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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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You don't really need to calc that. In that same panel Bakugo was quick enough to see Shigarakis attack and dodge it
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Took awhile for the scans to come out on the website I use. Tamaki's big attack is a plasma cannon it seems. Shigaraki tries to attack Suneater with his growth, but he is able to launch his cannon first. The growth protected him. Sure the growth isn't very durable, but he can keep that growth going infinitely.
That's a super handy shield. Also Mirio lands another Nejire enhanced blow and punched Shigaraki right in the face. I say it's Nejire enhanced because there is energy wrapped around his arm again. Shigaraki is also shown to have a bruise on his face, so it's consistent that Nejire's power can bruise him. But can't do anything else.
Nejire downscales, obviously. Wonder what kind of damage Shigaraki would've taken had he not defended like that. Highly doubt it'd kill him, but maybe it would've been similar to Howitzer Cluster? Once again Shigaraki affirms that he's basically Prime All Might. I think there could be a good speed feet for that cannon.
Oh my... Did Bakugo just blitz Complete Shigaraki, who's speed is on par with Prime All Might? Also he's moving really fast compared to his own explosions, that is a very good speed feat all around. Bakugo's awakening is happening. This would be another key, likely just called Awakened or something.
Bakugo is able to avoid Shigaraki's strike. That's MHS for Bakugo. Everyone is shook, he actually dodged a hit from Shigaraki. Actually Bakugo's outpacing Shigaraki, he's struggling to keep up with him. Quirk Explosion. So this awakening is happening from a response of his Cluster. So much energy building up inside of him.
AFO just flashed back to the second user while fighting Bakugo. I don't buy time travel for a second, but maybe there is some connection going on here.
Um... Heroes Rising 100% canon now? How is he seeing All Might's vestige? Bakugo asking All Might to sign his card, I don't like where this is going. There is no way right? Bakugo's heart actually exploded, there's a goddamn hole in it! Big old punch and boom, now a ruptured heart.
I never want characters to die, if I had a choice I'll always pick the option where they live. That doesn't mean death is always a negative point with me. But I'll give massive kudos if Horikoshi actually goes through with this. Maybe Bakugo ends up inside of OFA or something, that's why he saw the vestige?
Horikoshi wanted Izuku to give OFA to Bakugo during the final battle, but scrapped that idea and used it for the movie.
Bakugo ending up inside of OFA would be even more crazy.
Also what are these clouds? Kansai, Chubu, and Kanto regions cover a big chunk of Japan. Clouds appearing due to a sharp rise in temperature doesn't sound natural.
That's a super handy shield. Also Mirio lands another Nejire enhanced blow and punched Shigaraki right in the face. I say it's Nejire enhanced because there is energy wrapped around his arm again. Shigaraki is also shown to have a bruise on his face, so it's consistent that Nejire's power can bruise him. But can't do anything else.
Nejire downscales, obviously. Wonder what kind of damage Shigaraki would've taken had he not defended like that. Highly doubt it'd kill him, but maybe it would've been similar to Howitzer Cluster? Once again Shigaraki affirms that he's basically Prime All Might. I think there could be a good speed feet for that cannon.
Oh my... Did Bakugo just blitz Complete Shigaraki, who's speed is on par with Prime All Might? Also he's moving really fast compared to his own explosions, that is a very good speed feat all around. Bakugo's awakening is happening. This would be another key, likely just called Awakened or something.
Bakugo is able to avoid Shigaraki's strike. That's MHS for Bakugo. Everyone is shook, he actually dodged a hit from Shigaraki. Actually Bakugo's outpacing Shigaraki, he's struggling to keep up with him. Quirk Explosion. So this awakening is happening from a response of his Cluster. So much energy building up inside of him.
AFO just flashed back to the second user while fighting Bakugo. I don't buy time travel for a second, but maybe there is some connection going on here.
Um... Heroes Rising 100% canon now? How is he seeing All Might's vestige? Bakugo asking All Might to sign his card, I don't like where this is going. There is no way right? Bakugo's heart actually exploded, there's a goddamn hole in it! Big old punch and boom, now a ruptured heart.
I never want characters to die, if I had a choice I'll always pick the option where they live. That doesn't mean death is always a negative point with me. But I'll give massive kudos if Horikoshi actually goes through with this. Maybe Bakugo ends up inside of OFA or something, that's why he saw the vestige?
Horikoshi wanted Izuku to give OFA to Bakugo during the final battle, but scrapped that idea and used it for the movie.
Bakugo ending up inside of OFA would be even more crazy.
Also what are these clouds? Kansai, Chubu, and Kanto regions cover a big chunk of Japan. Clouds appearing due to a sharp rise in temperature doesn't sound natural.
Going to try my hand a calcing some of the things in this chapter. I'm actually expecting something good. I admit that maybe I mistaken something that happened, I'm kind of writing this mere seconds after reading the chapter and I'm shaking.
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Temperature rising because AFO took Endeavors quirk and now causing a literally Hell storm
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Perhaps this could be in reference to the fact that the second user was the leader of a resistance formed at the previous height of his power.
They also look similar.
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Hell, maybe the second user even wielded Explosion himself, which is why Katsuki challenging him hits All For One this hard. If Horikoshi does plan on inserting Katsuki into One For All, then making one of the predecessors' Quirks Explosion would allow Izuku to connect further with Katsuki on a thematic level without acting using Katsuki's Quirk.
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”Lol Bakugo is FODDER to Deku how. Deku doesn't even need the vestige quirks to FOLD Bakugo. OFA can NEVER be challenged.” Bakugo SEEMS to blitz Prime All Might speed Shigaraki and dodge him. Lmao. Bakugo haters gonna be mad, imagine Bakugo in his adult years… if he survives! 
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Bakugo's Explosion is unique to him. Sure I can buy the second user having something similar. But Bakugo's Explosion was created from the fusion of his mother and father's Quirk. So it isn't possible for them to have the same exact Quirk. Maybe both are explosive in nature, and are highly similar.
But the explosion Quirk of Bakugo is something unique to him.
But the explosion Quirk of Bakugo is something unique to him.
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I don’t think the rising temp was from Bakugo, otherwise everyone in the UA arena would be feeling the burn no doubt. It’s probably from AFO. Maybe he’s fighting Deku. Or maybe Deku sensed Bakugo’s dying state somehow and is PISSED, would explain Vestige Might being there.
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I believe Deku is gonna be quite a few steps beyond pissed. Hopefully this signs Shigarakis death certificate, I don't want them to talk this out at all lol
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I mean he was indeed fodder to Deku before this (or at least before Cluster as a whole).”Lol Bakugo is FODDER to Deku how. Deku doesn't even need the vestige quirks to FOLD Bakugo. OFA can NEVER be challenged.” Bakugo SEEMS to blitz Prime All Might speed Shigaraki and dodge him. Lmao. Bakugo haters gonna be mad, imagine Bakugo in his adult years… if he survives!
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Okay so using the 7700 m/s speed for nitroglycerine is giving me Mach 598 or Massively Hypersonic.
However the issue is that explosions get massively slower after a short distance, and the detonation speed is only for the speed of the shockwave through the detonated material. Which would be his sweat. I have no idea how to calculate this explosion speed beyond doing a massive low ball I'd rather not do.
Bakugo is also compressing these explosions, so they're faster than normal nitroglycerine explosions as well.
Also with calc stacking, assuming it moves as fast as his Howitzer Impact: Cluster. Gives me 0.21c, Relativistic Speed.
However the issue is that explosions get massively slower after a short distance, and the detonation speed is only for the speed of the shockwave through the detonated material. Which would be his sweat. I have no idea how to calculate this explosion speed beyond doing a massive low ball I'd rather not do.
Bakugo is also compressing these explosions, so they're faster than normal nitroglycerine explosions as well.
Also with calc stacking, assuming it moves as fast as his Howitzer Impact: Cluster. Gives me 0.21c, Relativistic Speed.
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Horikoshi is really rubbing in those Shigaraki is Prime All Might level physically statements to shut down any doubters
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Notice how the second ofa vestige always appears when it has something to to with bakugo
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Now I'm thinking people on the heroes side should have undergone Ujiko's Nomu-fication process. Squeeze the process out of the old man and buff up the heroes defence cause that seems to be a weakness for most characters without explicit strength & durability enhancing quirks.
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Legit, now he already has speed, strength, and now defence statements putting him on Prime All Might level.
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Do you have a pixel scale for the distance that Bakugou travelled? I’m trying to compose a blog with multiple methods of calcing Bakugou’s speed but I need the distance
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Shigaraki went through him or his heart exploded I didn't fully understand that part
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Pretty sure the rise in temperature was caused by the plasma canon created by Suneater.
Plasma by itself is extremely hot and considering this plasma is highly concentrated and buffed by his canon it wouldn’t be an assumption to say he created it over the skies of various cities.
Nejire canons are confirmed to be plasma now(not sure if this was already known), im not sure if there’s an ability for having plasma but she should also get heat manipulation for his waves.
Bakugo good speed feat, I wouldn’t say he “blitz” tomura as tomura never makes any effort to dodge unless he doesn’t know how strong an attack would be.
And if he truly was blitz he would have made it known, and for the most part he’s causal. Tomura outpacing a suppressed shigaraki.
It’s also made clear that he could follow bakugo with his eyes (he knew he flew behind him and was charging his next attack).
Tomura visibly uses more power and has veins all on his head like a DS character and outpaces Bakugo’s attack and ends up one shotting him.
I believe the damage Tomura suffered is from the plasma canon and not Nejire’s beam.
Plasma by itself is extremely hot and considering this plasma is highly concentrated and buffed by his canon it wouldn’t be an assumption to say he created it over the skies of various cities.
Nejire canons are confirmed to be plasma now(not sure if this was already known), im not sure if there’s an ability for having plasma but she should also get heat manipulation for his waves.
Bakugo good speed feat, I wouldn’t say he “blitz” tomura as tomura never makes any effort to dodge unless he doesn’t know how strong an attack would be.
And if he truly was blitz he would have made it known, and for the most part he’s causal. Tomura outpacing a suppressed shigaraki.
It’s also made clear that he could follow bakugo with his eyes (he knew he flew behind him and was charging his next attack).
Tomura visibly uses more power and has veins all on his head like a DS character and outpaces Bakugo’s attack and ends up one shotting him.
I believe the damage Tomura suffered is from the plasma canon and not Nejire’s beam.
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He just hit him really hard and basically pierced his chest enough to rapture part of his heard. It doesn't look like a full stab all the way through especially with Jeanist and the other heroes restraining him to some extent.
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I thought the text was implying that his heart ruptured because of his Condensed explosions taking their toll? His sweat was going into overdrive and trying to find an exit; aka, his heart. Shigaraki‘s attack was like a pin and his heart was a full balloon.
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More for suneater, if it’s true and accepted that his attack is the cause of the sudden heat spike and multiple storms, we know that the storm he created was made over 3 japan regions. It would mean his attack traversed these areas in the short time span it traveled, the smallest region of the 3 being 250km in size.
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Makes sense. The attack doesn’t blow apart his chest or rip his limbs off so this seem to be the best interpretation
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Or the temperature change is just Dabi going sicko mode adding to the foreshadowing from Shigaraki that this is the villains story. Dabi is the only person who we know who was about to do a high temperature attack, so it’s likely just him popping off.
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I fail to see why this would be brought up in the middle of the Tomura fight.
Plasma also generates large amounts of heat, 10,000c up to as hot as the sun.
If it cuts to dabi next chapter and he’s going crazy, sure, but so far no fire character really has shown that form of ability.
Plasma also generates large amounts of heat, 10,000c up to as hot as the sun.
If it cuts to dabi next chapter and he’s going crazy, sure, but so far no fire character really has shown that form of ability.
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"Clouds have appeared in the skies of Kanto, Chubu and Kansai regions".
Isn't that close to where AFO was located? Has he managed to steal Endeavor's Hellflame?
Isn't that close to where AFO was located? Has he managed to steal Endeavor's Hellflame?
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Could be from his prominence burn, idk the positioning of those regions and the MHA cities other than Kamino being in Yokohama, which is in Kanto district.
It’s a very big stretch of the country being covered in clouds though
It’s a very big stretch of the country being covered in clouds though
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That area is rather massive. Who knows what is going on.
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Scan
Best Jeanist Height = 190 cm or 1.90 m
Panel Height = 27.2 m
Distance Traveled = 1.90*27.2/[1.90*2tan(70/2)] = 19.42 m
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Why can’t we just accept that suneater did this 
there’s no way AFO took endeavor’s quirk off screen.
there’s no way AFO took endeavor’s quirk off screen.
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Why can’t we just accept that suneater did this
Because his attack did nothing in the chapter and was immediately forgotten.
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Use Spoilers.Why can’t we just accept that suneater did this
There's no way Suneater's attack affected all of this area.
That's way too big for that tiny beam that didn't even melt the ground beneath them, to suddenly create clouds across a large part of the country.
Highly doubt Endeavor's Quirk got stolen either.
That's way too big for that tiny beam that didn't even melt the ground beneath them, to suddenly create clouds across a large part of the country.
Highly doubt Endeavor's Quirk got stolen either.
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Did nothing to tomura.
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Wrong link?
We didn’t see the full scale of the attack… I’ll just wait for the next chapters.
We didn’t see the full scale of the attack… I’ll just wait for the next chapters.
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Why can’t we just accept that suneater did this
Because there’s no evidence he did? Yeah he shot a plasma beam but we didn’t see the full effect of it and it was incredibly thin compared to the regions apparently being covered, not to mention the temperature of this plasma beam wasn’t talked about at all. If the beam caused these clouds, there would be something about how it did so in this chapter, or at least a mention of its heat, or hell the reporter talking about how a beam shot across these regions. Suneater’s attack didn’t do anything to Shiggy or the environment as far as we know currently.
Until we know what caused these temperature changes, we’re all just theorizing. Don’t act like your idea is the only correct one.
Until we know what caused these temperature changes, we’re all just theorizing. Don’t act like your idea is the only correct one.
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