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It's really weird that all the characters seem to think that, because I'm pretty sure the angels are able to just rip off each others' wings off.
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Adam (Hazbin Hotel) VS Battles Page
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ShionAH
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maybe angelic weapons and angels can only hurt angels.
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Oh, wait, y'all said KILLED, not damaged. That does seem to be interesting, since the Angelic Weapons seem to kinda rip you outta the afterlife cycle? Or, I guess if you just change a lot, then you get rewarded and are unaffected by that, so Pentious isn't really a debunk for anything, since he's the only one in the cycle.
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Rubble:
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They do seem to be able to be damaged by outside forces that aren't angelic, but I guess nothing else can really finish the job due to Jesus powers.
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The funniest bit is that that technically falls in line with the "Angels are stupid, so they're going to be off-guard a lot of the time" thing
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being off guard shouldnt negate ******* invulnerability
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I mean, it kinda does in some cases, magic isn't scientific, and if you've already taken damage, that leaves you open. But I don't think they're invulnerable, just that only those can kill them because of some heaven shit.
Zabazab
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In Episode 7 alone;
And they aren't just a no-sell above Demons, as Charlie– who is way stronger than anyone in Hell not named Lucy– also believed that the common Exorcists were indestructable despite her being able to fight Adam (far stronger than the Exorcists), and even catch his punch. She only damaged Adam with the angelic Trident she was using.
- Charlie refers to the Angels as "an invincible Exorcist army".
- Alastor says "they're not as indestructable as they appear".
- Charlie tells Vaggie that Carmilla knows how to harm Angels, something Vaggie herself didn't know was possible.
- Carmilla explains that Vaggie fights like someone unafraid of harm, just like all Exorcists.
- Carmilla asks if Vaggie knew that it was possible to harm Angels, Vaggie says she didn't know.
And they aren't just a no-sell above Demons, as Charlie– who is way stronger than anyone in Hell not named Lucy– also believed that the common Exorcists were indestructable despite her being able to fight Adam (far stronger than the Exorcists), and even catch his punch. She only damaged Adam with the angelic Trident she was using.
Eden_Warlock99
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Lute got hurt by rubble
Zabazab
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Rubble caused by an Angel gg
But seriously, if you wanna use this as an antifeat that takes priority over the show's narrative then Exorcists are 9-C and that's considered invincible by Charlie & Alastor. Episode 7 just Does Not Work if rubble can wound Exorcists, be serious for a moment.
The way I see it, the rubble just pinned Lute and the damage she showed was just generic battle-damage from fighting Vaggie, who knows how to harm Angels.
But seriously, if you wanna use this as an antifeat that takes priority over the show's narrative then Exorcists are 9-C and that's considered invincible by Charlie & Alastor. Episode 7 just Does Not Work if rubble can wound Exorcists, be serious for a moment.
The way I see it, the rubble just pinned Lute and the damage she showed was just generic battle-damage from fighting Vaggie, who knows how to harm Angels.
ShionAH
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Thank you < 3Ogg file for Adam's quote
Adam (Hazbin Hotel)
Adam is the main antagonist of the first season of Hazbin Hotel As the first human man,[3] Adam holds a large amount of prestige in Heaven, having been appointed as the head of the Exorcists in order to defend Heaven.[4] Adam, upon being borderline antagonized multiple times targets the Hazbin...vsbattles.fandom.com
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I've updated the calculation to include a method from TheRustyOne. The result became noticeably even greater, but still 7-C.
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Adam vaporizes Sir Pentious's ship
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The calculation was approved by TheRustyOne.I've updated the calculation to include a method from TheRustyOne. The result became noticeably even greater, but still 7-C.
Adam vaporizes Sir Pentious's ship
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Has the hotel blast been calced? Also didn't Alastor create a black out across the pride ring? Shouldn't that also be calced. And finally, I feel like this is relevant since it concerns Adam as well stolas managed to split some clouds in the sky in the 1st striker episode so a clac for that should also happen
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That hasn't been calced yet? Didn't that feat happen like years ago?
Anyways, Angels like Adam specifically should scale above all beings in Hell other than Lucifer and a rage-amped Charlie, so he should be stronger than the Ars Goetia family as a result. By WoG as well, Angels have dominion over demons and that this is specifically because they're stronger than all demons.
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Yep, yet nothing came from it
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That just means the army is pretty much impossible to beat.
He... he literally says they aren't indestructible in that quote.
That's weird, because she was literally an angel being harmed in her flashback.
That's just them being cocky because they're strong.
Yeah, the whole point is that the angels are overconfident because they're strong. We already treat angelic weapons as being way higher than Stolas in AP.
Ok, but she's the child of an angel and a fallen angel, pretty sure she turned those guys into fireworks with her magic in the finale.
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Let's not mention the bird please he's a massive ******* headache in everything scaling.
Hey you want a Relativistic cast?! Well striker caught his flight!
Hey you want tier 5 Lucifer? Stolas moved planets!
Hey you want country level Sins and Charlie? Stolas ate a Country level thing to the face with no damage!
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Maybe he was the god-tier all along. Bro is him. He could've landed a position as Sloth, but he's too lazy.
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I'd closer approximate it to Stolas' entire thing being stars and space crap so he does a lot of crap regarding that
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MCU Khonshu
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Indeed
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Cloud, cloud, cloud, cloud
1. Where
2. He kinda just resisted a star that pulled planets Tbf
Calc, cause this shit is why we need an overhaul thread
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Did you not watch that banger of a new song of his?
that's a different song
Moon splitting in half due to dying star. While Stolas was in the "blast zone"
I'm personally iffy on it because Stolas is the only one with these kinds of feats that isn't a ****** Seraphim
Zabazab
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This interpretation is possible if this statement is isolated from every other statement in the episode.
Charlie is calling the Exorcists invincible.
Alastor responds that they aren't as indestructable as they appear, because he knows Carmilla killed one of them.
What this tells us is that to Hell, including Charlie & Alastor, Exorcists appear indestructable.
Again, context is everything.
This isn't really a critique of the point so I'll ignore it.
I already made my point against Angels simply being a no-sell above Demons below.
Charlie is the daughter of a Fallen Angel and a Sinner(?) Demon. She launched firework magic that did literally nothing and that was it. She still only hurt Adam with the trident.
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Is Lilith a demon? I thought she was literally in heaven at the end.
Zabazab
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Yes Lilith is a Demon.
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I thought that was just him making stuff in his head, since in the end of the episode it transitions to him on the chair
Ik, is it still a feat?
Tbf you need to understand that stolas only shows those feats due to his book relating to space, the rest of the cast don’t give a flying **** about what goes on there and the finale is the only real thing showing their powers, but everything’s done so casually. Stolas is the linchpin but nothing really contradicts this, hell if anything the seraphim creating part of the universe supports interstellar hazbin/helluva
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Also the guy split some clouds, nobody cares tho…
Eden_Warlock99
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Think it was all in his head
Zabazab
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I love cloud KE personally
Giannysmag
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**** cloud feats, all my homies hate cloud feats
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Because making individual profiles from the start was flawed, especially when the verse as a whole is outdated, and need of major revisions.
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I won't be taking part in that, I've done my single profile contribution to the entire verse in Husk and now I must return to the shadows
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If only a mod could close this thread so someone could open a new one
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Cloud feats upgrade the verse tho
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Just looked at the feat, both the rotational KE and final omnidirectional KE seem solidly Tier 7.
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TBF we already have enough for tier 4 (possibly even tier 3) Angels/Charlie thanks to the creation statement in the intro, being shown to be able to grow to star size, and this shot of Lucifer's dream to create a solar system. I'm writing up a blog about it; may try to calc how fast the Angels flew back in this scene too. Obviously nobody in Hell should scale to this directly yet, besides Charlie/Lucifer. Adam did survive a bloodlusted beating from Lucifer, so arguably he should also be that strong as well
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Without a Universal Energy System that's just a creation feat, as well as a Speed feat.
You'd have to do Up to 4-C via Size Manipulation.
