A Stake Through the Heart - A Hellsing Downgrade Thread

[Deceived3596]

Time moves differently in the Balkans because of the concentrated mass of gooberism, 3 seconds equates to 3 days in actual, non ****** up time.

 

[LordGinSama]

Never said anything about physically occupying space though, did I?

"I'm walking down the street", does that mean I'm altering the fundamental metaphysical nature of the street? ******* of course not.

hmmm i don't know, perhaps read what your typing.

The point is that Schrodinger simply leaps from point A to point B (or to both at the same time, or neither)

Via thinking he's there, ignoring physical distance all together.

so the Major is talking about that and not him ******* with the fundamentals of point A and point B. He simply is or isn't in a location, he isn't doing anything to the location.

Cue Schrodinger appearing in things that don't even exist.

It does, because your only point of contention was that it was comparing physical movement to teleportation. But if they're both teleportation, then there isn't a problem, is there?

It quite literally doesn't whenever your using a flawed example which you keep going back on thus contradicting yourself.

Cool

Rad

That also applies to pretty much everyone on the SI list, so do they also get info hax? Don't go deflecting the question again.

I'm not deflecting the question, can you stop throwing around accusations for more than 3 seconds or would you cease to exist by doing so? Your question at hand makes no sense and falls in upon itself.

Different contexts, stop using random whataboutism's. They aren't Abstractions like Schrodinger, nor can the popular ones like Luffy capable of doing what Schrodinger can do with his SR.


But I do find it genuinely interesting how you continue to say I'm dodging shit whenever your dodging the very definition of Information Type 2. Not all forms need to be complex applications such as effecting the very building blocks of reality, it can be something as simple as a mundane mechanism behind an ability.

I never said SI didn't impact reality, I said that Omnipresence, Multilocation, and Immersion don't impact reality.

You quite literally said that none of those things impact reality.

no they don't lol, who the hell told you that

You keep changing your argument and words, backing them up with needless accusations of dodging questions.

And they don't because omnipresence is just the ability to exist everywhere (which does not imply you are manipulating any part of the space you occupy)

Being omnipresnt means your one with space-time.

and immersion is just existing inside dreams, stories, or illusions (which does not mean you can manipulate or alter those dreams, stories, or illusions).

The definition of the power as per the wiki page disagrees with you unfortunately.

Let me ask you this, and I want you to give me a Yes or No answer because I'm tired of you dodging basic questions.

Again, your comparison here isn't even applicable within this context so your "question." isn't even a question.

I occupy the space I live in; Does that mean that I am manipulating that space?

Are you everywhere and nowhere? Are you an abstraction of thoughts? Are you both dead and alive? Stop with your pointless complex questions fallacy that don't even apply to what I'm talking about.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Not gonna lie, omnipresence is cool and all but I don't see how this whole conversation even relates to info type 2.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Not gonna lie, omnipresence is cool and all but I don't see how this whole conversation even relates to info type 2.

That's what I'm saying

 

[LordGinSama]

Not gonna lie, omnipresence is cool and all but I don't see how this whole conversation even relates to info type 2.

It's more so SR which effects reality.

 

[LordGinSama]

That's what I'm saying

It's called proper sentence structuring and not using brain dead worthy comparisons.

 

[Crabwhale]

So much for 3 seconds smh

I will commit funny violence upon your corporeal form. Also I was at the gym.

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

I fell asleep and after checking chapters related to Schrodinger and even summation.
It doesn't fit into Info Type 2 that I can agree. I believe I became more inclined to consider it as information because the ability ties heavily into Schrodinger Cat State or quantum superposition. So I concede on it being information. Also, the scans for Concept Type 3 are only supporting statements and could mean other things than Type 3, so I do not believe it is sufficient to be Type 3. Since the character has quantum teleportation already there anyway and it's not being discussed in the CRT. then I have nothing more to add

 

[Deagonx]

As for Schrodinger… I straight up couldn’t find a source for him being made of information. The stuff about him being made of thoughts is all good and well, but I can’t even comprehend what would make him qualify for fundamental information.

So aside from nuking concept/info hax, what else does this entail? Mainly, post-Schrodinger Alucard loses his HGR and goes down to MGR since it stems from regenerating his soul/blood.

I mostly read over this thread and the arguments as a result of the RVR report, but looking at the reasoning, and resulting arguments, I am inclined to agree with this downgrade.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Alright, I'll wait for Crab to respond and then see if there's enough consensus to apply the edits.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Doesn't blood govern reality on a conceptual-scale if it's what makes up souls, minds and stuff?

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Doesn't blood govern reality on a conceptual-scale if it's what makes up souls, minds and stuff?

no lol

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Concepts are real weird ngl

 

[TheGreatJedi13]

it do be like that

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Doesn't blood govern reality on a conceptual-scale if it's what makes up souls, minds and stuff?

If it did then it would be concept type 2 but it's type 3 iirc

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

 

[Starsprite53]

I agree with the downgrade

 

[Ikelaggan]

I'm siding with the downgrade

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Bump

so sad that Crab died of ligma

 

[DaMonkeMan]

so sad that Crab died of ligma

Who the hell is Crab

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Who the hell is Crab

@Crabwhale

 

[DaMonkeMan]

@Crabwhale

Damn it you didn't get the joke

It was based off this

 

[Deceived3596]

Crab's waiting on me to give a summary of everything so he can meatride my conclusions.

I ain't giving him that satisfaction.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Unprecedented dick gobbling.

 

[Crabwhale]

Y'know I was gonna reply to this thread after going through it, but now I ain't. Enjoy eternally bumping.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Y'know I was gonna reply to this thread after going through it, but now I ain't. Enjoy eternally bumping.

I mean, it's a pretty small removal with 2 staff agreements so like

I could just apply it now but was waiting to see if you disagreed lol

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I mean, it's a pretty small removal

I mean, aside from the cat stuff, I think it's Alucard's strongest abilities and hax. So I would only say small in number of skills removed.

 

[Adem_Warlock69]

Nah, Concep Manip has Alucard as one of its examples, so that's something to change too

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

I mean, aside from the cat stuff, I think it's Alucard's strongest abilities and hax. So I would only say small in number of skills removed.

That's what I meant, yeah. We do also have a majority of regular users agreeing, and Gin won't be arguing here anymore, so I don't see much of a reason to not apply it.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Nah, Concep Manip has Alucard as one of its examples, so that's something to change too

Oh that's a good point actually, what should the example be changed to?

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Anos

Oh that's a good point actually, what should the example be changed to?

 

[Crabwhale]

Anos

 

[Theglassman12]

@Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara maybe Fate characters? They have conceptual weapons and attack conceptually iirc, that would be type 3.

 

[Robo432343]

@Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara maybe Fate characters? They have conceptual weapons and attack conceptually iirc, that would be type 3.

aren't they extremely outdated

 

[Theglassman12]

Literally when? Their pages have scans with people constantly updating them.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

@Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara maybe Fate characters? They have conceptual weapons and attack conceptually iirc, that would be type 3.

That'd be good, yeah. Do you have a specific example?

 

[Theglassman12]

Gilgamesh I suppose, he literally has an arsenal of conceptual weapons so that can be used for type 3.