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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
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Would like to report this thread. Not sure if it is report worthy, but people there simply mock others
- https://vsbattles.com/threads/er-gen-nep-nature-type-3-for-4th-step-cultivators.155293/post-5868585
- https://vsbattles.com/threads/er-gen-nep-nature-type-3-for-4th-step-cultivators.155293/post-5868580
- https://vsbattles.com/threads/er-gen-nep-nature-type-3-for-4th-step-cultivators.155293/post-5868567
- https://vsbattles.com/threads/er-gen-nep-nature-type-3-for-4th-step-cultivators.155293/post-5868592
- https://vsbattles.com/threads/er-gen-nep-nature-type-3-for-4th-step-cultivators.155293/post-5868597
Georredannea15
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I wasn't being sarcastic. It was a bit tense and I wanted to calm things down.
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I think that this seems reasonable.
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I would like to add that the person in question is still continuing this type of behavior.
He is implying that my opinion is inconsequential unless I hold a position of significant authority or influence, like DT or Ultima
This comment reflects a certain level of dismissiveness towards me. The comment come across as condescending or belittling, downplaying the importance of personal opinions in favor of a presumed consensus or hierarchy of authority.
Georredannea15
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No, no, no... Don't twist my words. Unless you are knowledgeable admin like DT or Ultima, one person's interpretation is less important than the community's interpretation and collective decision. I suggest you read the sentence again, because I didn't say that your comments are unimportant, I only said that the community's opposing comments are unimportant unless you are DT and Ultima
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Ser_Hakim_Dayne
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Reporting @The_Yellow_Topaz for her aggressive behaviours on these two threads.
Undertale:
There's some more. I do think I was not a saint in the Pokémon CRT, given the previous tension that the Undertale one has caused, but even after I have stopped being rude, she kept insulting the intelligence of all the opposition, calling everyone who disagrees with her delusional and unable to see objectivity (aka her opinion).
Undertale:
- "Listen to yourself"
- "no one is that out of their mind"
- "i have always a perfectly logical explanation to your terrible takes being factually incorrect"
- "this is mad "only my interpretation is right" vibes"
- her calling me desperate
- her saying she'll do a CRT right to oppose mine if it goes through because of the admins apparentely not reading her rebuttals
- Her saying that her argument is objectively correct in contrast to staff votes
There's some more. I do think I was not a saint in the Pokémon CRT, given the previous tension that the Undertale one has caused, but even after I have stopped being rude, she kept insulting the intelligence of all the opposition, calling everyone who disagrees with her delusional and unable to see objectivity (aka her opinion).
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Frankly, they've had multiple warnings and have been actively antagonistic against everyone.
I think, at the very least, a short ban is in order so they can calm down, if not longer.
I think, at the very least, a short ban is in order so they can calm down, if not longer.
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Not fair, my report ain't finished first, wait in line.
Eden_Warlock99
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Pretty sure most weren't official warnings tho?
The only one I recall being so was in the Pokemon thread, which happened before the UT one
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I was already about to report her but given I was already topic banned that would have been seen as spiteful, probably.
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There has never at any point been a rule, official or unofficial, for multiple reports to not be handled at once.
Please don't add superfluous messages. And yes I will keep repeating this until it's drilled into everyone's skulls.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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I'd like to defend myself.
I'm civil 9/10 times too, so this isn't even true. What
This is so tame it's not even report-worthy, it's a compilation of basically nothing burgers, it doesn't amount to anything meaningful.
This just shows indignation from me, not aggression like you're reporting.
Attacking arguments is fair game.
This isn't aggression, I simply believe their doubt is unreasonable.
This is in response of your mock earlier. Doesn't make it okay, but it was incredibly tame, you're overblowing the situation.
If you read the message you will see I said a take of Clover was lacking common sense in a take that had a very unlikely interpretation, I have no idea how you got I called the entire opposition "as not having common sense"
This is my first report, what the heck?
I'm civil 9/10 times too, so this isn't even true. What
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Only thing I will add. I warned them both (Strym and Topaz) on both threads. Strym headed my warning, while Topaz continued insulting the opposition on the Pkmn Thread.
However, to be kept in mind as well, Strym's history of reports and the recent topic ban on UT that resulted from his attitude, having accumulated two warnings since then on top.
Of great importance to consider everything.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Post #46, the warning.
Post #81, Strym mocks me.
Post #87, Strym repeats the same "you have this vibe" kind of comment he is reporting me for.
Post #96, Strym mocks me again.
"Headed my warning" is deceptive.
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You have been attacking all the time, constantly insulting my intelligence there.
You are the reason why the thread became flooded and hard to read.
You are the one attacking everyone there though.
Because you have been aggressive with me 1st.
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Again, I was not a saint, but I was simply responding to Topaz' rudeness and aggressions in the UT thread.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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Not a place for back and forths, and just like you being mocking to me first doesn't justify my actions, me "doing it first" (which I didn't) shouldn't justify yours.
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I even admitted this though.
Then after the warning of @LephyrTheRevanchist I have toned down at least.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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This makes it sound like Strym headed your warning on both threads, he did not. So I needed to clear that up.
Then please don't try to justify yourself like you did earlier.
Enough of this please, let's wait for staff to evaluate everything that has been discussed.
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Yes, we take out the last part of the second sentence to make it seem like something else entirely. And yet you called me deceptive.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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You're really making futile jabs to further clog the thread, you are staff, Lephyr. Let's stop replying altogether.
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And another accusation!
You're not doing your job well in defending yourself ngl.
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No, I'm calling you out for trying to distort my words and literally calling me a liar.
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Topaz, you are damning yourself further and further. Learn some tact and self-restraint.
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That's kinda the minimum, probably.
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Sounds good to me.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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For a first reported offense over mild banter? Could you reconsider?
I've seen people with worse and more consistent behavior get away with just a warning to their profiles
Mr. Bambu
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Topaz, you do need to learn to back off a bit. When you get warned by staff, for gods' sake, listen.
That said I do think two weeks is just a little bit harsh for this circumstance.
That said I do think two weeks is just a little bit harsh for this circumstance.
The_Yellow_Topaz
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I'm sorry! I really am!
I really tried my best to be civil even after experiencing arguments that I might've thought didn't come from a place of
genuine attempt at making ratings right
At the beginning at least, even when I didn't find arguments fair, I'd try to stay positive
I'm not gonna justify it by saying it's after a long exposure, but I've been really burned out recently due to personal life!
Take this as my final statement on my behavior, I genuinely apologized for acting that way!
I'll do my best to revert back to a more positive debater here, even if I'm antagonized,
I will also try not to antagonize anyone, either on purpose or emotionally!
I really tried my best to be civil even after experiencing arguments that I might've thought didn't come from a place of
genuine attempt at making ratings right
At the beginning at least, even when I didn't find arguments fair, I'd try to stay positive
I'm not gonna justify it by saying it's after a long exposure, but I've been really burned out recently due to personal life!
Take this as my final statement on my behavior, I genuinely apologized for acting that way!
I'll do my best to revert back to a more positive debater here, even if I'm antagonized,
I will also try not to antagonize anyone, either on purpose or emotionally!
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Mr. Bambu
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I wouldn't say dealt with.
Personally I'd be fine with a compromise of one week for Topaz.
It's alright, even two weeks is practically nothing in terms of bans. Nobody is going insane over your actions, just... drop things when you're told to drop them. Thanks.
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Alright, read the latest reports. Here's my thoughts on whether the provided evidence is bad behaviour or not.
Dread's Report
Georredannea15:
StrymULTRA's Report
The_Yellow_Topaz:
I do think that Lephyr's post was phrased in a way that could mislead people, and that Topaz was within her rights to clear that up.
Contrary to what Strym said here, they did continue acting badly after the warning as Topaz demonstrated here.
I don't think that Lephyr should've interpreted Topaz saying "this part of the sentence is deceptive" as "Lephyr is a deceptive person", that's an incredibly unkind reading.
I think Topaz's response of calling that a "futile jab to further clog the thread" isn't great. But I think that Lephyr's move to "you're distorting my words and calling me a liar" is even worse. Topaz didn't do that.
I'm in Bambu's camp of wanting a 1 week ban. There were only a few things that were barely infractions.
Marshadow was topic banned for posting a large number of low quality CRTs. Dread claimed to have warned them, but since no evidence was provided I can't back this up.
About 2 months have passed of the 3 month topic ban. Although initially, a few staff members were suggesting it should only be 1 or 2 months long.
However, this claim about not knowing about the rule was already brought up when the ban was initially discussed. Since no new information is being brought up, I don't think this ban length should be re-evaluated.
Dread's Report
Georredannea15:
- Post 1: Meh, not really.
- Post 2: No.
- Post 3: No.
- Post 1: Kinda.
- Post 2: Kinda.
- Post 1: Meh, not really.
StrymULTRA's Report
The_Yellow_Topaz:
- Post 1: No.
- Post 2: Not really.
- Post 3: Kinda.
- Post 4: No.
- Post 5: No.
- Post 6: No.
- Post 7: No.
- Post 8: Meh, a tiny bit.
- Post 9: No.
- Post 10: Yes.
- Post 11: Kinda.
I do think that Lephyr's post was phrased in a way that could mislead people, and that Topaz was within her rights to clear that up.
Contrary to what Strym said here, they did continue acting badly after the warning as Topaz demonstrated here.
I don't think that Lephyr should've interpreted Topaz saying "this part of the sentence is deceptive" as "Lephyr is a deceptive person", that's an incredibly unkind reading.
I think Topaz's response of calling that a "futile jab to further clog the thread" isn't great. But I think that Lephyr's move to "you're distorting my words and calling me a liar" is even worse. Topaz didn't do that.
I'm in Bambu's camp of wanting a 1 week ban. There were only a few things that were barely infractions.
Marshadow was topic banned for posting a large number of low quality CRTs. Dread claimed to have warned them, but since no evidence was provided I can't back this up.
About 2 months have passed of the 3 month topic ban. Although initially, a few staff members were suggesting it should only be 1 or 2 months long.
However, this claim about not knowing about the rule was already brought up when the ban was initially discussed. Since no new information is being brought up, I don't think this ban length should be re-evaluated.
