Four Knights of the Apocalypse/Nanatsu no Taizai Main Discussion Thread

[Makai641001]

Guila is back

Might be Guila vs Jericho

 

[Zezu1995]

Might be Guila vs Jericho

jericho left with lance tho and possibly came back with him, i doubt she would be an enemy but it will be a good twist

 

[Majinere566]

Enchantment amps gonna make the scaling chain go insane in 4kota

 

[Zezu1995]

with both guida and howzer using it we might have no choice but to include NNT it seems, i just wanna know why nabaka didnt explain this before

 

[Majinere566]

Wait Guila used Enchantments?

 

[Aether2734]

Not sure, he only shoot random explosion doesn't ever showing echanment elemental power like howzer or gilthunder do

 

[Zezu1995]

eh i thought one of the scans showed it , but i was wrong either way we will see when it drops

 

[Aether2734]

Btw, idk is this some kind of tiny detail about weapon echanment, i guess nakaba already explain it in 7ds but not directly

Use weapon echanment = increased more power
It's make sense although in 7ds series not only in 4koa

As you can see, instead use real sword when they use stick as weapon, they significantly not strong as when they use real weapon, but when they enchant it with their power although it stick, it's already give them more power boost than before.

It's maybe also give explanation to sins when they get back their sacred treasure, they significantly strong than before, (especially like diane with gideon and meliodas with lostvayne giving they more power level and strength). This giving them supportive feats that weapon amp isn't joke and echanment that amp also consistent

And further supporting feat

When clay dragon stated to be resist lightning, but after get echanment, it's already bypass it resistance as a result of increasing power

 

[Zezu1995]

so they had the enchantment but only the multiplier was given in FKOA

 

[Majinere566]

"Enchat: Hellblaze"

 

[Makai641001]

"Enchat: Hellblaze"

We should let By Asura finish with his Scaling chain and then talk about it to Enhance the chain
He is working on it for multiple month adding more and more things will get him more solo work to do

If we wait he can post the CRT this week and we can propose things for the scaling chain like adding the multipliers etc… as a group

 

[Zezu1995]

agreed

 

[Majinere566]

We should let By Asura finish with his Scaling chain and then talk about it to Enhance the chain
He is working on it for multiple month adding more and more things will get him more solo work to do

If we wait he can post the CRT this week and we can propose things for the scaling chain like adding the multipliers etc… as a group

Yeah I understand, but we could still always discuss potential amps etc and it wouldn't really hinder Byasura's progress until after he's done.

 

[Majinere566]

So anyways Gawain Sandbox next??


Couldn't find a good gawain panel

 

[ByAsura]

Btw, idk is this some kind of tiny detail about weapon echanment, i guess nakaba already explain it in 7ds but not directly

Use weapon echanment = increased more power
It's make sense although in 7ds series not only in 4koa

As you can see, instead use real sword when they use stick as weapon, they significantly not strong as when they use real weapon, but when they enchant it with their power although it stick, it's already give them more power boost than before.

It's maybe also give explanation to sins when they get back their sacred treasure, they significantly strong than before, (especially like diane with gideon and meliodas with lostvayne giving they more power level and strength). This giving them supportive feats that weapon amp isn't joke and echanment that amp also consistent

And further supporting feat

When clay dragon stated to be resist lightning, but after get echanment, it's already bypass it resistance as a result of increasing power

That's not because of an enchantment. In fact, they were weaker initially because they didn't have real weapons. They've always had destroyer magic simply due to how the magic system in NNT works.

What they did was find new ways to use their powers, like making a concentrated tornado.

Also, they experienced a permanent increase in power level rather than a temporary boost in damage.

 

[Makai641001]

So anyways Gawain Sandbox next??


Couldn't find a good gawain panel

I think you can’t take much panel since she’s naked in most of them

 

[Majinere566]

I think you can’t take much panel since she’s naked in most of them

You know what? Instead of worrying about a gawain render I'll just use her first full body appearance. Much more easier

 

[Majinere566]

But What would gawain's ap be? Possibly Low 6-B depending on how strong the escanor that fought galand is

 

[ByAsura]

The Escanor that fought Galand will be around Large Island level, or at most +.

We have established multipliers, and they work both ways.

 

[Majinere566]

Wouldn't that Escanor scale to Estarossa who's like Small Country level?

 

[ByAsura]

Estarossa fought Escanor a little bit before half an hour before noon.

Escanor fought Galand barely after sunrise.

 

[Majinere566]

Alright makes sense, so Gawain's AP would be Possibly High 6-C and For Speed MHS+?

 

[ByAsura]

Seems about right.

 

[Majinere566]

What even is Percival Ratings? Low 7-B in base and 7-B with Destroyer?

 

[ByAsura]

I think it's more like 7-B in base, and 7-B+ with Destroyer.

On this note, stuff like these aren't magically amplified attacks just because they're projected from a weapon (though they're stronger than without a weapon, especially since if it's a Sacred Treasure).

Imbue a sword with magic, and the blade's attack power is multiplied.

 

[Majinere566]

I feel like this should count as enchantment(quite literally called enchant hellblaze)

Also used by Hendrickson

Then there's some cases I'm unsure of like King's case and Assault Mode Meliodas

 

[ByAsura]

Yeah. Enchantment: Hellblaze has been a thing since forever in NNT, and Hendrickson uses it.

Still iffy on the multiplier, though.

 

[Zezu1995]

meliodas is using darkness, king is just increasing power of his spear via raw magic... tho that could also be enchantment

 

[ByAsura]

I'll compile everything I can find in original NNT today when I have the time.

Maybe we can do it case-by-case rather than removing it outright.

You have to admit, there's some instances where the multiplier makes no ******* sense, but I also think completely gate-keeping it is the wrong move.

 

[Majinere566]

meliodas is using darkness, king is just increasing power of his spear via raw magic... tho that could also be enchantment

Both scenarios fit the enchantment bill that lancelot talked about but then again it's just weird in King's case especially. If it was enchantment then he would be amping each spirit spear blade 2×. Maybe it's additive tho

 

[VsReferee]

Meliodas also enchanted his weapon with divine Slayer when he freed Margaret from the invisible demon.

Divine Slayer looks like hellblaze but I think it is darkness power

 

[ByAsura]

He added enchantment or destroyer magic to the weapon so he could fire it at the ground, but it's not a big amp.

It reaches those exponential 4KoA boosts when you use it directly in conjunction with a weapon.

 

[Makai641001]

I'll compile everything I can find in original NNT today when I have the time.

Maybe we can do it case-by-case rather than removing it outright.

You have to admit, there's some instances where the multiplier makes no ******* sense, but I also think completely gate-keeping it is the wrong move.

Dude please don’t do everything by yourself we have Time for it later you’ll just add another pile of things IN the scaling chain and it’ll be harder for you

 

[ByAsura]

Good idea. I'll just do finish that off after making the main chains.

 

[Majinere566]

I'll just continue with the 4kota sandbox

I think I'll do Percival then Gawain

 

[Majinere566]

How's luffy's page so organized? How the hell do u edit like this?

 

[ByAsura]

I know how to do it. And now that you're bringing this up, it's a very good idea.

 

[ByAsura]

Here's a sandbox with Meliodas' current AP in tabber form. It's unprotected, so you can check the source code.

 

[Makai641001]

I know how to do it. And now that you're bringing this up, it's a very good idea.

You are a multitask man We’ll make a page for you
AP/Dura/Striking Strength: Boundless (Is the System)
Speed: Immeasurable (Bro why the **** did we have to rework speed??)
P/A: Passive scaling chain Manip
Régénération (High Godly, Dude was tired last Time 10 mins later he had replenished his whole stamina)
Stats Amp (When seeing a Emu his power multiplies by infinite Mahlo Cardinals)
Resistance to Poison Manip (Is Australian)
Stamina: Infinite didn’t sleep for days he can’t be tired since his regen replenish his stamina
Skills and Intelligence: Genius he can understand this ******* editing tool
Weakness: « Ahahaha what Is a weakness i am the system give me your mom now »

 

[ByAsura]

I wish. I would have completed the scaling already, if that was the case.