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In novels, even slight increase in strength, magic or life force ( all of which might as well mean the same) automatically increase speed just as much.
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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Heck, Izzy even straight up says this:
"The champions are not as strong or powerful as Kratos. So I would say they are not as fast as the twins."
He says this with explicit reference to the Redeemed Warriors using the Essence of Hyperion. Speed and Power as functions are intricately tied together in GOW, can't have one without the other.
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I didn't disagree with the scan saying that I was just referring to what chosen said
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He was referring to the scan tho.
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How about Castor/Pollux?
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Honestly I'm not sure. They're demigods too, but their only saving grace was the Amulet of Urobors, and once Kratos managed to murk its abilities those two physically didn't stand a chance, and Kratos literally ripped Pollux apart from his brother's body, even stomping down the parasite's head with ease.
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Question
Is hermes a special case then or What?
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Hermes is a special case because he isn't just the God of speed, but also the God of Messengers, and he's an arrogant-and-lazy piece of shit.
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Also magic boots
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since the blades of chaos are more powerful than the mjolnir, shouldn't demigod kratos be tier3/2? since the blades themselves are described as this powerful, or am i misunderstanding something?
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YEEZYS SHOES
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Like I proposed a year and a half ago?
Guess the "weight of the world behind it" is no longer a hyperbole or an example of flowery language. Cool.
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No. The AP of the Blades vary on the ones wielding them but durability is a different story due to its craftsmanship. Blades of Chaos Amp works as a two-way street. Hammer of Atlas seem to be a differrent story altogether
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they vary? is this a stated thing from them?
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This is off topic but how are some people able to put their avatar pictures on their signature?
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Yeah, they vary based on strength of the wielder, statements are that in the GOW1 novel it mentions that Kratos grows more powerful the more he kills with them, but the durability is solid Tier 2 based on Brok's comment and Freya stating that he'd need something stronger than the Leviathan in Helheim. Since Kratos can channel his divine energy into random weapons for his own use so they don't break from his own power.
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And they’re the same thing via dictionary definition
don’t even
only the greater universe, not the actual landmass
he’s > via statements, fighting the same enemies as them and being near Olympian in Power. They probably backscale though
Also Odin might need Resistance to Power Null for his magic being uncompromised by Fimbulwinter ruining enchantments (it likely is part of Power Bestowal too)
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anyone?
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IIRC you need patreon subscription, you can ask around to verify.
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that costs money so no
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This just showed up in my recommendation. Really made my day.
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Ye
They need a profile badly. Why is the Mortals and Demigods section so empty? There's multiple demigods that have showed up
Yeah, this time around they might go past even that.
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so the blades from GoW1<<<blades from norse GoW? since kratos has killed more with them since then
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Perseus effectively gets his shit kicked in and is otherwise featless, but yeah all the others deserve profiles.
Them swinging a weapon with the weight of the world would cascade and scale to their LS and AP tho.
At this point, might as well upgrade them to 6-A.
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Power wise? Yes. Durability wise tho? It's always been 2-C. Durability hasn't changed one bit.
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ok, shouldn't that be pointed in the profile?
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Blades of Chaos has no profile ATM LOL.
It does have a sandbox tho, where I have noted down that its power level varies depending on its wielder's strength, but its durability is solid 2-C.
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in kratos's profile i mean, btw do we have any statements about how the other blades(atena and exyle) scale in comparison to the chaos?
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can you link it?
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I think I already linked the sandbox here already but sure, here it is:
vsbattles.fandom.com
KLOL506/GodOfWarBladesOfChaos
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thank you, the thread is kinda big, got lost after not viewing in a while lol
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They really should. Along with the multiplayer bosses like the Olympian Sentinel, who's very Hax resistant.
Some of the comic characters could use profiles as well like Helios' champion.
And tanking that force and clashing other weapons against it. Yeah at this point I think Tier 7 needs to dip
He should at least scale to the redeemed Warrior, so I think he could use a page.
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Even then, probably backscales to Kratos
I'd also note Runic Attacks adding Summoning, Passive Healing and Explosions too since that's just 100 percent the Blades' own power. I'd also suggest having the different "elements" as their own tabbers. Great work thoughI think I already linked the sandbox here already but sure, here it is:
KLOL506/GodOfWarBladesOfChaos
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Summoning? I thought Kratos lost that with Ares.
Explosions is kind of standard at this point even without runic attacks.
Weapon handle attachments could get bullet points tho.
There ain't enough abilities to justify tabbers for the different elements of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades.
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He can summon meteors in 2018
Hence my point, the sandbox only brings up the explosions with a specific ability from Ares
Agreed
Eh I feel the Hades stuff having Soul Manipulation, Homing Attack, Portal Creation, Summoning and Transmutation is worth bringing up. Point being I think they should be their own thing since they're not standard to the Blades but are additives
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If the blades were partially amped by Hope I don't think you can add that Ares feat
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Why is the speed a varies tier? Its an immobile weapon. Its energy projection based attacks could get a speed rating
Could probably be power null
This is death manipulation too
Could probably be power null
This is death manipulation too
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Rage of Ares stuff ends up being standard moveset for Blades of Chaos once you upgrade the Blades enough, so not sure. It'd sound kinda redundant but I'm open to suggestions.
I mean, that's the furthest it goes with Souls of Hades, literal copypaste of GoW1 Souls of Hades and GoW3 Claws of Hades. That really isn't worthy enough for a tabber, Sonic got torn down for even less.
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