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the correctly translated direct planet level statement is literally linked on his profileOr because your arguments for it aren't that good
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I'm tired of doing crts for a bit, I'll let someone else go for it
even though I don't really trust any of you
hmm
even though I don't really trust any of you
hmm
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By the way did anyone ever calc this In Training Saitama feat?
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/917231040936939550/917253105425461318/p_17.jpg
Saitama makes a large hole in the wall of one of the HA bunkers which are stated to be able to resist tank shells and missiles (though this may be exaggeration by the HA officials)
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/917231040936939550/917253105425461318/p_17.jpg
Saitama makes a large hole in the wall of one of the HA bunkers which are stated to be able to resist tank shells and missiles (though this may be exaggeration by the HA officials)
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Probably not? Considering it would make sense for the bunker to protect against such a thing, and we know OPM's HA have the technology for it.
Though, iirc Tank shells are like 9-B to 9-A while standard missiles range from 9-A to 8-C.
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8-C In Training Saitama sounds neat tho idk if the size of the hole warrants a higher or lower rating
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What was the wall made out of? It being metal could likely get it to Tier 8.
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Looks like reinforced concrete to me
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That seems like a weird material choice because isn't the dome DSK smashed supposed to protect against nukes and shit?
Might probably end up in 9-B to 9-A
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I’m just a 5-B boros for fun….and stomping the S class!
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9-A is fine as well, if anything this In Training Saitama is implied to be far stronger already since he goes on to one shot a Demon level threat while running to a convenience store like 2 panels after this lol
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Maybe the monsters in OPM have finally incited humanity into making a good form of concrete for once.
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Let's say, for high-ball's sake, that Saitama v fragged a 2 x 2 x 2 metre cylinder of reinforced concrete.
That's 0.09 Tons of TNT. Small Building level.
I'd say it'd be closer to mid-end 9-B if someone took the time to calculate it.
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Hm. Not bad I supposed. But not very impressive. I guess it's sorta consistent with the wall being able to withstand tank shells and missiles.
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would poison be able to kill zombieman? I mean I feel like if he can survive with no organs, then he could survive with poisoned organs, but I wanna know what the wiki thinks
same goes for stuff like sleeping meds and mind manip stuff, if he can still think and act without his brain, then would an ability like that be able to stop him?
same goes for stuff like sleeping meds and mind manip stuff, if he can still think and act without his brain, then would an ability like that be able to stop him?
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If the mind manip controls him by affecting the metaphysical aspect of mind then it would work. Biological mind manip is debatable, since his brain works different from ours (unable to recognize death, can fight nonstop for weeks, can function without it.) and even if it affects him he would snap out of it as soon as someone destroys the brain and he regenerates a new one.
Sleeping meds from the hypnotic class and systemic anesthesics would likely need absurd dosages to work due to his immense stamina and irregular brain, local anesthesics and muscular relaxants would probably work if not a little worse due to connecting to periferic nerve receptors as opposed to central nervous system.
Anticoagulant poisons that cause hemorrhagic bleeding or cellular apoptosis wouldn't kill him unless it's some superpoison that can cause cellular death fast enough to turn a human into mush in less than a minute.
Neurotoxins could affect his ability to fight, but considering his type 2 immortality and stamina a cardiac or pulmonary arrest wouldn't be life threatening.
Paralysis inducing poison would likely work as intended to need massive dosages depending on how his metabolism works.
Toxins will eventually accumulate, but it depends on how quickly his metabolism can filter them and what organs they will shutdown first. Zombieman can probably fight fine even with his liver and kidneys shutdown for a few hours. While having his heart/lungs/brain shutdown would likely affect his ability to fight properly drastically relatively quick.
Sleeping meds from the hypnotic class and systemic anesthesics would likely need absurd dosages to work due to his immense stamina and irregular brain, local anesthesics and muscular relaxants would probably work if not a little worse due to connecting to periferic nerve receptors as opposed to central nervous system.
Anticoagulant poisons that cause hemorrhagic bleeding or cellular apoptosis wouldn't kill him unless it's some superpoison that can cause cellular death fast enough to turn a human into mush in less than a minute.
Neurotoxins could affect his ability to fight, but considering his type 2 immortality and stamina a cardiac or pulmonary arrest wouldn't be life threatening.
Paralysis inducing poison would likely work as intended to need massive dosages depending on how his metabolism works.
Toxins will eventually accumulate, but it depends on how quickly his metabolism can filter them and what organs they will shutdown first. Zombieman can probably fight fine even with his liver and kidneys shutdown for a few hours. While having his heart/lungs/brain shutdown would likely affect his ability to fight properly drastically relatively quick.
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Bro is mikey's victim
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Sano manjiro from Tokyo revengers
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He should be downscaling from garou, since it’s literally the same garou that went on to fight Genos a few moments later and take a beat down from the BB brothers
Doesn’t matter if he’s weakened, garou still had AD and extreme stamina to the point where that wouldn’t have even mattered very much
a 9-B would have been instantly turned into mush from even a weakened and suppressed garou attack, at worst he’s high 7-C
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The first version of garou beat Mumen rider with a single weak attack, if glasses were 9-B the same would have happened, so there’s really no shot he was holding back
same goes for scaling his speed, except he has no rule against blitzing humans so the counterargument is even weaker there
same goes for scaling his speed, except he has no rule against blitzing humans so the counterargument is even weaker there
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No it isn't. Garou was ******, used Bang's breathing technique (something that amps Bang's abilities), and then began to completely overwhelm them to the point where Glasses couldn't do shit when he was injured. My guy was gigantically weakened before that point.
Also, Glasses only ever kept up with Garou in terms of speed. We never see him inflict damage that's not already there.
You could say the same thing about any of the A-, B- or C-Class fodder that fought him, especially Stinger who's been knocked out by people that a weaker Genos could one-shot. That's not even including the ones he wrecked while at full power, like Red Nose.
Plus, MB one-shot a Demon level that was defeating these heroes and stronger ones, and Genos is equal to TTM, who fought the same form of Garou that was wrecking an enormously amped Fighting Spirit Metal Bat. So that weakened Garou >>>> these heroes to a one-shotting degree.
Garou isn't out to kill them, but it would be a massacre if he actually tried to.
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ok? I was just saying he would downscale for surviving multiple attacks from awakening breath garou, who scales to genos to some degree, and was even considered worth using as a shield to garou from death gatling
regardless of how held back he was, that doesn't affect his durability, and he was being harmed earlier in the fight obviously, hence the need to use awakening breath in the first place
gonna need specific examples
this is out of context and doesn't really show if he was amped beforehand
also, his bat got dented from that for some reason despite having high 6-A durability so...it's a bit of a weird scene to use, and takes place a fair bit in the past where the other heroes could have been weaker
the fact remains that glasses did indeed take a beatdown from an almost genos level garou, but would just downscale
but whatever idk, I guess you can just stick with saying that a squad of dudes thousands of times weaker than him would somehow be able to make him budge, even if he were weakened, they're not relevant enough for me to care
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This was prior to him reaching S-Class. It was only then that he got a super durable bat that doesn't dent when he uses it
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is there a scan showing this
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oh I see, makes sense
technically metal knight should have high 6-A durability with prep time if hero association technicians can make a high 6-A baseball bat… but that’s just a theory
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Limiters page when tho
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Pages like that take pretty long to make and I've been busy. I only have a small rough draft. It will be done when it's done.
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I would like to assist, if possible, since I don’t want to rush you, but I do want it done
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Best case scenario, limiter removal would allow Saitama and Garou to reach 3-A in vs matches
but other than that it would just give the entire cast accelerated development via recovering from near death, like a zenkai
it would make metal bat even stronger in vs threads, as well as giving zombieman an op ability, since he can recover from near death basically infinitely, like Phoenix man but better (unless you have regen neg)
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Metal knight becomes god tier because funny robot doesn’t have a limiter
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The profile scales his AP to his durability, so I was accounting for that too.
That's only because Gatling didn't want to fire on him. It had nothing to do with durability. Are these babies 9-C/9-B all of a sudden?
Once again, Glasses did not harm Garou (the part about pre-existing damage refers to the fact that he punched a cut that Stinger already made), so it doesn't matter if Garou's durability was affected or not, or if the other heroes were able to.
The only ones who actually hurt Garou had weaponry; Stinger's can one-shot opponents who can harm him and Demon levels, shooter has a weird ass bow (and got one-shot by Garou's rock throw), Gun Gun and Death Gatling wield guns, and the rest didn't even make a scratch.
The only one who may have hurt him in any capacity that really scales to them is Toad.
I just gave specific examples, like Stinger, Golden Ball, Red Nose and Gun Gun. Pretty much every non-S-Class hero fight with Garou is an example in and of itself.
You can see that he's completely uninjured and one-shot the Demon. There's no possible way that he was amped, and nobody there would have given him a resonance boost.
Plus, even if he was somehow amped, MB in the Garou fight was amped to the point where he could one-shot opponents that could tank his blows before, and then boosted way further by getting severely injured by EC and Garou himself. So any potential amp he got during that Demon fight would pale in comparison.
Upon becoming an S-Class (he was one of the lowest C-Class at the time of the Demon fight), Bad was gifted an indestructible bat from Metal Knight far after this because he kept breaking it even on fodder. So no.
Proof or that didn't happen.
Again, Garou has practically never killed a human opponent like (there were a few, IIRC) this pre-God, even if they were heroes. No facts remain here.
They even say that he was being toyed with so Garou would piss off the other heroes enough to lure them out.
Yes, I am saying that Gun Gun and Shooter are fodder who do not physically scale to Garou just because he didn't mutilate them, much like every other human he's fought.
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There is not much merit in surviving attacks from someone who doesn't want to kill you in the first place. Every hero during that fight got one shotted and Garou clarified that if he wasn't weakened he would have easily disposed of all of them.
Idk about Chain Toad downscaling though
Idk about Chain Toad downscaling though
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No one really, only humans that died during his hero hunting were killed by Blue Fire
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