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Speaking of warriors their profile abilities should be bold and sorted out by allegiance.
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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AP wise, it varies depending on wielder, but it has a set durability of 2-C due to its construction alone. Blade of Artemis is a different story, that weapon was legit Tier 2 from the ground up.
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Ohh that
Issue don't fury also downscale to kratos who should be >> them?(things like ares deal alone gave him near olympian power and shit)
Tho i may be wrong
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They're already sorted out by Alleigance. Neutral weapons scale to all alleigances. War Hammer of Atlas is a neutral weapon.
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Furies are the ones who have the Tier 5/4 feats. Kratos has the Tier 7 feat, with a potential 7-A feat for Furies via creating the Spartan backdrop.
Furies would downscale on the Tier 7 side, but not by a lot, while Kratos would upscale from the Tier 5/4 side, but again, not by a lot. Tier 5/4 is already in a "likely/possibly" scenario so it isn't that much of a conflicting mess.
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I guess it could work I suppose. I'll look for the calc.
Redeemed Warriors literally fight against each other wielding Zeus's Olympian Lightning, which is even stronger and more potent than Siren Lightning TBF.
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Oh mb then
I was thinking he was trynna scale the champions strongest weapons to furies hence why suggested the warriors reaching 5a to 4c With specific weapons
Edit:Nvm this I said that just as that message was edited
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Also shouldn't That be calced If a video With the mfs moving in comparasion to the ones using that essence is found?
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I mean the disk world, too.
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Oh don't recall the disk being inf too
If That true interseting
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I find the "infinite disk" argument a big weird too, the landmass is definitely finite but the sea for some reason stretches beyond that. The skies are definitely infinite tho, they're not restricted to the disk itself.
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Mortal World's universe is considered infinite too. The Mortal Flat plain is whatever, but sky is a different story.
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Yeah the disk world is finite while everything else surrounding it is infinite, it's kinda like nirn and mundus from tes.
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Only characters that should really be FTL are Castor and Pollux, and Kratos as per WoG. I've seen the Essence of Hyperion shots, and the characters really don't make a good attempt to keep up with the dashing dudes, and the only one who can actually properly counter said dash is... well, Kratos (But by that point he's already Zeus level so whatever).
Isn't Nirn considered to be spherical?
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Tough sell. Garm and Nidhogg both have similar abilities but Garm is straight up unkillable, Nidhogg isn't, Jorm might get left in the dust due to having no resistance to Space-Time Manip. Garm and Nidhogg are also much smaller and thus are considerably more mobile and agile to boot.
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I was more so referring to Nirn being finite in size while everything else around it is infinite.
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Garm > jormuggandarr > nidhogg If the fight is to Death
Jormuggandarr > garm > nidhogg if temporal ko counts for the winner
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I mean in like those little box formats.
But I suppose I care more about the bold part, as the links in their page are kinda tricky to read through. All the Gods as well.
If the Tier 4 & 5 feats won't be used straight up (which I think they should) I think we should ditch tier 7 for Kratos and The Furies and have 6-A at least rating for the Hammer of Atlas shenanigans.
That too.
That clip I shared a few tabs back looked kinda like dude side stepped it Tbh. Might have to watch that one again in slow mo. Perhaps it could be calced.
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blud really attempted a biggest opponent competion
When in doubt, remember that only Asura's Wrath surpasses in terms of sheer scale compared to this:
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Oh yes. But could a case be made for the RW to be tier 2 since they have it as well?
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Starkaor then Surtr I'd say
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Too bad it'd end up as calc-stacking. We tried that route once. Didn't work so great.
Closest other example you can try is the Titan-to-water ocean depth ratio thing but that's even more complicated and I don't even wanna fathom where that goes.
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Only with the weapon itself? Yeah, Spear of Destiny and Blade of Artemis would be Tier 2 straight up (As much as it pains me to see the Spear being butchered in terms of appearance in Ascension). Blade of Olympus is a tiny bit finicky, as is the Nemean Cestus, as those actually rely on the wielder's strength to mean anything significant.
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Even with Laufey wielding the Axe, Starkaðr would still be on top, not even Thor dared to take him on all by himself. So that pretty much leaves him as bait for the Brother Kings.
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Not in real-time tho. Asura's wrath boss fight involved a lot of cut-scene.
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btw how does downscale and upscale actually work ?
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In Tier 2? Pretty much not at all simply because of how Tier 2 works
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i mean in general for every tiers. I need to understand the theory behind it.
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I just remember in OBD forum they explained the basic of powerscaling work.
assume the fight only involve bare-handed physical strength
C > B > A = A < B < C
assume the fight only involve bare-handed physical strength
C > B > A = A < B < C
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In general it is tricky because it relies on case-by-case and demonstration of the superior party's strength over the weaker one, and how well the weaker party can stand up to the stronger one. It's not always clear cut as to how it should be handled TBF.
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that's not speed though
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They are stated to be not be as fast as the twins in the same scan and then is implied kratos is as well Faster than them
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It absolutely is. Refer to the Rage section where it verbatim states that Rage also gives Kratos an edge not just in AP but also in speed, response time and overall capabilities.
"Izzy: I think you need to consider Kratos's fuel of rage as an asset that the other gods and creatures/characters don't possess. It gives him an advantage in lots of physical things, like response time, strength, speed, etc."
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Speed is a function of power in GoW.
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