EldemadeDityjon
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Real Sneak is Maki. Miguel is canonically has better feat.
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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So its just about being better in close combat? Is there something else scaling him to Gojo
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I've seen several interpretations of the Miguel statement (one being the statement is in reference to skill since in the page prior Gojo mentions Miguel's unique way at using CE reinforcement, another being that it references just raw stats given how it's worded, another being that it's just referencing endurance) so I'm just going to wait until we get further clarification and feats to make any concrete scaling.
EldemadeDityjon
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Gojo states it's about CE Reinforcements and close combat. So CE output is on same level Gojo nonetheless whoever has better offensive and defensive techniques
Though there is a possibility Gojo made this statements in JJK0 and Current Gojo is stronger than that time.
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SSK has CE Miguel can just easily dodge that and the fact his CQC is even praised by Gojo.
SSK is just wanked at this point. It's not dangerous if it can't hit others.
Yuji does pushed back Sukuna but speed I'm not sure he is still on same level as Sukuna. Maki just does a sneak attack nothing else previous chapters she was getting blitzed. Miguel damaged Sukuna while completely blocking his attack. He also casually dodges amped dismantles casually which maki barely does it on time.
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IMO the whole powerscaling thing here went to hell the moment gege tried to say Gojo wasn't on Sukuna's level or that Sukuna was holding back or some other shit like that when the guy literally made Gojo ragdoll Sukuna, Mahoraga and Agito. It has been on a downhill since then.
Sukuna literally had to steal the 10S and play defensive keeping Big Ragga safe until he could get a way to bypass infinity and even then that almost got him killed.
Sukuna literally had to steal the 10S and play defensive keeping Big Ragga safe until he could get a way to bypass infinity and even then that almost got him killed.
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I’ll be there for your downfall when Maki gets better feats than Miguel.
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Gojo: Damn he was still holding back
Sukuna with 1HP using all of his braincells to make up a binding vow so he can kill Gojo asap before he gets deleted with a random attack from him be like
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It's entirely possible Gojo thought Sukuna was holding back cuz of the instant kill Dismantle taking him out before he could even realize what happened
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That's the thing
Imagine beating the absolute shit out of a guy and putting him on life support with a nuke
and then suddenly you're at the airport
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bro that sounds so bad but it's soooo true lol
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It's not that Gege was trying to say Gojo wasn't on Sukuna's level, Gojo clearly shows and says himself multiple times his power is actually greater than Sukunas. And the story never tries to negate that fact, seeing as Sukuna is still dealing with the aftereffects so long after.
What Gojo is saying at the end is that he still wasn't able to get Sukuna to go all out, which isn't because of an overwhelming difference in power, that's just because difference in objective and means of getting to their individual goals.
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EldemadeDityjon
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Agito is mocked as a mindless one-trick phony. While Mahoraga was the only one interacting with Gojo, it still needed commands from Sukuna. Sukuna was within the shadows for 90% of the chapter. That fight was Gojo fighting Shikigami's more than him fighting 3 vs 1. Not to mention Gege literally states Gojo got his RCT output back with Second BF. He also had BF zone before fighting Agito and Mahoraga. Not saying Sukuna >>>>> Gojo. But they are on the same footing even without Mahoraga, and Sukuna really trying with DA. It's not power scaling gone to hell. Gojo fan girls can't just accept reality, that's all.
This is incorrect for many reasons. Gege or Sukuna never once mentioned Sukuna stole TS to kill Gojo. Even when Sukuna set his eyes on Megumi, he didn't know about Mahoraga.
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Gege was definitely not trying to play it like Gojo isn't on Sukuna's level
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I mean, what it even means that Sukuna wasn’t going all out against Gojo? I’m pretty sure that’s technique-wise and not stats, but even then, what was he gonna do? Use Flames just to get negged by Infinity?
That Gojo statement is simply bs until Gege gives more context on that.
That Gojo statement is simply bs until Gege gives more context on that.
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Bossman, Miguel is not dodging every attack from Maki. He is not sukuna
Both Maki and Yuji are going to scale to Miguel this chapter
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It is correct that Sukuna planned to take Megumi as a vessel from the beginning. However, once he realizes Mahoraga's main ability, he says that Megumi has "shown him the way." There is only one thing to take away from that
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Sukuna holding back was in context with Sukuna not using his own CT but instead using an overall more inferior CT to fight due to that CT simply being a better counter for Gojo specifically, so Sukuna wasn't fighting at his best but that's not because he didn't need or was holding back in the traditional sense. It's why Gojo speculates on if he'd win or not if Sukuna didn't use 10 Shadows after discussing Sukuna not using all his power.
This notion that Sukuna is MASSIVELY above Gojo despite Gojo being such a significant opponent that Sukuna will remember him for life, Sukuna was scared of losing for the first time in 1,000 years, Sukuna was pushed to brain damage and being hit by a near-fatal HP, etc.
This notion that Sukuna is MASSIVELY above Gojo despite Gojo being such a significant opponent that Sukuna will remember him for life, Sukuna was scared of losing for the first time in 1,000 years, Sukuna was pushed to brain damage and being hit by a near-fatal HP, etc.
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People are going insane if they think the physically gifted character is not getting feats that put her among the other physically gifted characters.
Maki is obviously scaling to Yuji and Miguel next chapter. People always purposefully ignore that she fought the strongest Sukuna yet after Gojo. Dude was NOT holding back.
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Only one I be doubting is Yuji till he gets that MC spotlight
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Physically & CE Reinforcements and output they are comparable.
Gojo had upper hand because of Blue (which is CT). Sukuna does has Wincon without Mahogara. Just destroy Gojos domain barriers. Gojo himself states he was taking Risker Path. Gojo thinking Sukuna would have mostly won may be because of this. I don't know why everyone just nitpicks instants Gojo doing better and ignores important points where Sukuna had chances.
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Forgot to mention he was not holding back against her and Maki forced him to go all out. Made dude hit a Black Flash because he locked in.
The same Black Flash that Maki ate (unless given further context to that, fvck yall LMAO) and came back as nothing has happened.
Same Maki who’s gonna fight Sukuna after hitting 2 Black Flashes and regaining output, it seems.
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Sneak attack and SSK dura negMaki was the only one to cause significant damage on Sukuna in the same chapter
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Gege is purposefully not giving Yuji any spotlight so he can get everything when his time comes… he’s gonna pull the Mahito move on Sukuna.
Make this mf cry for his life for the love of God.
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Not a sneak attack because SSK makes her detectable…. And she’s just her…Sneak attack and SSK dura neg
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Well Yuji had Sukuna's attention. It's not about it getting detected or not he was clearly talking to Yuji in Mid Combat.
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Sukuna going all out against Maki doesn't mean much when he was heavily nerfed from his fight with Yuta. Just because he isn't holding back doesn't mean he is stronger than before, if anything he is way weaker than he was prior to his fight with Yuta and Yuji.
Maki didn't eat that black flash, she was literally out of the fight for 2 chapters and only joined at the very end of this one, moreover it isn't like she is gonna throw hands alone against Sukuna, she is getting help from Yuji (who can still nerf Sukuna again), Miguel (another of those "Gojo level" characters we keep getting lmao), Choso and probably Laure if he survives that BF.
I'm not denying that she is a beast or that she is strong as hell, I'm just stating the facts and the facts here show that Maki isn't on the level you think she is.
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Still, Maki was nowhere to be seen and the page cuts to her cutting his hand off. SSK makes her detectable and was Sukuna ever caught off guard while giving someone else attention?
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In this instance, Gojo isn't specifically thinking Sukuna would win through this. He's wondering why Sukuna hadn't tried destroying the barrier from the inside. And given Gojo specifically calls this out, he obviously wouldn't make it easy for SukunaPhysically & CE Reinforcements and output they are comparable.
Gojo had upper hand because of Blue (which is CT). Sukuna does has Wincon without Mahogara. Just destroy Gojos domain barriers. Gojo himself states he was taking Risker Path. Gojo thinking Sukuna would have mostly won may be because of this. I don't know why everyone just nitpicks instants Gojo doing better and ignores important points where Sukuna had chances.
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He should
I would say Yuji already displayed better feats so far.
Sukuna character lives for Jujutsu. I don't think shown him the way indicates to Gojo when it can also mean he wants to try out Mahoraga to improve his CT.
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His amped Dismantle still took out Yuta so he was much stronger. Sukuna fighting harder against Maki is definitely worth something
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World Splitting Dismantle*
Yeah, not denying the second part, just explaining that it isn't as impressive as ya'll thinkg.
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Let me break it down to you so that you can understand the context
- I never said Gojo was thinking in that instance as "Sukuna would win"
- Gojo didn't know about brain getting fried because of recovering CT burnout from RCT.
- So he has every reason to believe Sukuna could have kept his brain damage to minimum and Make Gojo keep using RCT to recover CT burnout and get brain fried.
- Gojo made the statement atter he has knowledge of how using RCT to recover CT burnout would nerf him. There is a high possibility Gojo was talking about this scene.
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It definitely means he was stronger than before. He got tons of damage but when fighting Maki he had everything healed up. He lost almost all his arms against Yuta and Yuji but had them against Maki. The only damage he was constantly healing was the heart damage. Caused by Maki.
Yuta and Yuji fought Sukuna who was only using 2 hands (We know how strong he is with 4) and it was a 3v1. They were pressuring him with a sure-hit that could’ve deleted him from existance. Even then, Sukuna was parrying Yuta’s sword attacks with easy and doing whatever he wanted with Yuji, forcing him to exceed his RCT capabilities and had to had help from Choso.
She came back with literally no damage and even Sukuna was surprised. She ate that Black Flash. Characters are constantly not appearing for a few chapters, Yuji wasn’t on screen when Maki fought Sukuna and Kusakabe fought him as well. Doesn’t mean he was out of battle, it just means… it was someone’s else time to shine.
The fact that Maki is keeping up with the same Yuji that fought a “stronger Sukuna” according to you, and Miguel, debunks that bullshit narrative that Elde is trying to push.
You are not stating shit brother lol, everything yall are saying is simply bullshit.
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He didn't get to use the enmaten hand sign. Only the incantations
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Pretty sure he met at least 2 requirements to use World Splitting Dismantle and that two things are specific to it, and not a strong version of it
