MeidoIzayoi
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you know
Yoshika on her page has immunity to soul manip for lacking a soul
with youkai incorporeality, I wonder if she's qualified for NEP nature 1 aspect 1
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Touhou Discussion Thread 3 ⌈Eternal Fantasy Edition⌋
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Yoshika on her page has immunity to soul manip for lacking a soul
with youkai incorporeality, I wonder if she's qualified for NEP nature 1 aspect 1
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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ehhhhh
Souls in Touhou are very complicated. There are two types - Spirit (which is what we currently index and applies to phantoms and temperament/spiritual power) and Living Spirits (basically the vulgar spirits in TD or dream selves). I'm not sure which one Yoshika lacks, or how a dual system like this would work with NEP.
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wait, You are rewriting Flandre's profile? (I clicked on one of the references and it sent me to your user blog btw)
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I was trying the Terraria Touhou pet mod, and I was in an intense boss fight, I was at low health, so I panicked and tried to enter a cave to escape, but then Koishi backstabbed me and killed me when I entered a place without any lights. I could have won, but she screwed me over. I am angry.
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I'm rewriting every profile. Just doing Flandre's right now so I can get youkai physiology justifications out of the way.
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that sounds fun, may I ask, did you no longer consider Flandre's typical weaknesses like being "sheltered, naive and destructive" necessary?
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I'm still working on it. I'm focusing on the ability justifications first and foremost.
Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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THE GENSO NARRATOGRAPH
THE GENSO NARRATOGRAPH IS REALLLLLLLLL
THE GENSO NARRATOGRAPH IS REALLLLLLLLL
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I'm still unsure how we treat "derivative works containing WoG that directly references the mechanics and story elements as part of his statements" in terms of canon, so uhhhh
Ig I'll just start with the location descriptions? I did those a while back, but quite a few of the machine translations were difficult to understand.
Ig I'll just start with the location descriptions? I did those a while back, but quite a few of the machine translations were difficult to understand.
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GAAAAAA FUJIIII, GENSOU NARRATOGRAPH IS CANON OR OFFICIAL!?
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Unofficial, but I'm guessing we're using ZUN's statements there for WoG stuff.
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Yeah, it's unofficial, but it's got a lot of statements from ZUN and text written by him.
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Good News: Faith scaling is back on the table, giving me an easy way to scale characters to the entire cosmology.
Bad News: I can only do this because tier 0 is 100% impossible and I'm an idiot for gaslighting myself into thinking it ever was possible.
Bad News: I can only do this because tier 0 is 100% impossible and I'm an idiot for gaslighting myself into thinking it ever was possible.
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this means, no tier 0 2hu?
wdym with the Faith scaling?
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Yeah, it's not happening. Nameless gods can be restricted and have aspects, both of which instantly kill any chance of tier 0.
The idea that high tiers scale to nameless gods - who created the cosmology - via faith being tied to power, and the avatars/divine spirits of the gods have far more faith than their nameless selves (thereby making them stronger).
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I thought that was obvious. Although depending on what info we get they could reach 1-A/High 1-A.
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It should've been obvious to me, in retrospect. Oh well, 1-A is almost 100% foolproof as far as I know - then again, I am no ordinary fool.
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wait a moment, tier 0 2hu was a thing?
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Was. Now it almost definitely isn't.
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Nevermind, we might be back.
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Fuji
since you're reworking the justification for Youkai's passive fear hax and their incorporeality, are you gonna do the same with 2hu characters' acausality?
since you're reworking the justification for Youkai's passive fear hax and their incorporeality, are you gonna do the same with 2hu characters' acausality?
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The lamp she used during his fight against Cirno in GFW could count as Misc?
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Yeah. I may end up doing that tonight (for something unrelated, funnily enough).
Not sure I know what you're talking about?
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I see
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Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara
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Ohhh, gotcha. Yeah I should add that
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From the 30 second preview we got a while back, I already know it'll be peak.
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Okay, here. I may do a more detailed breakdown later, but I still need to look into the specific mechanics of history. The human village and Eientei stuff will be changed on a character-to-character basis, and nobody will scale to those who travel to Eientei (because that's stupid). Some characters will lose type 4 entirely.
- Acausality (Types 1 & 4; Unaffected by Keine erasing the human village from history[8]. Exists within the Hakurei Barrier[9], which created a world with a different flow of time[10] and different physical laws[11], where there is no defined history and only distorted versions of past events can be recalled[12]. Gensokyo[13] lacks[14] any[15] history[16], and even if history were to be created, it could easily be altered[17]. Could act normally within Eientei[18], which exists outside of time and causality[19][20])
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with current justification for being able to act normally in Eientei as Acausality type 4, yeah
it can work, I think, I'll elaborate on that in just a bit
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Hey, fuji, Since you are talking about haxes or reworks, Martial Arts hax should be reworked for those who have it? for example, Marisa's Martial Arts don't even have scans.
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Yeah idk what's up with that, although it shouldn't take too long to fix since not many characters have it (and those that do usually just have statements outright saying they're good at martial arts). In Marisa's case, there are a few scans indicating she's comparable or superior to Meiling.
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Wait this verse kinda lacks from Martial arts? Don't tell me the same thing that happens with CQC...
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Touhou has never really been about CQC. There are some good skill feats here and there, but the vast majority of them are focused on dodging, ranged combat, and accelerated development rather than throwing hands.
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I always thought that fighting spin offs and FDS really show that, (I think even Kagerou is the only character that tries to attack you hand to hand in a STG Game)
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