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Top 10 Strongest Non-Smurfs for every tier continued (again)
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TheKingStrategist13
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Regardless, if someone wants to push for Shulk > Sora here, I suggest using a less incomplete thread for such.
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@TheKingStrategist13 Yeah because Sora literally has no answer to Shulk's passive fate hax, a thread not concluding doesn't mean the results in said thread aren't final, especially when a thread being a mismatch for how much of a stomp it is further proves the results being a decisive win for a character.
@Bobsican by all means make a rematch for Shulk and Sora if you think Sora can win now
@Bobsican by all means make a rematch for Shulk and Sora if you think Sora can win now
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You mean when he was learning how to use The Monado and is unaware of how these abilities are showing up? Only to then find out after Alvis just pulls the perfect power to counter the threat at hand that you can do that by just willing it to happen and then it will.
When Shulk has mastered the Monado he has shown to pull abilities out of his ass just like Alvis.
Though I'm gonna go change the debate to that Shulk Vs Sora thread since this isn't the place for it.
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Alte is 4th place
Bobsican
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That'd be appreciated, yeah, anyways, here's the thread.
IMO at worst they incon, but eh.
IMO at worst they incon, but eh.
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Than he is able to gain any ability in existence regardless of him showing of being able to gain said ability? Because this would mean that his RE would be limitless, which is the definition of NLF. No matter if he was shown to be able to gain abilities in the fly, him getting any ability that he was not shown to use would be NLF.
I am not arguing about this specific fight, but about RE being able to gain any ability, which is so NLF that I don't think I have to explain why. If that's how his RE currently works, than a revision must be done, but this isn't the place to talk about it so I will drop the argument for now.
TheKingStrategist13
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Thankfully for us, Bob has recently made a thread just to tackle that.
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Question, how exactly would time be 4D if time itself is a single dimension?
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The standard we adhere to is that spacetime is 4 dimensions, 3 spatial and 1 temporal, hence why the standard for being Low 2-C involves destroying time as well as space and why immeasurable speed requires the ability to run through time as a prerequisite
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Quick Question, how does Sora not just lose to Ainchase passively eeing reality as a whole, I don't see aca type 1 or smth of the sort or the ability to act within a nonexistent void on his page, so he just gets his past ee'd and gets undone, but even if he does I do not think he has a proper way to do anything inside of the nonexistent void that would be left of reality after ainchase is done with it
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@Expectro2000xxx hear me out...
What if I proposed Johnny Test for the 9-A, 7-C, and 7-A categories?
What if I proposed Johnny Test for the 9-A, 7-C, and 7-A categories?
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RandomGuy2345
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We're doing Top 10 here. I'm not trying to get Johnny up to the top spot lol.
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I'd be surprised if Illidan didn't lose to a bunch of characters in 7-A TBH lol
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I see. My bad i read it wrong. Anyway as for current profile Jerga stomps Alte.
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9A has been talked about numerous times and it was still not updated lmao. For one, Haruna lost to Isaac, so she should be moved down a spot and Isaac added
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Also Ainz just exists and likely sweeps everyone under The Hero lol
RandomGuy2345
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Like, don't get me wrong, Illidan is damn strong and skilled, but he's not like a god-tier who's unbeatable, cause, like, beating MHA isn't exactly some super big feat lol
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And Isaac literally passively nukes and has so much upscaling from his 9-A feat that I wouldn't be surprised if his existing or shooting once would remove Johnny from the face of the earth, let alone his 11+ ways of ressing that reach mid-godly levels, or his long long long list of shit that would just merkAnd now you got Johnny Test to deal with.
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Are these nukes hax?
Cause, ya know, I AM advocating for Ainz to get on the list and he has Low 7-C dura
RandomGuy2345
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I should've put a "/j" after my comment...
Like I said, I'm not trying to argue that Johnny should be #1, I'm arguing for Top 10 here.
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I mean, if hes given prep time hes a 7-A with high 6-A magic, that would get him pretty far
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Yes, but that's spacetime (a space-time continuum) and you literally said that time manipulation would be 4D, that is not true at all.
You quite literally debunked your previous claim.
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Issue is there's no prep unless it gets them into the tier, so Illidan wouldn't get prep
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He resists EE on a type 1 concept and type 2 info level on at least 27 layers and 1 ResNeg layer.
Anyways, Sora has "true" flight and can still travel across other universes or similar, he also resists time manip a lot as the above.
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Time is considered 4-D yes, not sure how that debunks it at all
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Are we allowed to use 9-A+ characters?
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Then what is stopping Henry from just passively retrying until he can beat Johnny?And now you got Johnny Test to deal with.
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i'm pretty sure you could since its still a 9-A also i'm pretty sure Snatcher is above Haruna in 9-A since a VS thread was made about it.
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If so, then what about this lad?
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Ainz thinks death lolIf so, then what about this lad?
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Yes, I am not arguing he beats Sora in the present, I am saying Sora has no way to live past his past self getting ee'd given his lack of aca type 1 or something resembling it, sure he can resist EE on the informational and conceptual level, but that doesn't cover historical/timeline EE.
1)Flight, movement, and a lot of other stuff in general, require time and space to function, something the battlefield would no longer have after this
2)If this is for the 2-B ends, sure
If this is for the 2-A ones, however, to my knowledge of KH it doesn't have above baseline 2-A range so those places would still get caught up in the cosmology nuke so it doesn't matter
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AI think others from dbh to level 2-A should also enter.
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Well I would actually say she stomps Jerga if it wasn't for abstract stuff. In which case Alte has passive lightning barrier still so even if she can't affect him directly he also couldn't bypass her lightning aura, so inconclusive as the profiles stand.
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Time is the 4th dimension, not a 4D thing in and of itself.
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Isn't SpongeBob way more haxxy? lolIf so, then what about this lad?
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