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bro that sounds so bad but it's soooo true lol
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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It's not that Gege was trying to say Gojo wasn't on Sukuna's level, Gojo clearly shows and says himself multiple times his power is actually greater than Sukunas. And the story never tries to negate that fact, seeing as Sukuna is still dealing with the aftereffects so long after.
What Gojo is saying at the end is that he still wasn't able to get Sukuna to go all out, which isn't because of an overwhelming difference in power, that's just because difference in objective and means of getting to their individual goals.
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Agito is mocked as a mindless one-trick phony. While Mahoraga was the only one interacting with Gojo, it still needed commands from Sukuna. Sukuna was within the shadows for 90% of the chapter. That fight was Gojo fighting Shikigami's more than him fighting 3 vs 1. Not to mention Gege literally states Gojo got his RCT output back with Second BF. He also had BF zone before fighting Agito and Mahoraga. Not saying Sukuna >>>>> Gojo. But they are on the same footing even without Mahoraga, and Sukuna really trying with DA. It's not power scaling gone to hell. Gojo fan girls can't just accept reality, that's all.
This is incorrect for many reasons. Gege or Sukuna never once mentioned Sukuna stole TS to kill Gojo. Even when Sukuna set his eyes on Megumi, he didn't know about Mahoraga.
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Gege was definitely not trying to play it like Gojo isn't on Sukuna's level
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I mean, what it even means that Sukuna wasn’t going all out against Gojo? I’m pretty sure that’s technique-wise and not stats, but even then, what was he gonna do? Use Flames just to get negged by Infinity?
That Gojo statement is simply bs until Gege gives more context on that.
That Gojo statement is simply bs until Gege gives more context on that.
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Bossman, Miguel is not dodging every attack from Maki. He is not sukuna
Both Maki and Yuji are going to scale to Miguel this chapter
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It is correct that Sukuna planned to take Megumi as a vessel from the beginning. However, once he realizes Mahoraga's main ability, he says that Megumi has "shown him the way." There is only one thing to take away from that
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Sukuna holding back was in context with Sukuna not using his own CT but instead using an overall more inferior CT to fight due to that CT simply being a better counter for Gojo specifically, so Sukuna wasn't fighting at his best but that's not because he didn't need or was holding back in the traditional sense. It's why Gojo speculates on if he'd win or not if Sukuna didn't use 10 Shadows after discussing Sukuna not using all his power.
This notion that Sukuna is MASSIVELY above Gojo despite Gojo being such a significant opponent that Sukuna will remember him for life, Sukuna was scared of losing for the first time in 1,000 years, Sukuna was pushed to brain damage and being hit by a near-fatal HP, etc.
This notion that Sukuna is MASSIVELY above Gojo despite Gojo being such a significant opponent that Sukuna will remember him for life, Sukuna was scared of losing for the first time in 1,000 years, Sukuna was pushed to brain damage and being hit by a near-fatal HP, etc.
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People are going insane if they think the physically gifted character is not getting feats that put her among the other physically gifted characters.
Maki is obviously scaling to Yuji and Miguel next chapter. People always purposefully ignore that she fought the strongest Sukuna yet after Gojo. Dude was NOT holding back.
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Only one I be doubting is Yuji till he gets that MC spotlight
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Physically & CE Reinforcements and output they are comparable.
Gojo had upper hand because of Blue (which is CT). Sukuna does has Wincon without Mahogara. Just destroy Gojos domain barriers. Gojo himself states he was taking Risker Path. Gojo thinking Sukuna would have mostly won may be because of this. I don't know why everyone just nitpicks instants Gojo doing better and ignores important points where Sukuna had chances.
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Forgot to mention he was not holding back against her and Maki forced him to go all out. Made dude hit a Black Flash because he locked in.
The same Black Flash that Maki ate (unless given further context to that, fvck yall LMAO) and came back as nothing has happened.
Same Maki who’s gonna fight Sukuna after hitting 2 Black Flashes and regaining output, it seems.
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Sneak attack and SSK dura negMaki was the only one to cause significant damage on Sukuna in the same chapter
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Gege is purposefully not giving Yuji any spotlight so he can get everything when his time comes… he’s gonna pull the Mahito move on Sukuna.
Make this mf cry for his life for the love of God.
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Not a sneak attack because SSK makes her detectable…. And she’s just her…Sneak attack and SSK dura neg
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Well Yuji had Sukuna's attention. It's not about it getting detected or not he was clearly talking to Yuji in Mid Combat.
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Sukuna going all out against Maki doesn't mean much when he was heavily nerfed from his fight with Yuta. Just because he isn't holding back doesn't mean he is stronger than before, if anything he is way weaker than he was prior to his fight with Yuta and Yuji.
Maki didn't eat that black flash, she was literally out of the fight for 2 chapters and only joined at the very end of this one, moreover it isn't like she is gonna throw hands alone against Sukuna, she is getting help from Yuji (who can still nerf Sukuna again), Miguel (another of those "Gojo level" characters we keep getting lmao), Choso and probably Laure if he survives that BF.
I'm not denying that she is a beast or that she is strong as hell, I'm just stating the facts and the facts here show that Maki isn't on the level you think she is.
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Still, Maki was nowhere to be seen and the page cuts to her cutting his hand off. SSK makes her detectable and was Sukuna ever caught off guard while giving someone else attention?
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In this instance, Gojo isn't specifically thinking Sukuna would win through this. He's wondering why Sukuna hadn't tried destroying the barrier from the inside. And given Gojo specifically calls this out, he obviously wouldn't make it easy for SukunaPhysically & CE Reinforcements and output they are comparable.
Gojo had upper hand because of Blue (which is CT). Sukuna does has Wincon without Mahogara. Just destroy Gojos domain barriers. Gojo himself states he was taking Risker Path. Gojo thinking Sukuna would have mostly won may be because of this. I don't know why everyone just nitpicks instants Gojo doing better and ignores important points where Sukuna had chances.
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He should
I would say Yuji already displayed better feats so far.
Sukuna character lives for Jujutsu. I don't think shown him the way indicates to Gojo when it can also mean he wants to try out Mahoraga to improve his CT.
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His amped Dismantle still took out Yuta so he was much stronger. Sukuna fighting harder against Maki is definitely worth something
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World Splitting Dismantle*
Yeah, not denying the second part, just explaining that it isn't as impressive as ya'll thinkg.
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Let me break it down to you so that you can understand the context
- I never said Gojo was thinking in that instance as "Sukuna would win"
- Gojo didn't know about brain getting fried because of recovering CT burnout from RCT.
- So he has every reason to believe Sukuna could have kept his brain damage to minimum and Make Gojo keep using RCT to recover CT burnout and get brain fried.
- Gojo made the statement atter he has knowledge of how using RCT to recover CT burnout would nerf him. There is a high possibility Gojo was talking about this scene.
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It definitely means he was stronger than before. He got tons of damage but when fighting Maki he had everything healed up. He lost almost all his arms against Yuta and Yuji but had them against Maki. The only damage he was constantly healing was the heart damage. Caused by Maki.
Yuta and Yuji fought Sukuna who was only using 2 hands (We know how strong he is with 4) and it was a 3v1. They were pressuring him with a sure-hit that could’ve deleted him from existance. Even then, Sukuna was parrying Yuta’s sword attacks with easy and doing whatever he wanted with Yuji, forcing him to exceed his RCT capabilities and had to had help from Choso.
She came back with literally no damage and even Sukuna was surprised. She ate that Black Flash. Characters are constantly not appearing for a few chapters, Yuji wasn’t on screen when Maki fought Sukuna and Kusakabe fought him as well. Doesn’t mean he was out of battle, it just means… it was someone’s else time to shine.
The fact that Maki is keeping up with the same Yuji that fought a “stronger Sukuna” according to you, and Miguel, debunks that bullshit narrative that Elde is trying to push.
You are not stating shit brother lol, everything yall are saying is simply bullshit.
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He didn't get to use the enmaten hand sign. Only the incantations
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Pretty sure he met at least 2 requirements to use World Splitting Dismantle and that two things are specific to it, and not a strong version of it
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Sukuna didn't notice Yuji was until he hits him because he was busy with Miguel and Choso's attention.
I mean Miguel and Laure blizted Sukuna and saved Kusakabe and UI UI in previous chapter didn't notices them.
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Believe me, I agree that Gojo may have been referring to the Domain battle. I'm just pointing out that it wouldn't have been easy. Hell, it's suggested that it would most likely be a close battle
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Bruh I literally said they are comparable in output and CE Reinforcements where did I said it's one sided massacreBelieve me, I agree that Gojo may have been referring to the Domain battle. I'm just pointing out that it wouldn't have been easy. Hell, it would still likely be a close battle
I was just pointing out Gojo's statement for Sukuna having other Wincons without TS that's all. Not saying either side one shots each other.
It's not easy for both sides.
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The binding vow forces Sukuna to aim the attack after using incantations and hand signs. He can't leave anything out
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Sukuna still reacted to him and blocked. Pretty sure Miguel was using his technique there to avoid the slash and save Ui Ui (it makes way more sense given he’s shown to be comparable to Sukuna later on) and Laure used his technique to sabe Kusakabe… he could’ve been hit and take 1/10 of that still.Sukuna didn't notice Yuji was until he hits him because he was busy with Miguel and Choso's attention.
I mean Miguel and Laure blizted Sukuna and saved Kusakabe and UI UI in previous chapter didn't notices them.
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He needs hand signs , Chants and one hand to set a direction. So 3 hands are requirements as far as I see. unless he puts WS inside MS.
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He did aim the attack on Yuta. His hand was clearly pointing at him.
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Then at least we're on the same pageBruh I literally said they are comparable in output and CE Reinforcements where did I said it's one sided massacre
I was just pointing out Gojo's statement for Sukuna having other Wincons without TS that's all. Not saying either side one shots each other.
It's not easy for both sides.
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Because of the binding vow, he has to enact all three requirements to expand Dismantle's target to the world
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In what dimension is someone stronger than prior to eating several nerfs and tanking shit that literally counters their existence by just going all out? lmao
Yeah, because she has a pretty nice sword that deals soul damage, something they can't easily heal, stop, tank or anything like that.
Yeah, because he was stronger like did you even read the fight? Yuta and Yuji both knew that getting close to Sukuna was dangerous af because he had NOT been nerfed yet, it was almost at the very end that his output had been so nerfed that he couldn't deal enough damage to them and after that he took A JB TO THE FACE
The last one isn't quite the same because he explicitly went for the space cutting hax so Yuji exceeding his capabilities isn't that relevant.
After 2 chapters knocked out. Yuji's example doesn't work because he explicitly was trying to heal after tanking a WSD and several close quarters dismantles from a pre-nerf sukuna.
I never saw her keeping up, she just sneaked on sukuna and cut his arm. Hell during her first round with Sukuna she got blitzed and slapped around whenever Sukuna wanted.
Nah fam, seems like you are the one who doesn't know what's going on
