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My bad, I forgot we used the Warning Tracker and not the actual thing in Moderator Tools, she did in fact receive a warning for the Deidalius situation, ignore that bit.
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I'm definitely not against what you're saying here, it was primarily the framing of the report as "trying to get her warned/banned" that I was not a fan of.
Also, I'm not opposed to waiting for her vacation to finish before passing whatever verdict is reached. My stance currently remains the same, if this is to be discussed further.
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You're right, I apologize to Ottavio, shouldn't have accused him like that.
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I suppose we can decide after the vacation thing. And I do hope she enjoys that despite what's been going on here.
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Generally, I think the consensus seems to be a warning with the caveat of "If you do it again, you are getting punished harshly no matter what."
I just didn't want to see her get a ban during a vacation and then come back confused and uninformed (I know I would hate that)
Tallying the votes, it seems we have
Fine with a strict warning: Maverick_Zero_X, Mr. Bambu, LordGriffin1000, Antvasima
Fine with a Light Warning: Deagonx
Fine with a ban or strict warning: Theglassman12, CloverDragon03, Planck69
Neutral, leaning towards another chance: DarkDragonMedeus
If I got anything wrong, feel free to correct me, and I'll change the tally, but the consensus seems to be a warning, with basically everyone agree some sort of action should be taken. I think it'd be best to end this off here with a warning (which I could gladly deliver the result to her) and we see what happens after she's back from her vacation and past that.
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I was in favor of a light warning. I think there is reason to think the comment as-written was not rulebreaking. We tend to be much more flexible with what we allow people to say when someone is not being targeted, especially given the title and purpose of the thread.
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Got it, I've changed my message
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I'm fine with a strict warning or a ban
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I'm fine with a warning or a ban. My issue with this is largely how many instances of warning they've had beforehand, even if this one is a relatively minor offense on its own.
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Just a reminder.Yes, a warning seems to be all that is necessary here.
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Added, although I think with this rally it would be safe to say you guys can give her a warning. Obviously I am not staff so I don’t really have much of a day in what happens as the final judgment but I think that’d probably be the best course of action either when she gets back or now.Just a reminder.
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Reporting @DavidTPPM and @ReaperAndBlues for mocking me, disrespect, trying to get the OP to disregard my vote in this thread, and being generally mean-spirited towards others who don't share their opinions. I removed myself from the conversation because I didn't want the match to be derailed or get heckled.
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Okay, so I looked at the whole thing. The main stuff comes on page 2, and this is what I've gathered:
- David's responses weren't the best, but they weren't super egregious either. I'm not sure if even a warning is really warranted here, just a note to keep things more amicable.
- Reaper, on the other hand, is a bit different. Toward the end of the second page, he continuously tries to invalidate Quibster's vote simply because he doesn't personally find her reasons sufficient. I'd endorse a light warning for him, and I've also left a comment on the thread.
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I left him a message on the thread.
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This appears self explanatory. We have made a distinction in the past between criticism for actions or arguments vs attempting to debase people you disagree with by insulting them. It's not serious, but egging on the weird overreaction to the GoW threads doesn't do us any good. A warning is sufficient.
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While I'm aware that Deagon has quite questionable behavior, this is just rather unacceptable.
@Eseseso @Robo432343 You all know better than to start public drama with someone else, and those hashtags of "demote deagon" was highly disrespectful.
@Eseseso @Robo432343 You all know better than to start public drama with someone else, and those hashtags of "demote deagon" was highly disrespectful.
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I agree with a warning
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On that note, I think Robo should be given a warning as well for this comment he made.
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It's fine, really. No biggie.
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Robo had other, worse comments that are now deleted. I felt they were less notable than Eseseso's continued ranting on the subject, but then I try to be lenient towards people also tossing me into the mix for voicing my opinion (a perhaps misguided approach but one that alleviates bias somewhat). If you feel it is sufficient, I would agree.
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As SSSO has agreed he went overboard, I'll add him to the warning tracker for now. Robo hasn't replied here and isn't online, as far as I can tell, so I'll wait and see about a response at the very least.
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Skimming through the thread, there's a couple of others. From @Tony_di_bugalu (The second is from the revision thread itself, but I deleted it due to lack of permission and it's inflammatory nature)
Also this comment from @Pepsimanslover_69:
And these other comments from @Eseseso:
For my part, I encourage action insofar as this sort of needless drama-bait is not appropriate for the forum. As a matter of personal offense, I'm mostly indifferent. I'm known for pursuing downgrades and having a somewhat more conservative take on things than other people, and this sort of vitriol or accusations of foul play -- in my experience -- have been the cost of doing business when taking the stance that an ability or tier is not supported by the evidence. It has happened with every single verse I have worked on, I have seen the same directed at other staff members who tend to lean towards downgrades, and I know that it's not truly preventable.
I stand by the decisions I have made in terms of administrative actions, albeit I recognize that I get too prickly at times (not an uncommon thing, but far from ideal). In any case, those who have legitimate concerns that my actions are unbecoming of a staff member should direct those concerns to members of HR who are responsible for receiving and considering such complaints as they pertain to demoting staff members. Open and public trash talking or accusations are not appropriate.
Also this comment from @Pepsimanslover_69:
And these other comments from @Eseseso:
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For my part, I encourage action insofar as this sort of needless drama-bait is not appropriate for the forum. As a matter of personal offense, I'm mostly indifferent. I'm known for pursuing downgrades and having a somewhat more conservative take on things than other people, and this sort of vitriol or accusations of foul play -- in my experience -- have been the cost of doing business when taking the stance that an ability or tier is not supported by the evidence. It has happened with every single verse I have worked on, I have seen the same directed at other staff members who tend to lean towards downgrades, and I know that it's not truly preventable.
I stand by the decisions I have made in terms of administrative actions, albeit I recognize that I get too prickly at times (not an uncommon thing, but far from ideal). In any case, those who have legitimate concerns that my actions are unbecoming of a staff member should direct those concerns to members of HR who are responsible for receiving and considering such complaints as they pertain to demoting staff members. Open and public trash talking or accusations are not appropriate.
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Pretty sure it goes to Wiki Vandalism Reports.
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I personally agree with this. We cannot be too oversensitive regarding disfavourable opinions about us.
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@The_Yellow_Topaz straight up just called a guy illiterate
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I don't consider it too severe. It's nothing more than a slap-on-the-wrist scenario.@The_Yellow_Topaz straight up just called a guy illiterate
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