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Only agree with it if @Planck69 creates that scansNah dw, it'll be ancient runes instead
They're 1 and 2, respectively on the all tier list. For good reason too, Gao Chuan in his Surpasser (Penultimate) key is 6-D, with H1-A hax and resistances. Some noticeable hax is NEP2 with all aspects + more I'm not sure about, Paraconsistent Physiology Type 3, Acausality Type 5, and High Godly Regeneration. Shallow Vernal is also 6-D in her Quasi-Omnipotent key with 1-A smurf.As for Gao Chuan and Shallow Vernal I’d need to read their profile or be given an overview
Isn't Vernal a 1-A smurf? She probably gets ahead on that alone.Bro so where do we GoW put in list?
They prolly outhax Doom, Instant Death.
What does KD have?
Dt they can interact with Kuro/Vernal for their plot based AE so it would be incon/win for girls depending of abilities they have
Pegasus told us she isn't Smurf in her 6D keyHonestly, I do not believe that KD can interact with Kuro since she is a smurf...
IIRC I was told Kuro had around 4 layers. Xenoblade has 40+ with a massive quantity of hax. Sonic might need to be swapped over though. I could’ve sworn they didn’t have that many layers and if Kuro has 4 layers of hax that’s unresisted then I don’t see why he would win. Seems like incompetency on my part.May I also question why Sonic and Xenoblade are above Kuro?
GOW definitely outhaxxes ID and Doom. They have more layers. IIRC ID had about 5 as for Doom I’m not too sure. Doom probably has around 3-5 layers if I were to take a reasonable guess. Also what’s KD abbreviated for?Bro so where do we GoW put in list?
They prolly outhax Doom, Instant Death.
What does KD have?
Dt they can interact with Kuro/Vernal for their plot based AE so it would be incon/win for girls depending of abilities they have
Yeah Arale has been pretty vacant. Shes had no changes or anything like that I’ve only been told that she will soon once Micah locks in but other than that she remains as is. I think it’s honestly just an incon so I can see joint second place for Kratos and Arale? Xenoblade likely remains first since they’re just layer mogging everyone else. As for Chaos should I separate her from ‘GOW characters’ or keep her within it? It makes more sense to keep her labelled as such since GOW as a whole is quite haxxed and we’re using 3 representatives of each verse.Arale and Kratos was an incon 3 years ago, when both were Low 1-C, and the latter has grown a lot can't say about the former since I'm not familiar with any changes for her.
Chaos is also a pretty heavy contender cause of her All Aspects NEP 2.
Kingdom Hearts, you put them above other verses, so i was asking reasoning(since I didn't track thread whatsover)GOW definitely outhaxxes ID and Doom. They have more layers. IIRC ID had about 5 as for Doom I’m not too sure. Doom probably has around 3-5 layers if I were to take a reasonable guess. Also what’s KD abbreviated for?
We might need Bobsican to clarify NGL. I heard that they lost their 27-28 layers but apparently they were under the process of gaining it back or HAD gained it back. Assuming they have they’d rank pretty high, IIRC they also have some type of physiology or whatnot that make it so that ID can’t interact with “hearts” was it? They probably incon with ID or beat them outright. As for the others they aren’t in order I pretty much just slapped them in and decided I’d look at their profiles thoroughly on another day and decide from thereKingdom Hearts, you put them above other verses, so i was asking reasoning(since I didn't track thread whatsover)
Kingdom Hearts.IIRC I was told Kuro had around 4 layers. Xenoblade has 40+ with a massive quantity of hax. Sonic might need to be swapped over though. I could’ve sworn they didn’t have that many layers and if Kuro has 4 layers of hax that’s unresisted then I don’t see why he would win. Seems like incompetency on my part.
GOW definitely outhaxxes ID and Doom. They have more layers. IIRC ID had about 5 as for Doom I’m not too sure. Doom probably has around 3-5 layers if I were to take a reasonable guess. Also what’s KD abbreviated for?
Within it. Which is why I am a bit unsure how this will work cause at a glance, her NEP 2 + EE mogs all of non-smurf, even with Shulk and co. having better layers than Kratos and the rest of GoW. Also, in around 22 hrs, Kratos and co. will be Immeausrable across 2 time dimensions.Yeah Arale has been pretty vacant. Shes had no changes or anything like that I’ve only been told that she will soon once Micah locks in but other than that she remains as is. I think it’s honestly just an incon so I can see joint second place for Kratos and Arale? Xenoblade likely remains first since they’re just layer mogging everyone else. As for Chaos should I separate her from ‘GOW characters’ or keep her within it? It makes more sense to keep her labelled as such since GOW as a whole is quite haxxed and we’re using 3 representatives of each verse.
(Just to clarify to everyone else I’m focusing on the non Smurf list I’ll give priority to the Smurf one once I’ve adjusted the non Smurf slots. I’m almost home and will apply changes from there).
GOW probably take the number one spot then? I think that’s the easiest thing to do here. Just to be sure, is the NEP2 + EE combo passive? We might also need a XB expert here like @JoshSSJGod. I heard they have some busted ability that makes it hard to interact with them let alone perceive into their presence. I’ll try ask him to clarify his stance on his message wall and we will see from there.Kingdom Hearts.
Within it. Which is why I am a bit unsure how this will work cause at a glance, her NEP 2 + EE mogs all of non-smurf, even with Shulk and co. having better layers than Kratos and the rest of GoW. Also, in around 22 hrs, Kratos and co. will be Immeausrable across 2 time dimensions.
Her true form is a 1-C void that just reduces everything back to Chaos i.e. herself i.e. NEP 2 in all aspects + spacetime + history.GOW probably take the number one spot then? I think that’s the easiest thing to do here. Just to be sure, is the NEP2 + EE combo passive? We might also need a XB expert here like @JoshSSJGod. I heard they have some busted ability that makes it hard to interact with them let alone perceive into their presence. I’ll try ask him to clarify his stance on his message wall and we will see from there.
Let me know once they're 6D so I can add them onto the list. I updated my list for now but there might need to be some corrections but I think it's decent so far, I'll work from the upper characters then work my way downWelp... tensura will be here soon...
I think all profiles were updatedLet me know once they're 6D so I can add them onto the list. I updated my list for now but there might need to be some corrections but I think it's decent so far, I'll work from the upper characters then work my way down
Pretty sure they already are?Let me know once they're 6D so I can add them onto the list. I updated my list for now but there might need to be some corrections but I think it's decent so far, I'll work from the upper characters then work my way down
Ready for round 2? (Tensura vs GoW)...snip
is this Dr Slump Arale?I think Arale might incon with Tensura characters from reading her profile
Dr Slump?I think Arale might incon with Tensura characters from reading her profile
Yep since DBF Arale is a tier aboveis this Dr Slump Arale?
What about her plot HGR? I only took a skim through and for me to get deeper insight I'd probably need to proofread her profile again.Don't think so, no interaction, no AE1 that Tensura doesn't interact with
I'm not too familiar with Kuro's profile but I do see plot AE, NEP and plot manip itself. I'm pretty sure Arale resists plot manipulation as a whole and plot erasure IIRC. Is there anything that I'm missing? I don't think Arale has any conceptual manipulation, I'm using the find feature on Google and I can't seem to find any traces of it but sometimes that feature is inaccurate so I could be wrong. Arale also has acausality and multilocation and are apparently always time travelling. Her dopplegangers can also enter some white space which requires plot NPI to interact with and I'm guessing if that isn't in the equation you would need range to reach her.ro Dr Slump would barely touch anyone from GoW and Tensura, I would say she probably would get soloed by Kuro too.
How?I think Arale might incon with Tensura characters from reading her profile
You do know that HGR aspects only allow you to regenerate from the destruction of that aspect?What about her plot HGR? I only took a skim through and for me to get deeper insight I'd probably need to proofread her profile again.
Kuro has AE on Cm1 too, plus other metahaxes(this goes to another characters well)Yep since DBF Arale is a tier above
What about her plot HGR? I only took a skim through and for me to get deeper insight I'd probably need to proofread her profile again.
I'm not too familiar with Kuro's profile but I do see plot AE, NEP and plot manip itself. I'm pretty sure Arale resists plot manipulation as a whole and plot erasure IIRC. Is there anything that I'm missing? I don't think Arale has any conceptual manipulation, I'm using the find feature on Google and I can't seem to find any traces of it but sometimes that feature is inaccurate so I could be wrong. Arale also has acausality and multilocation and are apparently always time travelling. Her dopplegangers can also enter some white space which requires plot NPI to interact with and I'm guessing if that isn't in the equation you would need range to reach her.
Yeah I probably wont add her. I'll only add her once her profile is revamped.But tbh it is better to not include arale here given her profile is preety much outdated and Micah is planning to overhaul it with new abilities
She still loses at least to GHS. The omnipresent across a crapton of structures with 2 timelines and omniscient guy. Who will just nuke her before she can get thereThe reason for incon is not that she can beat them it is the fact that arale has accausality type 3 and there are multiple if not countless version of herself that are constantly in the state of time travel and can replace the original one on the battlefield with all her info
Now this ability of countless versions of arale time travelling simultaneously to always strike first or know what's going to happen to her in future meaning she could preety much just go outside of plot itself and into white space inorder to interact with arale here you would preety much need plot based npi from here arale can also freely use her plot based haxs
Fair enough but like i said there are countless version of her exists across countless 1C timelines and they are simultaneously time travelling so they are aware of there fate and can just simply go to white spaceShe still loses at least to GHS. The omnipresent across a crapton of structures with 2 timelines and omniscient guy. Who will just nuke her before she can get there
As I have mentioned before versions of arale that are time travelling would know what happened to her and take action accordingly and just exit the plot itselfAnd there's a high chance Rimuru and Velda can do the same, just nuke the local 1-C structure, killing all her versions simultaneously
Cool. The GHS is still encompassing all thatFair enough but like i said there are countless version of her exists across countless 1C timelines and they are simultaneously time travelling so they are aware of there fate and can just simply go to white space
The timelines are nuked, what are they even time travelling through?As I have mentioned before versions of arale that are time travelling would know what happened to her and take action accordingly and just exit the plot itself
i will remind you of aca3 negation via imaginary spaceAnd there's a high chance Rimuru and Velda can do the same, just nuke the local 1-C structure, killing all her versions simultaneously
The arales are independent of each other but can simultaneously replace with all the info of previous one,does GHS omnipresence encompasses countless 1C structures again this like the second hypertimeline I am talking aboutCool. The GHS is still encompassing all that
Meaning they die at the same "time"
The action would be taken before timelines are nuked tensura,as i have said there are like countless version of her time travelling so exiting the plot is happening before the action of nuking timeline would be doneThe timelines are nuked, what are they even time travelling through?
Infinite 1-C structures with 2 timelinesThe arales are independent of each other but can simultaneously replace with all the info of previous one,does GHS omnipresence encompasses countless 1C structures again this like the second hypertimeline I am talking about
They don't know the timelines (2 of them) are getting nuked before they are though? How will they?The action would be taken before timelines are nuked tensura as i have said there are like countless version of her time travelling so exiting the plot is happening before the action of nuking timeline would be dothem
If it's infinite 1C structures and accausality neg fair enoughInfinite 1-C structures with 2 timelines
And the space between them
They don't know the timelines (2 of them) are getting nuked before they are though? How will they?
Plus, as berga reminded me above, they have Aca3 negation
They wouldn't know about the nuke