Zabazab
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Self-inflicted damage is not impossible by my logic.
Why? It covers the face.
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel) VS Battles Page
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ShionAH
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but like...they are plot points in the episodes like in episode 7
if we assume Angels dont have Immo or Invulnerability then episode 3 and 7 are just...wrong
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Plus, the rubble didn't only damage Lute's face, her legs were also bleeding
ShionAH
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Its angelic rubble obviously
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sigh we really should just get someone into this who knows invulnerability crap lol
The mask would've had a visible cut in it and maybe even would've had some blood on it.
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I think Angels have Immortality though lol
ShionAH
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then why do you think they were stated to be invulnerable? we clearly see that Adam was "invulnerable" to everyone expect lucifer.
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I disagree with Invulnerability not Immortality
ShionAH
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yeah but we see Adam was not hurt by anyone other than Lucifer and angelic weapons
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He was moved by shit like Alastor's shadows, which uh
I think Invulnerability should be closer to Senator Armstrong-ing everything
Zabazab
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You don't need to break a mask to break the skin undeneath it, can confirm, have faceplanted with a mask on before.
Invulnerability is one of those powers that's incredibly case-by-case.
It can appear like total immovability, or just negate damage while retaining force.
I'd liken Angel's to the invul of Cursed Spirits in JJK– they can be beaten up, tossed around, blown away, but never take actual damage unless an attack was imbued with Cursed Energy (or in this case, Angelic Power).
ShionAH
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I mean he was not hurt by it at all, he didnt feel pain nor did it affect his body in anyway
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Normally that's losing skin, etc. Not a perfect cut.
We really need a staff in here to decide this because I don't really agree lll
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Okay so i missed a lot, we got 4 new pages, any page we agreed on using? And what are we discussing?
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Nifty God Tier
ShionAH
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We are discussing Invunlerability rn.
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I think that'd be fair
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Yes, even Sinners can survive fatal wounds without dying, and in episode 3 Velvette said that one of her models needed to "put herself together" after Val had torn her apart in a rage.
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Yep, and we need it eval'd too. So there's 2 Adam feats to do and one is uncalced
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Ogg file for Adam's quote
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human[3], Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin Hotel...
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I think we can have Angels as like no-sell above Sinners, maybe even Overlords*
Then they'd be regarded as invincible without getting an ability that would let em no-sell 3-A and higher attacks
Zabazab
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So they're a no-sell above Overlords, but can't even scratch Alastor's shield, and can have their sword-swing caught by Angel Dust?
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Alastor is leagues above your typical Overlord and I'm pretty sure Angel Dust blocking the sword-swing is more due to the gun's durability, kinda like Connie's blocks
Zabazab
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There isn't really anything putting Alastor significantly above the current Overlords I believe? He was strangely nervous around Zestial and Carmilla was unimpressed by his return.
But more importantly Alastor also needed to use Angelic Weapons on the Exorcists, and he himself calls them indestructable.
It can't be a stat-diff if the Exorcists can't scratch Alastor's barrier, while Alastor himself considers them indestructable.
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Alastor has magic and was stated to be in the same ballpark as Stolas, so lad is definitely above your average Warlord.
I think Charlie calls them that and Alastor says that they might not be so, but even still, Stone Walls exist lol
I think Charlie calls them that and Alastor says that they might not be so, but even still, Stone Walls exist lol
ShionAH
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no not really, Viv simply said stolas was stronger
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Personally, I would have the 2nd Quote end with the "until we kill 'em again!" but that's just me
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Can someone get me a scan of Adam's big ass beam so I can get it calced?
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Was that stuff stated by WOG? Otherwise, it could just be unreliable narrator moments from the weapons dealer. Imo, the statements could be interpreted as durability vs invulnerability.
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invulnerability when heavily inconsistent
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Unironically think we should get rid of Invulnerability. It's pretty much just cracked-out damage reduction + high durability anyway.
ShionAH
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alastor and Charlie say the same thing
