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AP wise, it varies depending on wielder, but it has a set durability of 2-C due to its construction alone. Blade of Artemis is a different story, that weapon was legit Tier 2 from the ground up.Why blades of chaos by default be 5A-4C?
Ohh thatFuries created a dimension with moon and sun in it
They're already sorted out by Alleigance. Neutral weapons scale to all alleigances. War Hammer of Atlas is a neutral weapon.Speaking of warriors their profile abilities should be bold and sorted out by allegiance.
Furies are the ones who have the Tier 5/4 feats. Kratos has the Tier 7 feat, with a potential 7-A feat for Furies via creating the Spartan backdrop.Ohh that
Issue don't fury also downscale to kratos who should be >> them?(things like ares deal alone gave him near olympian power and shit)
I guess it could work I suppose. I'll look for the calc.Eh I think we should use it. We should also have the warriors reach 5-A and 4-C with certain weapons like the blade that was created to rival the blades of chaos.
Redeemed Warriors literally fight against each other wielding Zeus's Olympian Lightning, which is even stronger and more potent than Siren Lightning TBF.Along with some further speed justifications for FTL for being able to react to the Essence of Hyperion. If that doesn't cut it they should be MHS+ at least for being able to react to the sirens lightning.
Oh mb thenFuries are the ones who have the Tier 5/4 feats. Kratos has the Tier 7 feat, with a potential 7-A feat for Furies via creating the Spartan backdrop.
Also shouldn't That be calced If a video With the mfs moving in comparasion to the ones using that essence is found?Along with some further speed justifications for FTL for being able to react to the Essence of Hyperion
I mean the disk world, too.I think he meant the greek without taking the inf sky bs in consideration
Oh don't recall the disk being inf tooI mean the disk world, too.
I find the "infinite disk" argument a big weird too, the landmass is definitely finite but the sea for some reason stretches beyond that. The skies are definitely infinite tho, they're not restricted to the disk itself.I could be misremembering if it's seen as infinite or not, but if we do it's always been weird to me since it has an edge in the novels.
Mortal World's universe is considered infinite too. The Mortal Flat plain is whatever, but sky is a different story.nvm, i was mistaken. it's the underworld that's considered infinite
Only characters that should really be FTL are Castor and Pollux, and Kratos as per WoG. I've seen the Essence of Hyperion shots, and the characters really don't make a good attempt to keep up with the dashing dudes, and the only one who can actually properly counter said dash is... well, Kratos (But by that point he's already Zeus level so whatever).Along with some further speed justifications for FTL for being able to react to the Essence of Hyperion.
Isn't Nirn considered to be spherical?Yeah the disk world is finite while everything else surrounding it is infinite, it's kinda like nirn and mundus from tes.
Tough sell. Garm and Nidhogg both have similar abilities but Garm is straight up unkillable, Nidhogg isn't, Jorm might get left in the dust due to having no resistance to Space-Time Manip. Garm and Nidhogg are also much smaller and thus are considerably more mobile and agile to boot.Garm vs Jormungandarr vs Nidhogg?
I was more so referring to Nirn being finite in size while everything else around it is infinite.Isn't Nirn considered to be spherical?
Garm > jormuggandarr > nidhogg If the fight is to DeathGarm vs Jormungandarr vs Nidhogg?
Ah.I was more so referring to Nirn being finite in size while everything else around it is infinite.
I mean in like those little box formats.They're already sorted out by Alleigance. Neutral weapons scale to all alleigances. War Hammer of Atlas is a neutral weapon.
If the Tier 4 & 5 feats won't be used straight up (which I think they should) I think we should ditch tier 7 for Kratos and The Furies and have 6-A at least rating for the Hammer of Atlas shenanigans.Furies are the ones who have the Tier 5/4 feats. Kratos has the Tier 7 feat, with a potential 7-A feat for Furies via creating the Spartan backdrop.
Furies would downscale on the Tier 7 side, but not by a lot, while Kratos would upscale from the Tier 5/4 side, but again, not by a lot. Tier 5/4 is already in a "likely/possibly" scenario so it isn't that much of a conflicting mess.
That too.Redeemed Warriors literally fight against each other wielding Zeus's Olympian Lightning, which is even stronger and more potent than Siren Lightning TBF
That clip I shared a few tabs back looked kinda like dude side stepped it Tbh. Might have to watch that one again in slow mo. Perhaps it could be calced.Only characters that should really be FTL are Castor and Pollux, and Kratos as per WoG. I've seen the Essence of Hyperion shots, and the characters really don't make a good attempt to keep up with the dashing dudes, and the only one who can actually properly counter said dash is... well, Kratos (But by that point he's already Zeus level so whatever)
blud really attempted a biggest opponent competion
Oh yes. But could a case be made for the RW to be tier 2 since they have it as well?Blade of Artemis is a different story, that weapon was legit Tier 2 from the ground up.
Starkaor then Surtr I'd sayQuestion since seems like with leviathian axe laufey the strongest giant
Who is the strongest giant if we exclude the axe
Too bad it'd end up as calc-stacking. We tried that route once. Didn't work so great.what if we use the Pegasus Mach 15 feat to calc the size of the Greek world , and use it to get a size for the greek world
Only with the weapon itself? Yeah, Spear of Destiny and Blade of Artemis would be Tier 2 straight up (As much as it pains me to see the Spear being butchered in terms of appearance in Ascension). Blade of Olympus is a tiny bit finicky, as is the Nemean Cestus, as those actually rely on the wielder's strength to mean anything significant.Oh yes. But could a case be made for the RW to be tier 2 since they have it as well?
Even with Laufey wielding the Axe, Starkaðr would still be on top, not even Thor dared to take him on all by himself. So that pretty much leaves him as bait for the Brother Kings.Question since seems like with leviathian axe laufey the strongest giant
Who is the strongest giant if we exclude the axe
When in doubt, remember that only Asura's Wrath surpasses in terms of sheer scale compared to this:
In Tier 2? Pretty much not at all simply because of how Tier 2 worksbtw how does downscale and upscale actually work ?
i mean in general for every tiers. I need to understand the theory behind it.In Tier 2? Pretty much not at all simply because of how Tier 2 works
In general it is tricky because it relies on case-by-case and demonstration of the superior party's strength over the weaker one, and how well the weaker party can stand up to the stronger one. It's not always clear cut as to how it should be handled TBF.I just remember in OBD forum they explained the basic of powerscaling work.
assume the fight only involve bare-handed physical strength
C > B > A = A < B < C
that's not speed thoughCheck speed sections ftl part
It's stated the champions aren't as strong as kratos by izzy
They are stated to be not be as fast as the twins in the same scan and then is implied kratos is as well Faster than themthat's not speed though
It absolutely is. Refer to the Rage section where it verbatim states that Rage also gives Kratos an edge not just in AP but also in speed, response time and overall capabilities.that's not speed though