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The chapter explicitly said he stopped using HWB to fire off a world splitting dismantle. Greg just sucks with his asspulls explanations to keep sukuna winning
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Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1
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EldemadeDityjon
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Either he was so fast to the point he made signs with his upper hand and used the direction later onwards to the point Yuta couldn't react or it was just a dismantle amped with chants because we do see same kind of dismantles are used against Miguel and Maki.
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But what exactly makes you think he didn’t do the second gesture? Just because it wasn’t shown doesn’t mean he didn’t do it. Our PoV unfortunately cuts the part where we could see Sukuna doing it.
I’m pretty sure none of the “amped” Dismantles were used with the exact same Chants and gestures as the World Slash.
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It was a gamble to fire the world cutting slash. Doesn't mean he was successful in enacting all three requirements
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Trust me I'm well aware Sukuna's no stranger to off screen haki but since we didn't see it it's obviously fair to assume he didn't do it
EldemadeDityjon
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Brother, context is very important. Sukuna aimed to fire his WS, but his hands got ripped apart, which makes the signs. It's not uncommon for Sukuna to improvise his way of fighting, and instead of firing his WS, he could have just amped dismantle there. I'm not saying Sukuna just amping dismantle is
correct, but that doesn't mean Sukuna amping just dismantle and not WS isn't far-fetched like you are saying.
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It was a gamble to fire the world splitting cut because he was gonna get JL'd the second he let go of HWB, not because he was unable to fire it (at the time)
EldemadeDityjon
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Isn't that states his signs are same as MS when using WS so isn't it's possible his chants is same for normal dismantle?
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aye something else we agree onThe manga will soon state that Sukuna used World Slash against Yuta and people will go like “but how Gege he didn’t use one specific gesture” when it’s obvious as **** that he did use World Slash
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It’s so convenient that Sukuna used the exact same chants as World Slash, aimed the Slash as it was stated in the current chapter, but because it wasn’t showed an specific hand sign it means he didn’t use world slash.
None of the amped slashes Sukuna used had the same chants and hand signing guiding it as necessary. Yall are creating a whole new attack for Sukuna.
None of the amped slashes Sukuna used had the same chants and hand signing guiding it as necessary. Yall are creating a whole new attack for Sukuna.
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EldemadeDityjon
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WS Signs = MS signs
So it's not far fetched to say WS dismantle chants are same as Normal dismantle chants. Though I am not gonna say I'm 100% correct. But there is a possibility it was just dismantle with chants.
EldemadeDityjon
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This is heavily implied as Yuji's PB. Choso wasn't seen until Yuta gets packed up and Kusakabe, Ino and Maki were ready to jump in. Also check the translation TCB states wording does feels like this is talking about Yuji's
This is older brother, the death womb painting's..
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This is what a Chant for Dismantle looks like. It’s just Dismantle and a handsign.
Those chants are for World Slash and World Slash only.
EldemadeDityjon
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Gojo also normally never uses bigger chants for HP, but we do know he has chants for that. I don't see why Dismantle wouldn't have bigger chants. Sorcerers normally shorten their chants. Here, Sukuna has no reason to amp his output by chanting. Infinity just blocks that nonetheless. He was aiming for the building so it didn't need amps.
This is what a Chant for Dismantle looks like. It’s just Dismantle and a handsign.
Those chants are for World Slash and World Slash only.
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Bro we didn't ever see anyone use long-winded incantations like Gojo and Sukuna before 223
EldemadeDityjon
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I'm happy to agree with you when that time comes I don't have any problem with that. But for now we can't just disregard the possibility of it being normal dismantle amped by chants.
EldemadeDityjon
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No one lol.
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Only Gege can introduce the "mastery of subtraction and addition" concept this late into the story
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The power system has a foundation for that concept but the fact that we haven't seen anyone abuse it until late into the story is laughable
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The only thing thats really said is the technique belongs to Choso, a death womb painting.
You can see it as Yuji's technique sure, but there's no conclusive proof he did it, unlike Choso who has used Piercing Blood only at every point he has appeared this arc.
EldemadeDityjon
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Actually there was chants for barriers before chapter 223. During BOS but it was not touched until Gojo vs Sukuna started gege might have didn't wanted to touch that before.Only Gege can introduce the "subtraction and addition" concept this late into the story
Btw Hakari's domain & JP state has music, dance and chants. I don't remember others using this.
EldemadeDityjon
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I feel sorry for you reading his shit translation
. Try TCB site honestly viz translation for JJK is not the best. Especially recent chapters Werry has been stuff on his own.Well that's why I said this is not solid proof to say Sukuna tanked Choso's PB. Only Choso used PB is not a valid answer too we do know Yuji trained with Kamo and Yuji does has BM
You & I may be right or wrong. We wouldn't know that
So far onscreen Choso's PB is dodged by Sukuna twice.
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I'm aware things like veils have a default hand sign and incantation. The real question is about extra steps and why more people don't abuse them to boost their technqiues
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That doesn't make any sense.
At that point in time Sukuna was so weakened that a cleave to the head only served to stagger Yuta. A cleave.
There's no way a chant alone would be enough to make a dismantle cut clean through a fully reinforced Yuta who was expecting the attack.
Not only are we told his plan to fire a World Cutting Dismantle, we see him do the point that is required to send off the slash at the end and the chants.
Its perfectly reasonable to assume he cut his hands free and then did the handsign in the short period Yuji tried to commune with Megumi's soul.
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He gambled and succeeded and that's why his guard was down and Maki exploited that.
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"******* idiot" is a strong phrase and semi-accurate!
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Nah entire jjk is plot induced stupidity and bad writing and gege is a entire trolling for entire world
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It's really not about anything except Miguel scaling to Gojo AND Gojo in jjk0 = current Gojo.
Gojo is basically saying that MIguel has that unknown crazy build, and because of that he's scarrier than Japanese sorcerers, and he would beat him in point combat without a cursed technique.
literally not what it's talking about. Gojo is talking about his muscles + CE reinforcement... he's blatantly talking about stats, and how in a fight he would lose to Miguel under that context...
This is the most absurd cope I've heard. Gojo isn't saying he has skill and hence uses special CE reinforcement, he's saying his build + CE reinforcement = broken asf because he's making a racist statement. He's not talking about Miguel's skill and praising it, he's talking about Miguel's body and saying that + CE > other people + CE because of his "rare build.
Sukuna doesn't use many of his major techniques which would've been of insane advantage vs Gojo. I'd say its' more, he wanted to beat Gojo this specific way hence he didn't use certain things like the black box which we know can one shot comparable opponents. My guess based on Uraume saying that none of them have forced Sukuna to go all out based on his CE is that he's got a specific technique or something which he only uses to go all out. Uraume doesn't have a way to tell like the percentage of his power he's using, and to be like "ah he's only using 40% right now," the only way he would know is via sensing the technique.
I think it might be the same for Gojo, and hence Gojo calls out the use of the same technique.
Put the flames into the sure-hit or something like that, since the black box technique is just another application of Shrine, and not a CT reversal or something like that
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Gege has fumbled quite a few, colossal number of times (Already made a point or two about the women) he still cooked quite the feast up to Shibuya and I'm still here, seeing what's in store
Guacamolefletcher
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To explain more on this:
Gojo says what's crazy about Miguel is "that build" and he goes on to explain:
"add a cursed energy buff to these guys (?) physiques and muscle mass, which are crazy rare in japan, and the result is pretty menacing"
Nowhere does he mention "ah, Miguel's crazy skill at CE reinforcement, dang," he mentions Miguel's body itself combined with CE reinforcement is scary to him.
When Yuta asks what he means by the menacing combination of "these guys physiques and muscle mass" + "cursed energy buff" being "pretty menacing," and if it applies to him / if it's a threat to him
He explains Miguel would win in a "sprint" (TCB) or "Point movement"
This is clearly talking about in response to the CE reinforcement + the crazy rare physiques and muscle mass combo which he said was scary. It's consistent because he's saying that such a thing would be a threat to him, and then explains why it'd be a threat, because he'd lose in point movement w/o cursed techniques. To fully put the nail in the coffin, the build + CE buff has nothing to do with being skilled, as that has no relation to your build. However, the result does factor in your muscle mass, as with equal skill and CE buff, muscle mass makes the difference here.
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THATS WHY HE IS THE GOAT. THE GOAT.
