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Ehh, you can bring it up on the thread but I'm not too keen of how liberally we are using confidence scaling
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Lol Death Battle is making a third Goku Vs. Superman.
I imagine Superman is still winning but Death Battle just wants to do it right this time instead of throwing together an absolutely lazy mess of an argument like in the last 2.
I imagine Superman is still winning but Death Battle just wants to do it right this time instead of throwing together an absolutely lazy mess of an argument like in the last 2.
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Is this can affect Saitama's current stats?
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if you mean the current timeline, the answer is no
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Proof saitama lost his stats
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Better you give proof he mantained th
He lost his future memories, abilities, and returned back to his past self
He lost his future memories, abilities, and returned back to his past self
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He didn’t lose anything but his memories there isn’t any proof he lost his stats
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There isn't any proof he mantained his stats. The Saitama we see is literally the Saitama Pre-Garou fight, we just know they fused, but the body and existence itself is of the one pre-fight, the clothes themselves and the lack of memory indicate that.
If you have any proof of Saitama mantaining its stats despite disappearing (which does not exist), then show it.
If you have any proof of Saitama mantaining its stats despite disappearing (which does not exist), then show it.
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Not how it works we assume he lost his stuff because of what nothing there isn’t anything implying he lost his stats
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That's exactly how it works. Silence.
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But there is. He lost his memories, his whole body has disappeared and the Saitama we see is the one who just got hit by the GRB.
You made an affirmation, give proof of why Saitama would have lost his memories, his whole body would've disappeared but he would've magically mantained his strength
You made an affirmation, give proof of why Saitama would have lost his memories, his whole body would've disappeared but he would've magically mantained his strength
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Don't care, Saitama can't solo League of Legends. Cope harder.
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Seriously though the idea that Saitama kept anything from his future self is contradictory. The REASON WHY he was assimilated is BECAUSE his existence was a paradox. His continued existence would interfere with the law of causality and time, and even Saitama isn't above that (Saitama 3D btw) so he was effectively erased from existence. In the same way that Ashi stopped existing because Aku was killed in Samurai Jack or, well, the same thing happening in like 5,000 different god damn series out there. It's a common trope. To think there is ANYTHING more to it is headcanon and DOES require evidence to prove.
I think we'll probably see it referenced again in the future, like maybe something happens and Saitama regains the memories of his future self, which I only say because for some reason Genos' core didn't disappear (Genos 4D?!) but presuming he kept everything including the stats is extremely unfounded.
I think we'll probably see it referenced again in the future, like maybe something happens and Saitama regains the memories of his future self, which I only say because for some reason Genos' core didn't disappear (Genos 4D?!) but presuming he kept everything including the stats is extremely unfounded.
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I have the headcanon Genos' core didn't disappear because Saitama cared of it enough to mantain it safe, so his will overcame the rules of causality
And that, if he wanted to, he could've prevented being assimilated just by willing it, and that in the future we'll see Saitama preventing it just like in Garou fight we saw him breathing in space despite in Boros fight he thought he couldn't
And that, if he wanted to, he could've prevented being assimilated just by willing it, and that in the future we'll see Saitama preventing it just like in Garou fight we saw him breathing in space despite in Boros fight he thought he couldn't
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that isn’t any proof just cause he lost his memories doesn’t translate into stats you just assuming which is head canon
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Saitama is what ever D he wants to be
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What?
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You're the one assuming he mantained something while he did not mantain anything else.
Hell, even if you want to stretch it to their bodies fusing so their stats are added up, it still does not work because by that logic, his memories should have added up too, but they didn't.
We're not assuming anything, we're taking context and using the most obvious interpretation: he didn't mantain his memories, his body is from the past timeline, therefore, he has lost everything. Burden proof is on you to show why he mantained his strength and speed but lost everything else
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Your the one assuming he lost it which is just head canon
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Yeah exactly. It's the same reason why we go by innocent until proven guilty rather than guilty until proven innocent. There's absolutely no reason to think Saitama kept the stats when he objectively did not keep the memories as far as we currently know. The burden of proof is on whoever's claiming he did keep any stats from his future self to prove it true.
Besides does it really matter? It's not like this will change the story or how he will fare in verses battles. In the story he will inevitably catch up and surpass the future timeline version altogether regardless, and in verses battles he still just stomps or gets stomped 90% of the time either way.
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That's not true. You don't seem to comprehend that claiming he kept the stats is what requires evidence. THAT is headcanon. I have no idea how you think the opposite could ever be true.
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No it's not? The manga clearly shows that Saitama has not mantained anything from his fight, as I've pointed through the whole conversation
Instead of saying "Headcanon" to anything that does not fit your bias, show us why he should've mantained his strength when he lost everything else
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Claiming he lost should require evidence which y’all don’t have you just assume cause he memories are gone he lost his abilities
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I mean, if you consider the vast amount of strength he gained, you could even imply it'd affect scaling.
But yeah, nothing'd change except the AP value he scales to
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Yeah my wall of defense is so sturdy it bounces y’all’s head canon right off
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Last post I do regarding this topic.
Please, prove why he would've lost everything but his physical. Prove why his whole body would be his body pre-fight but his strength would be his post-fight one. Prove why he'd have lost the memories gained but not his growth. Once you do that, I may reconsider answering.
Sorry, but debates work like that, if you make a claim and proof is against you, you need to back up your point with everything, not claim that nothing implies that your point is wrong and claim it to be right just because you think so and nothing else
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Sure, but tbh I'd rather avoid the extra mountain of discussions that would be had with that rather than just saying "No" to this and keeping it at one discussion lmao.
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He didn’t really lose everything literally only his memories saitama can still do every single thing he did against garou
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Obviously he saw it in a dream (so it's real).
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Recommend avoiding talking to a brick wall. They make mediocre conversationalists.
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his copy ability that’s something he can still do at any time it was not a gained ability he learned from garou he always knew he had it he just doesn’t use cause he doesn’t want to use it he only used it when making fun of garou and when garou asked him so he has it it’s just out of character to use
his power growth obviously never left as he’s always had it since he broke his limiter
His time travel he technically could still do it if he remembered that he has the ability to time travel so it’s just an ability he doesn’t know he has
his power growth obviously never left as he’s always had it since he broke his limiter
His time travel he technically could still do it if he remembered that he has the ability to time travel so it’s just an ability he doesn’t know he has
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Agree.
Anyways God will start out 4D and Saitama's growth will become so ridiculous he transcends the dimensional barrier, and surpasses it, reaching 5D, but God grows with him, and they start an infinite loop of transcending dimensions up an infinite ladder. Trust.
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Saitama need space time manipulation to battle god tho
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If you don't have space-time manipulation God can use Tier-0+ Plot Manipulation on you.
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Watch fodder Versus become one of the strongest anime/manga verses around in 6 years.
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