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One Piece: High 6-A downgrade Pt. 2

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Just gonna throw some scaling out there for other people who are losing their High 6-A status:

  • Drake:
    • Base: 300TT (Scales to Apoo, as he fought him in Base off-screen and was confident that he could kill him in Base, downscales from Base Yamato, blocked blows from a slightly pissed Base Zoro)
    • Zoan Form: Has an AP of 760TT (Downscales from Guernica's durability, which scales to Apoo's Boom, and he also hurt Apoo who downscales in durability from Kidd), with a likely durability of 1 PT via taking off-screen attacks from Apoo's Devil Fruit
  • Kazenbo gets downgraded to 760TT via hurting Base Yamato, although he may be 1PT via melting Yamato's Ice, I dunno.
  • Killer should be 1PT in AP via Kaifu scaling (since it scales above Zoan Kaido's normal AP and sliced Kidd's metal constructs), not to mention he overpowered Napoleon who was shown to be able to move on his own so he should be the same as Hera/Zeus and Prometheus in power. Also, Kidd thought he could help in defeating Big Meme after Prometheus saved her from drowning.
  • Until Egghead ends, Awakened Lucci should be either 760TT or 1PT. You could definitely make a case for either.
  • Greenbull when serious is 1PT via scaling to Issho and Sabo.
  • Izou is 760TT, since when he was severely wounded he still killed Maha, who overpowered Apoo and was fine after Kazenbo attacked him.
  • Rooftop Buso Zoro should also be 1 PT via Kaifu scaling and for the Hakai scene implying him to be comparable to at least Base Kidd and the durability of the other 4 Base Supernovas as a whole.
 
Eseseso said:
Just gonna throw some scaling out there for other people who are losing their High 6-A status:

  • Drake:
    • Base: 300TT (Scales to Apoo, as he fought him in Base off-screen and was confident that he could kill him in Base, downscales from Base Yamato, blocked blows from a slightly pissed Base Zoro)
    • Zoan Form: Has an AP of 760TT (Downscales from Guernica's durability, which scales to Apoo's Boom, and he also hurt Apoo who downscales in durability from Kidd), with a likely durability of 1 PT via taking off-screen attacks from Apoo's Devil Fruit
  • Kazenbo gets downgraded to 760TT via hurting Base Yamato, although he may be 1PT via melting Yamato's Ice, I dunno.
  • Killer should be 1PT in AP via Kaifu scaling (since it scales above Zoan Kaido's normal AP and sliced Kidd's metal constructs), not to mention he overpowered Napoleon who was shown to be able to move on his own so he should be the same as Hera/Zeus and Prometheus in power. Also, Kidd thought he could help in defeating Big Meme after Prometheus saved her from drowning.
  • Until Egghead ends, Awakened Lucci should be either 760TT or 1PT. You could definitely make a case for either.
  • Greenbull when serious is 1PT via scaling to Issho and Sabo.
  • Izou is 760TT, since when he was severely wounded he still killed Maha, who overpowered Apoo and was fine after Kazenbo attacked him.
  • Rooftop Buso Zoro should also be 1 PT via Kaifu scaling and for the Hakai scene implying him to be comparable to at least Base Kidd and the durability of the other 4 Base Supernovas as a whole.
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Lucci should scale off of Kaku now.
Due to the statement.
 
Eseseso said:
Killer should be 1PT in AP via Kaifu scaling (since it scales above Zoan Kaido's normal AP and sliced Kidd's metal constructs), not to mention he overpowered Napoleon who was shown to be able to move on his own so he should be the same as Hera/Zeus and Prometheus in power. Also, Kidd thought he could help in defeating Big Meme after Prometheus saved her from drowning.
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No he shouldn't. I'm assuming Zoan Kaidou's "Normal AP" is for his physical strikes which only scale to the scabbards so that's not 1PT, as for the Kaifu they scale above Kiku for cutting her arm off. Kid's metal constructs are literally just trash he picked up around Onigashima there's no way you're claiming it has 6-A durability.
 
Eminiteable said:
No he shouldn't. I'm assuming Zoan Kaidou's "Normal AP" is for his physical strikes which only scale to the scabbards so that's not 1PT, as for the Kaifu they scale above Kiku for cutting her arm off.
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That's fair.
Eminiteable said:
Kid's metal constructs are literally just trash he picked up around Onigashima there's no way you're claiming it has 6-A durability.
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When he was using a normal-sized metal arm, he could block attacks from Big Mom's Metal Homies which later were a threat to Law after he used Awakening on Bigger Mom.

Punk Rotten's durability should also scale to its physical AP.

When Kid said it was "scrap", that just meant he could put it back together again with his power since it was normal-ass metal.

He hurt Big Mom using normal metal bars with Punk Clash, so it's clear that his DF does something to the metal to make it stronger under his use.

The Kaifu could also hurt Base Post-Hao Luffy later.
 
Eseseso said:
When he was using a normal-sized metal arm, he could block attacks from Big Mom's Metal Homies which later were a threat to Law after he used Awakening on Bigger Mom.

Punk Rotten's durability should also scale to its physical AP.

When Kid said it was "scrap", that just meant he could put it back together again with his power since it was normal-ass metal.

He hurt Big Mom using normal metal bars with Punk Clash, so it's clear that his DF does something to the metal to make it stronger under his use.

The Kaifu could also hurt Base Post-Hao Luffy later.
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By threat what do you mean? Did they actually do anything or were they just a distraction?

Wait, who added "portrayed comparable to Gear 4th and Law" for punk rotten. Ain't no way comparability scaling from standing next to each other was actually accepted 😭

He said it was scrap because it was literally scrap he found around onigashima, he can put it back together sure because it wasn't important in the first place he just replaces it with more scrap.

It's normal ass metal, it's not getting 6-A durability he doesn't do anything to increase its durability.
 
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Eminiteable said:
By threat what do you mean? Did they actually do anything or were they just a distraction?
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They would've attacked him for hurting BM, but right before they could do so Kidd used his powers to make them get drawn to him and become part of his Punk Corna Dio.
Eminiteable said:
It's normal ass metal, it's not getting 6-A durability he doesn't do anything to increase its durability.
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It apparently does enough so that he could block attacks from Bigger Mom's metal homies off-screen.

And like I said above, the Kaifu still hurt Round 2 Base Luffy.
 
Eminiteable said:
It's normal ass metal, it's not getting 6-A durability he doesn't do anything to increase its durability.
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So why are we scaling those random ass rocks Lucci needed Armament to bust to H6A?
By this logic and by common sense that should have never been a justification for Lucci and yet you used it before.
 
Eseseso said:
They would've attacked him for hurting BM, but right before they could do so Kidd used his powers to make them get drawn to him and become part of his Punk Corna Dio.
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Eseseso said:
It apparently does enough so that he could block attacks from Bigger Mom's metal homies off-screen.
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Alright that's definitely not enough to scale them to Law.

Eseseso said:
And like I said above, the Kaifu still hurt Round 2 Base Luffy.
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I don't think grunting is enough to say he was damaged.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
So why are we scaling those random ass rocks Lucci needed Armament to bust to H6A?
By this logic and by common sense that should have never been a justification for Lucci and yet you used it before.
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We shouldn't and currently don't, also I never used that logic. I used it as further support for his speed rating which isn't the same as claiming luffy magically made regular rocks more durable.
 
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