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Alastor was still confident of victory. The field clearly did not have all his power.
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel) VS Battles Page
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ShionAH
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Oh wow the king of lies and manipulation lies and manipulates. Who would have guessed
Eden_Warlock99
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He was genuinely surprised when Adam broke his staff, I think he kinda believed it
ShionAH
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I could swear Vivi already made a tier list of power ranking for the verse. I dont know where it is tho
ShionAH
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He was acting like he believed it so Adam could lose his cool. Thats his memo. He smiles even when scared. He bluffs all the time.
Eden_Warlock99
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Adam says something like "that could have been bad" when he zaps him, so its at least implied that the ship blast could have hurt Adam if he was more distracted
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By the way, invulnerability will probably have to be removed. We are clearly talking about immortality. Because the exorcists bled when they crashed into Alastor's force field. The stones crushed Lute.
Giannysmag
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Are you talking about Hell's hierarchy?
Zabazab
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Every Angel in the Exorcist Army being invulnerable except the strongest/leader would be pretty weird. Causing him to jerk his head back doesn't indicate damage was dealt, and the only times we see him get hurt are when Charlie & Lucy (both angelic) hit him, and when Niffty shanks him while he's down.
Zabazab
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Both cases of self-harm, frankly.
ShionAH
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Yep
Lute ripped her own arm on purpose. This was explained above, please read the discussion entirely.
He says that could have been ugly.
ShionAH
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I think it's Immortality, like, either Type 4 or 5, as I suggested we could list them both as "likely" and note that they're mutually exclusive
Eden_Warlock99
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Yeah, I think their invulnerability is a more akin to them simply being too strong for normal sinners to damage rather than being effectively invulnerable.
Legit just RoR Invulnerability again
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So what's the topic btw? Whether Adam scales to Alastor? That's easy and done with, he broke his barrier with a punch and injured him within an inch of his life. Alastor even said he escaped death by a hair in his finale song.
The only reason Adam had trouble with Alastor is because he was sloppy. He had zero actual technique, and like the other Exterminators fought with reckless abandon because they believed themselves to be invincible. Alastor had more combat experience, and tricks up his sleeve, which were the only reasons he lasted as long as he did; when Adam got serious he simply brute forced his way through all of it. Adam scales to his energy beams and weapons since he makes them himself from his own energy.
And yes, Adam should scale to around the power of Lucifer, since he did manage to survive his bloodlusted barrage and stood back up with only a black eye and bruises to monologue.
The only reason Adam had trouble with Alastor is because he was sloppy. He had zero actual technique, and like the other Exterminators fought with reckless abandon because they believed themselves to be invincible. Alastor had more combat experience, and tricks up his sleeve, which were the only reasons he lasted as long as he did; when Adam got serious he simply brute forced his way through all of it. Adam scales to his energy beams and weapons since he makes them himself from his own energy.
And yes, Adam should scale to around the power of Lucifer, since he did manage to survive his bloodlusted barrage and stood back up with only a black eye and bruises to monologue.
ShionAH
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Its whether Adam stomped Alastor or not.
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I think it's concept art
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Adam literally struck him once, and his life was nearly ended. Everything before then could easily be pinned down to Adam not being serious.
ShionAH
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Adam was only hurt when he fought Lucifer and stabbed with Angelic Weapons. I dont even think Charlie hurt him normally before she went bloodlusted.
Eden_Warlock99
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Lute got injured from falling rubble
ShionAH
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It incapped her. She ripped her arm off to escape.
ShionAH
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Wouldnt it be better to use his current art?
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If you can find something good to render, cause that was the best piece I had lol
Zabazab
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Tbh I don't think that Angels have any immortalities beyond Type 1 unless I'm missing out on lore.
Invulnerability itself feels fairly blatant with episode 7– Charlie says Angels are invincible, Carmilla points out that Angels fight without fear of injury because they don't think they can be harmed. In episode 3, none of the Overlords believed Angels could be killed until Velvette showed off the head. Not a single Exorcist was taken out in the thousands of years since Hell was created.
That, plus there's no real anti-feats since any time an Angel is harmed it's with an angelic weapon, by another angel, or self-inflicted.
ShionAH
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I would also add regen (low) to his abilities, since he regenerated from Charlie stabbing him in his shoulder almost immediately afterward and was still capable of fighting with the injured arm.
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ShionAH
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Its also stated they can only be killed by angelic weapons and shouldnt winners have the same immortality as sinners in that sense that they are already dead and cannot go to double heaven?
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Running into something hard isn't being damaged by something holy, it's running into something
That doesn't show up.
Eden_Warlock99
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Zabazab
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I agree Winners are probably just Sinners (light mode) until proven otherwise.
Bashing your face into a wall is self-inflicted damage.
This is from fighting Vaggie, the mask (which didn't come off until after she was pinned) was just hiding it.
ShionAH
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ShionAH
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She was wearing a mask, we dont know if she got these bruises from that debris (I know this argument is annoying but yeah)She went from this to this, the rubble visibly bruised her
Eden_Warlock99
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What? How did Vaggie damage Lute's face without, ya know, breaking the mask?
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Damage that should be impossible unless that barrier is holy by your logic.
If Vaggie cut her face the mask would've shown it
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Well we probably shouldn't ******* use them then lol
