about him that people want to know

Considering ONE forget he exist in the wc I'm not surprise

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

I think this kind of sealing is what darkphantom talking about

I hope you all realize this is still unconfirmed. I made a post that acknowledges it as a possibility, but also that God could be in a different place altogether that's outside of hyperspace. It feels stupid trying to argue in favor or against this stuff without the proper contexts. Darkphantom spent a whole page arguing with me on one of these possibilities over me posting actual evidence that confirms the existence of a seal or at the VERY LEAST something that restricts God from doing as he pleases. And you know very well that if the alternative were confirmed as true, he'd be 100% considered trapped.

Then again, Darkphantom couldn't even tell I was talking about a hypothetical with regards to the multiversal invasion idea. He thought I was suggesting there is evidence for it and labeled it "nonsense".

 

[darkphantom9805]

Then again, Darkphantom couldn't even tell I was talking about a hypothetical with regards to the multiversal invasion idea. He thought I was suggesting there is evidence for it and labeled it "nonsense".

Still waiting on that answer to the question you keep dodging since you apparently have fingered everything out or no

 

[AmongUsAboveUsBelow]

Still waiting on that answer to the question you keep dodging since you apparently have fingered everything out or no

I never claimed that I did. And it would be nice to know what I'm even dodging tbh. Because I have no idea.

 

[darkphantom9805]

I never claimed that I did. And it would be nice to know what I'm even dodging tbh. Because I have no idea.

The same question I’ve literally asked multiple times lol