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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Oh yeah, The Nina leader that could handle flashy flash and Sonic like new born babies.

considering this arc, that will be ******* insane.
 
YUIOP10 said:
I'm not strawmanning anything, you're expressing various different points that contradict each other. Your last point seems to be your main one, so let's take a stab at it: The inversion of shonen power creep means Saitama becomes the power measuring stick of his verse. Your enjoyment comes from seeing people "measure up" against that stick and without knowing Saitama's actual level, postulate about how close they are to his power, and hope they eventually match up. That is the main purpose of him subverting power dynamics and the main purpose of his gag, according to you. Is that correct?
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A better understanding than before.

A level enjoyment does come from seeing people try to measure up. The majority of the enjoyment comes from seeing the side characters going through their own power struggles. Which you stated earlier as if I was in opposition to. Which is what I meant by arguing against points I never made a stand against.


YUIOP10 said:
Saitama having his mechanism for strength revealed is not "pointless". It shows that Garou could never catch up to Saitama just by trying to copy him; it says nothing about any other character. Garou's journey mirrors Saitama, but he fell on the wrong path from the start, and his growth was not naturally induced, unlike Saitama. There's nothing to say that another character with a heroic goal and a natural journey could not accomplish or reach Saitama's levels of power if they break their limitations. In future arcs, the focus will still be on side characters and their development as well as worldbuilding, and Saitama having infinite growth changes nothing about that.
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It shows that saitama’s mechanism is infinite growth and you literally say that yourself.

Garou mirrors saitama? Lets stay away from that one. That’s a whole other conversation.

Another character could reach saitama’s strength???? That’s your point? You are confusing the **** outa me.

My whole point is that, yes, that was initially the case. That we would eventually see that happen. You are against that. Are you?

The focus for the most has always been on the side characters and their development. I’m not arguing against that.


YUIOP10 said:
What your point boils down to is just that you want Saitama to be limited, so that someone in the series could catch up. That "chase" for power is literally shonen-esque; the gag subverts that unhealthy desire you and other readers have. It will never happen, especially considering ONE's interviews about how he views Saitama. All this codifies in no uncertain terms that Saitama cannot be beaten.
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The reason I want that is because that idea can be applied to any shonen/super hero setting and be open for many new ideas and journeys. The format of the gag/parody matters here. That format opens the door to so many possibilities. The fact it will never happen doesn’t matter. It’s the that it isn’t is why OPM took a nose dive in quality.

YUIOP10 said:
There's nothing to say that another character with a heroic goal and a natural journey could not accomplish or reach Saitama's levels of power if they break their limitations
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YUIOP10 said:
All this codifies in no uncertain terms that Saitama cannot be beaten.
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Pick one.


YUIOP10 said:
The gag is unrelated to your desire to see Saitama get challenged or even beaten; it is in fact the direct subversion of your expectations. If you're complaining that you no longer get to have those expectations, that's the point. That's not even mentioning the fact that Saitama is only shown to grow exponentially more than Garou, not against every being.
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My expectations going into one punch man back in 2015 was that he was infact an unbeatable plot device but I grew up and realized it’s much deeper than that.

??? It only worked on gaoru. That’s your point? It’s because gaoru is the only one to reach saitama’s level.
YUIOP10 said:
OPM fights' stakes have always been about if Saitama is there in time or not. Now that Saitama's character has experienced the growth necessary to recognize his responsibility, the tool of time travel is in fact thematically consistent with him learning to be a better hero. OPM isn't one dimensional; your take on its gag is.
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Again not arguing against that, don’t know why you brought it up.

Yes and now with the introduction of time travel the stakes of “will saitama show up on time” are completely gone. Because he has the instant undo button to fix all the consequences.

Children could predict where this is going.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
This arc was pretty good. Narratively it felt weaker the webcomic but with greater spectacle. A couple things felt asspull-y though, like Metal Bat’s buff and Saitama pulling Time Travel outta nowhere (though that’s arguably just an expansion on him breaking his Limiter).

I enjoyed the power escalation, though I doubt we’re getting crazy shit anywhere near this scale again until Saitama inevitably fights God. Unless Murata is planning to massively buff the Ninjas and Tatsumaki too. Sonic is gonna be one-shotting Darkshine too in the next arc lol
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i'll be honest, i dont want tatsumaki to be anything above 5-b, would feel alit exageratted
 
jplion123 said:
that just ignores the "story by ONE art by Murata" on the cover of every single chapter
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also he tweeted like a month ago talking about storyboards he got from ONE. he's passively telling us, "i got these STORYBOARDS from ONE, u know, all im doing is DRAWING."
 
DbzDB2 said:
Saitama went all out in terms of attacking. But Saitama's durability is likely a completely different story. His durability is likely already infinite while his AP is limited but can grow limitlessly
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But that’s so ridiculous. Garou matched his full powered but couldn’t even scratch him? So he’s just invulnerable to anything in the verse? So his dura>his ap or anything for that matter.
 
Didn’t Garou actually leave a scratch on Saitama earlier in the fight or was that bad translation?
 
Coomandar said:
i'll be honest, i dont want tatsumaki to be anything above 5-b, would feel alit exageratted
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wouldn't be surprised if she caps at high 6-A, since the weakest limiter broken entity was boros at that tier
and I doubt tatsumaki, who isn't even the strongest S class hero, would be yet another limiter breaking character otherwise might as well just give everybody and their grandma the ability to break it
actually, how does it limit anything if you just break it by trying really hard anyways? whatever..
 
Would the time travel Saitama did count as atomic level body control? Considering he was only manipulating his own electrons
 
ZillertheBucko said:
ah yes, because serious punches are serious
which is why boros definitely gave him a struggle, as boros clearly backs up when he says "what a good fight saitama, that was really close!"
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Dude what in the actual **** is wrong with your rational thinking ability? I literally have no clue why the **** you're so bad at this lol. Saitama's punches (whether serious or normal) are NOT always in the same tier. Saitama's normal punches can vary from knocking out a normal human to shattering meteors. Same goes for his serious punch. And I'm not basing my entire argument that Saitama was serious against Garou because he was spamming serious punches. Maybe ya know... the fact that Garou literally just proved that he's ******* evil (even though it was God's influence) and ******* killed genos and all the heroes pissed Saitama off to the point where he literally ******* says that he's going all out and he "got what he wanted", which is a serious ******* fight. And you really need to work on polishing how you debate, because until you elaborated later on, I had no ******* clue what you were trying to say. Anyway, I'm done with you. You can't debate for shit my guy and you clearly lack any sort of rational thinking, something that is rampant within the OPM community.
 
RinneItachi said:
Garou has literally taken over 20 (maybe over 30) punches, including punches that Saitama has explicitly said are not being held back, and people are still gonna say "Saitama is One Punch Man, thus he beats everyone in one punch".
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He went from serious punches to normal punches after the power up lol
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Didn’t Garou actually leave a scratch on Saitama earlier in the fight or was that bad translation?
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He didn’t, because Saitama is able to tank serious full powered punches without so much as a scratch but that one normal punch apparently hurt him? That’s inconsistent and illogical. It was either bait dialogue from ONE or it could be interpreted as his clothes like people said or whatever. Idk why ONE revealed Saitama’s full strength, had Garou copy it yet he still can’t be damaged. Dude looks like he only picked up dust. Disappointed :/
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
Didn’t Garou actually leave a scratch on Saitama earlier in the fight or was that bad translation?
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he did "scratch" him but that wouldn't work in the context that a far weaker form did more than a stronger form that did nothing. so i think the context behind scratch is his appearance looking beat up still.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
wouldn't be surprised if she caps at high 6-A, since the weakest limiter broken entity was boros at that tier
and I doubt tatsumaki, who isn't even the strongest S class hero, would be yet another limiter breaking character otherwise might as well just give everybody and their grandma the ability to break it
actually, how does it limit anything if you just break it by trying really hard anyways? whatever..
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boros has nothing to do with the scaling, tatsumaki already scales above him in ap lol.
she's actually much much superior to 5 exatons, meanwhile boros is limited to 9 exatons with his ENTIRE LIFE FORCE in a single shot and suicidal attack
boros is not a limit breaker lol
and tatsumaki is much closer to that tittle than him, boros is dead and aint getting any upgrades, but now tatsumaki......
also, why do we always have to talk about boros when mentioning tatsumaki since boros has nothing to do with current characters powerlevels, especially characters boosted by god
 
DbzDB2 said:
Dude what in the actual **** is wrong with your rational thinking ability? I literally have no clue why the **** you're so bad at this lol. Saitama's punches (whether serious or normal) are NOT always in the same tier. Saitama's normal punches can vary from knocking out a normal human to shattering meteors. Same goes for his serious punch. And I'm not basing my entire argument that Saitama was serious against Garou because he was spamming serious punches. Maybe ya know... the fact that Garou literally just proved that he's ******* evil (even though it was God's influence) and ******* killed genos and all the heroes pissed Saitama off to the point where he literally ******* says that he's going all out and he "got what he wanted", which is a serious ******* fight. And you really need to work on polishing how you debate, because until you elaborated later on, I had no ******* clue what you were trying to say. Anyway, I'm done with you. You can't debate for shit my guy and you clearly lack any sort of rational thinking, something that is rampant within the OPM community.
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recall that none of these new points you're bringing up were ones that you originally mentioned, I was replying to the message you sent, which only contained the faulty logic that I called out.
not to mention the fact that saitama still did everything in 167 one handed, holding his breath, and protecting the core, so what you're saying demonstrably doesn't even hold up regardless

and for the love of god stop trying to be an internet tough guy and just use normal words, like everyone else on the thread
 
top 10? if my version is like this

1. saitama
2. god
3. CF Garou
4. blast
5. Team blast
6. Tatsumaki
7. Psykorichi
8. boros
9. genos
10. metal bat , EOW , sage centipede

EOW and sage centipede are just additions, because they also have good feats
 
saitama remain superior in all aspects, now or in the future saitama will not be defeated, so putting saitama above god is not a mistake
 
Kachon123 said:
?

???

I want whatever this guy is on. Need a distraction from all of the copium I've been seeing in this fandom.
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what???????
if saitama was matched by garou, obviously that god would be stronger than his avatar, until saitama evolves and beats him.
and what about Platinum?????? Genos cant react and his 7-b durabilty will be one shotted by PS.
you think you're smart but you're the one nonsense here.
 
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