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Ya this type of response just tells me u never bothered looking at Yogiri's current HDE or even the cosmology that I just linked.
Where is that a requirement? You can get 1-A without this infinite ladder.
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Yogiri, 1-A possibly high 1-A
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This is not enough. Just barely knowing it won't give you "yes I know the verse and have read it"
But you still assumed and used this type of argument or this is "I am allowed to assume but you can't assume me"
Because I am pretty you never read the novel to judge author's writing
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endlessly but it's the same shit
PrinceofPein
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those are not stacking but rather higher universes containing lower ones
even the author's reply do not agree with you and he is not even sure and his reply shows that he has not mentioned something of such in his works
it is though, the thing about 1-B is universes containing universes? yes or no
You like semantics, I will not play that with you
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Where is it said that they're banned?
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Do not pester or harass the authors of various works on social media about versus debating or character statistics. They are often bombarded by numerous questions from fans, and thus are rarely interested in giving a serious response. In addition, the statements they give to appease users are often contradictory to the feats in the stories of the works they have written. Thus, it is frowned upon to bother them over these topics. This is the only mention of it I can find.
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Is 'able to ignore the concept of dimensions' even enough of a statement to put him at 1-A?
I am no tier 1 expert but this looks like Yogiri embodies the 'Ultimate Set World' which seems to transcend the established cosmology? That seems like High 1-B to me. Or a comprimise of High 1-B, possibly 1-A.
I am no tier 1 expert but this looks like Yogiri embodies the 'Ultimate Set World' which seems to transcend the established cosmology? That seems like High 1-B to me. Or a comprimise of High 1-B, possibly 1-A.
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It's saying that no amount of dimensions are relevant to his existence. That seems to qualify according to the FAQ
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Yeah, like I said, twitter questions and the like lol.
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Abstractly_a_Protagonist
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I share the same sentiment with @NIK_FARIS here.
LN is 1.7 times more than WN, and we were resolved in waiting for 3 months to wait before making a new upgrade for Yogurt.
So I'm currently neutral on the decision for now.
Although I said that, it is all depends on the staff whether to accept current evidence as sufficient or not. I, of course will follow what decision transpiring here.
LN is 1.7 times more than WN, and we were resolved in waiting for 3 months to wait before making a new upgrade for Yogurt.
So I'm currently neutral on the decision for now.
Although I said that, it is all depends on the staff whether to accept current evidence as sufficient or not. I, of course will follow what decision transpiring here.
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Oh god. Honestly just get the info from the light novel and things might be more concrete with the ultimate ensemble.
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Ultimate Ensemble at its Lowest is Low 1-A; from the past threads like for The Downstreamers. Updated: As it stands, we currently rate this type of structure at Low 1-A to 1-A, as seen from this profile, and this thread. It can range from Low 1-A to Tier 0 with enough context.
I could see 1-A being valid from stacking dimensions being unreachable to Yogiri; existing outside the concept of dimensions should be tier 1-A, similar to what is described in the tiering system FAQ. I think it's fair that the author uses dimensions validity as higher dimensions given the evidence like the abyss world, 3-D space being mentioned, and UEG's fight, in the series.
There was supporting evidence UEG can destroy everything, which would include the Ultimate Set of Worlds or Ultimate Ensemble of worlds being just a dream to Yogiri.
- 「君が死ねば、世界が滅ぶ。そんなことを言わなければ、あるいはこうなってはなかったのかもしれない。でもまあ、それはそれでどうにかなったのかな。高遠夜霧こそが究極集合世界を規定する存在なのだから、逆にあれが死んでしまうほうが大問題だよ」
- 究極集合世界 (究極集合 - Ultimate Ensemble): https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/数学的宇宙仮説
I could see 1-A being valid from stacking dimensions being unreachable to Yogiri; existing outside the concept of dimensions should be tier 1-A, similar to what is described in the tiering system FAQ. I think it's fair that the author uses dimensions validity as higher dimensions given the evidence like the abyss world, 3-D space being mentioned, and UEG's fight, in the series.
There was supporting evidence UEG can destroy everything, which would include the Ultimate Set of Worlds or Ultimate Ensemble of worlds being just a dream to Yogiri.
- One can say UEG and some powerful gods were killed after reaching a certain level where they could destroy the Ultimate Set of worlds/Ultimate Ensemble or all worlds: https://ncode.syosetu.com/n5691dd/239/
- At first, it could seem vague since Kouryu didn't seem to speak in absolute, but it seems clear that Ultimate Ensemble exists in verse with clear text or clear raws in Volume 14.
- Gods like UEG tier 1 can be handled in its own threads, I guess.
- At first, it could seem vague since Kouryu didn't seem to speak in absolute, but it seems clear that Ultimate Ensemble exists in verse with clear text or clear raws in Volume 14.
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If this is the case, then I don't have a problem with Yogiri being Low 1A - 1A. High 1A probably wouldn't work at this point, though.
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Agree with the 1A neutral on High 1A . It would be good if you wait till the last volume comes out.
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Will this thread just be open until the actual translation basically?
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Bruh, this is nut.
I disagree. Because this is just tier Low 1-A.
I disagree. Because this is just tier Low 1-A.
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Ok, we already got one Staff vote. Don't know if one more would do the trick given the nature of this upgrade.
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Do you mean that the ultimate set is just a dream to Yogiri’s true form? The dream part is towards UEG as the subject.
Though the following has been stated; and given the statement below. Like I mentioned in my past threads, UEG isn’t the first one to try to erase everything
It’s not merely the case of “infinite time” as space is also regarded as infinite. Mokomoko who’s regarded as a high-level spirit and has access to upper-information of the ‘Sea’ is knowledgeable about the verse. When they were faced with someone who can manipulate space and time, she said the following about the concepts;
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Also in Volume 14 raw, there may be supporting evidence that the local residents of the universe/world which Mitsuki/Great Sage is dreaming of, has a r/f difference. Though in this case, it isn’t restricted to one universe.
[Do note that the following is a rough translation from DeepL, more accurate translations are appreciated]
[Do note that the following is a rough translation from DeepL, more accurate translations are appreciated]
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Though my input in the main subject at hand would be to wait for the last volume. I can already form some supporting arguments.
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Is there any evidence from inside the universe other than the author's word? If I remember correctly, in 1B crt, yogiri and another person had an eternal war by destroying dimensions. This shows that the author's words contradict the novel, and from my point of view, we also accept the author's words only in the parts that he supports, where they overlap with the content of the universe in question. I would appreciate if there are supporting novel reviews that confirm what the author is saying.
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Questions and Answers particularly in this context are usually not taken factual in reference the verse itself. This is basically due to fans and specifically power scaling fans asking and bombarding Authors with questions beneficiary in upscaling the verse and the Author basically give replies not really reflective on the verse or even taken into proper consideration by the author himself. It's an act of pleasing the fans which is why the death of author ideology is available.
Oh, then I almost forgot. The upgrade (1-A) is fine if there's an inverse implication of it already.
You're insinuating "Ultimate Set" pays respect to the presumably Infinite Higher worlds?
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It's not Yogiri.
It's Toichiro Vs UEG.
You can check the cosmo page for their battle.
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I agree, my suggestion is to close this thread before the official translated novel is released instead of using the author's statement, although I have a feeling that yogiri will be 1A in the next novel later
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I agree with the 1A scaling based on the cosmology of the verse itself disagree with H1A tho, but in reality it’s best to actually wait for the last volume given that would’ve been better
This is just rushing matters when there’s just one more volume to go
This is just rushing matters when there’s just one more volume to go
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I will write down all votes later, nps
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Please try to be respectful to other members here, @ShivaShakti . I deleted your message above to God900.
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I disagree.
1- The question asked is a guiding question. Although it is official, this has never happened in the verse.
2-The question asked is "whether yogiri beyond the all concepts of dimension", but the author does not specify this in his answer, only says that universes are like a dimensional structures. And yogiri is beyond these.
1- The question asked is a guiding question. Although it is official, this has never happened in the verse.
2-The question asked is "whether yogiri beyond the all concepts of dimension", but the author does not specify this in his answer, only says that universes are like a dimensional structures. And yogiri is beyond these.
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Correction, the author says dimensions are part of some universes and other universes may not have them.
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So you know what I mean, The question asked and the answer given are very different. Perhaps the "dimensions" in the author's mind was a universes.
In short, the question asked and the answer given are very different.
It is also a question-guiding question.
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Well there is a scan about type 4 multiverse in the novel. So I doubt there can be contradiction but maybe.
It's not Twitter question but a interview questions that are normally asked, it may seems power scaling related to power scaler mindset like of ourselves. It's coincidence.
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No. Kanji used was strictly referring to mathematical dimensions in context.
While this implies usage of dimensions as dimensional space as dimensions are elements of one universe.
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Where? I didn't see it in the OP
No, Twitter or anywhere else doesn't matter. The question asked was asked in a guiding manner to the author. The author is stuck in a "yes - no" dichotomy.
But the worst thing is that he answered the question in a very different way than was asked.
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