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This is should works but actually not.Thirdly he still has whirlwind iron cutting fist to use against rubber physiology
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This is should works but actually not.Thirdly he still has whirlwind iron cutting fist to use against rubber physiology
Scans.Firstly Garou propagates the vibrations and shockwaves he uses for his dura neg in his body first so his organs are actually quite durable
Future sight.Secondly garou simply dodges that blow aimed to his head.
Luffy deadass just puts up some Buso.Thirdly he still has whirlwind iron cutting fist to use against rubber physiology
Once again, projectiles.This is should works but actually not.
He's immune to most physical attacks lmao.Are you insinuating he's immune to all physical attacks?
Scans
How is this gonna stop garou from dodging? He can still choose to dodge the ryou and reflect the punch.Future sight.
Damage would still accumulate.Luffy deadass just puts up some Buso.
Most not allHe's immune to most physical attacks lmao.
Also newtons 3rd law
How is this gonna stop garou from dodging? He can still choose to dodge the ryou and reflect the punch.
Damage would still accumulate.
Most is more than enough here lol.Most not all
Then what? Vibration like Chinjao? BrooooLastly whirlwind iron cutting fist doesn't fire air pressure
That says nothing about vibrations. It just says he times his heartbeat with his attacks, nothing saying he resists his own vibrations.
There's no way he isn't affected by vibrations released from his own body without either resisting it or his organs being durable enough to resist it.Newton's third law states that when two bodies interact, they apply forces to one another that are equal in magnitude and opposite in direction. The third law is also known as the law of action and reaction.
Garou just dodges again or can reflect his attack and dodge the dura negg. What's the point of FS if you can't keep up? And garou can jump speed tiers in milli seconds.Luffy sees Garou dodging in the future and attacks where he dodges lmfao.
He's still gonna eat some damage. Its not like he's immune. Add that you the fact that garou's AP is gonna be continuously increasing every milli second.Most is more than enough here lol.
Because Garou ain't blitzing nobody after "miliseconds" of fighting. Stop wanking his RE to actual nirvana and then some. Luffy attacks his insides dozens of times, future sight doesn't let Luffy get touched, Luffy's RE went from>blitzed and one-shot by Kaido to >Putting Kaido on his ass and getting KO'D to> Fighting on equal grounds and forcing Kaido to use empowerment, have a haki growth, and use like 4 states of his Shuron Hakke to fight Luffy in LITERAL MINUTES. (Less than 5 going by what Yamato said about Onigashima landing on the capital). His RE is just as busted. They'll cap at the highest 6A and keep getting faster against each other (because again- Luffy's RE also carried his ass from getting blitzed by a bagua with FUTURE SIGHT to moving so fast Thunder Bagua took like 5 panels to occur during his reaction).What stops Garou from blitzing him after milliseconds of fighting?
That's not how that works. Unless it's stated the vibrations have to be supported or sustained (similiar to Sanji saying he has to have that exoskeleton and armament to sustain his fire) then it ain't hurting him. By that logic Luffy's attacking his organs with every Ryuou attack and not even feeling it either because he lets it flow through his body before striking as well. Don't give Garou a feat based off an assumption.There's no way he isn't affected by vibrations released from his own body without either resisting it or his organs being durable enough to resist it.
"Garou just dodges again". Brother.Garou just dodges again or can reflect his attack and dodge the dura negg. What's the point of FS if you can't keep up? And garou can jump speed tiers in milli seconds.
And so will Luffy. "Milisecond" is a wank. Garou evolves in minutes at best, and so does Luffy. Again- they'll both hit the cap of the tier and just keep getting faster. Once Luffy is in Gear 5 Garou is basically not damaging him anymore because of his increased body control (to the point of breaking apart and remolding, awakening the environment itself to counter, etc).He's still gonna eat some damage. Its not like he's immune. Add that you the fact that garou's AP is gonna be continuously increasing every milli second.
But he actually did blitz someone after milliseconds of fighting lmao. Maybe read the manga before making stupid claims like "I'm wanking" thank you. Garou has went from being blitzed to blitzing in way more absurd timeframes. Like, literally seconds or less.Because Garou ain't blitzing nobody after "miliseconds" of fighting. Stop wanking his RE to actual nirvana and then some. Luffy attacks his insides dozens of times, future sight doesn't let Luffy get touched, Luffy's RE went from>blitzed and one-shot by Kaido to >Putting Kaido on his ass and getting KO'D to> Fighting on equal grounds and forcing Kaido to use empowerment, have a haki growth, and use like 4 states of his Shuron Hakke to fight Luffy in LITERAL MINUTES. (Less than 5 going by what Yamato said about Onigashima landing on the capital). His RE is just as busted. They'll cap at the highest 6A and keep getting faster against each other (because again- Luffy's RE also carried his ass from getting blitzed by a bagua with FUTURE SIGHT to moving so fast Thunder Bagua took like 5 panels to occur during his reaction).
You might be shocked to hear this, but fighting Luffy is way harder than fighting the "strongest creature" in his verse.
I'm not arguing AP, I'm arguing speed.These people who keep insisting that Garou can adapt and raise his AP and shit don't realize that having even planet level AP won't do shit because physical attacks can't hurt him. Any attack would either do nothing or just send him flying ( neither do anything unless you want to send him flying into something sharp )
I meant Tatsumi's statementI'm not arguing AP, I'm arguing speed.
Because those were miliseconds of actual fighting. He didn't get hit once and suddenly gow to blitz and one shot. Those miliseconds were basically "normal time" for Garou, Flashy Flash and PS.But he actually did blitz someone after milliseconds of fighting lmao. Maybe read the manga before making stupid claims like "I'm wanking" thank you. Garou has went from being blitzed to blitzing in way more absurd timeframes. Like, literally seconds or less.
And?? Luffy's fight with Kaido felt like damn hours with the sheer amount of things that were going on and it was all less than 5 minutes. "Miliseconds" or minutes are entirely dependant on what occurs in said timeframe. If Luffy and Garou fight at their own pace, they're BOTH getting the benefits via RE. The only reason the "miliseconds" logic exists is because the fight in real time was that fast while they had 2 different battles in that timeframe.Don't compare Luffy's RE to Garou's. You destroyed your own argument the moment you brought up "Minutes"
So am I. Luffy without FS or even Kenbun can react to FTE characters.I'm not arguing AP, I'm arguing speed.
Let's argue speed.I'm arguing speed.
False equivalence. Unless a character is a literal glass canon we scale their durability to their AP based on newtons 3rd law. Ryou is in no way any kind of conventional force, vibrations and shockwaves on the other hand are and are first of all propagated in garou's bodyThat's not how that works. Unless it's stated the vibrations have to be supported or sustained (similiar to Sanji saying he has to have that exoskeleton and armament to sustain his fire) then it ain't hurting him. By that logic Luffy's attacking his organs with every Ryuou attack and not even feeling it either because he lets it flow through his body before striking as well. Don't give Garou a feat based off an assumption
I have not seen new arguments that i havent seen already. If they have a contention then they can make a new thread. Stalling for no reason when people are already tired of this thread isnt fair.Most votes can be canceled if Argument Phoenks have made can counter Luffy's wincon with RE Garou.
Again y'all ignore me.Then what? Vibration like Chinjao? Broooo
If it's vibrations then Luffy's busoshoku tanks Hasshoken, which is based on vibrations that ignore durability and nail your shit inside out.False equivalence. Unless a character is a literal glass canon we scale their durability to their AP based on newtons 3rd law. Ryou is in no way any kind of conventional force, vibrations and shockwaves on the other hand are and are first of all propagated in garou's body
Garou's RE evolved so hard he's dragging this debate outGrace has 100% passed by now. Why yall still arguing this?
ong now who finna take initiative (and the heat from OPM supporters) and put the W on Luffy’s profileGarou's RE evolved so hard he's dragging this debate out
He's built different
Garou has never adapted to gain enough speed to blitz someone with layered Precognition that'll only continue to grow.I'm not arguing AP, I'm arguing speed.
You guys are just proclaiming the fact that you know nothing about OPM.Garou was FTL after he woke up. Started off nigh-equal to FF/PS
That's not a false equivalence at all so I'd suggest you learn to use that term properly. Secondly, no again you'd actually be wrong here. Newton's Third Law doesn't scale the organs of characters go AP, we've never scaled organs to the AP or durability of a character unless they're specifically stated to have durable organs.False equivalence. Unless a character is a literal glass canon we scale their durability to their AP based on newtons 3rd law. Ryou is in no way any kind of conventional force, vibrations and shockwaves on the other hand are and are first of all propagated in garou's body
This isn't AP though it's dura neggThat's not a false equivalence at all so I'd suggest you learn to use that term properly. Secondly, no again you'd actually be wrong here. Newton's Third Law doesn't scale the organs of characters go AP, we've never scaled organs to the AP or durability of a character unless they're specifically stated to have durable organs.
Which doesn't change my argument, if anything it goes against your own argument. You brought up Newton's Third Law which isn't even applicable to Durability Negation, and given the fact that Garou literally stated that organs in OPM (barring Saitama.) are incapable of increasing in Durability regardless of strength.This isn't AP though it's dura negg
"after he woke up" not after he fought bang. After he was CONSCIOUS as a half-monster. Garou was weakened the whole time because he was fighting Bang without any of his own consciousness to it. Garou always gets STRONGER after he awakens.Bang is only MHS+, garou went from fighting bang on almost equal footing to matching FF (0.55c) and PS when they made the first constellation. He only blitzed a few fodders (They're fodders relative to him at this point) before proceeding to fight FF and PS.
Are you trolling?And so will Luffy. "Milisecond" is a wank. Garou evolves in minutes at best, and so does Luffy