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Has anyone mentioned the fact Garou adapted to a morbillion x ap and speed difference. Oh he also has vibrations. So lets not downplay now biased OP fans.
 
Maid Mori Jin solos both Luffy and Garou by giving them a raging uncontrollable erection.
 
Why do I keep seeing Luffy wins in seconds due to duraneg?

He has never one shoted anyone of his same tier with his dura neg, he won’t magically do that here too.

And garou scales to a higher value of 6A also.

Someone about to bring garou statements about organs
 
Why do I keep seeing Luffy wins in seconds due to duraneg?

He has never one shoted anyone of his same tier with his dura neg, he won’t magically do that here too.

And garou scales to a higher value of 6A

Someone about to bring garou statements about organs
It was something about Luffy destroying Garou's skull with transmutation and ACoC
 
Luffy never destroyed Kaido skull with transmutation and ACoC it won’t happen here too
Kaidou has regeneration and his innards are just as tough as he is, Garou is not Kaidou.


Luffy hit Kaidou multiple times in the head and brain with his durability negation, Garou doesn't have the same luxuries as Kaidou does.
 
The Punch itself would absolutely hit Garou, he's a better striker than Luffy, he isn't better than dodging attack than Luffy. All Luffy would need to do is use FS to tell where Garou will dodge and attacks there.

Ryou isn't AP based, it's Durability Negation.
This is where skill comes into play. Garou absolutely skill stomps the verse. They're relative to eachother, just because luffy has FS doesn't mean his attacks are guaranteed to land. His movements are simple garou would still see through it and dodge even if luffy sees the future and chqnges where he is punching.
Ryou is dura negg soes that mean he's guaranteed to one shot? He's never one shorted anyone relative to him has he? Not to mention garou should have the higher AP value.
He's still resistant to Blunt Force, Luffy took several attacks from a Haki imbued Kaidou, and completely tanked them with G5.
He isn't immune but a 6-A needed to use Haki to hurt him when Luffy was wall level.
You're trying to tell me his rubber physiology negates up to 6A blunt force when he was only wall level? Isn't this a case of the 6A using wall level AP+ haki to bypass his physiology?


And during that time, Luffy will be also getting
How would he be getting faster he is already? Fluffy would eventually reach his max speed while garou would just keep evolving. He literally went from relativistic to FTL in a matter of milli seconds. How do you expect fluffy that has no such feats to match this?

I still vote for Garou FRA. He literally jumps tiers multiple times be it AP, Speed, LS, has a much superior RE, superior instinctive reactions and Analytical Prediction and God level skills compared to his opponent to match FS.

Also from what I see luffy has never one shotted anyone with ryou
 
" Garou skill stomps " - people who have never seen feats like Kaidou brutally slamming a cp0 agent into the roof of a castle and instantly killing them at full power, shredding him like actual paper, or Luffy stretching out Kaido's head and inflating his stomach and jumping out of his ******* eye sockets. And you people assume Garou can actually do something against this? It's a huge stomp.
 
" Garou skill stomps " - people who have never seen feats like Kaidou brutally slamming a cp0 agent into the roof of a castle and instantly killing them at full power, shredding him like actual paper, or Luffy stretching out Kaido's head and inflating his stomach and jumping out of his ******* eye sockets. And you people assume Garou can actually do something against this? It's a huge stomp.
How is Kaido one-shotting CP0 a skill feat?
 
This is where skill comes into play. Garou absolutely skill stomps the verse.
Skill Advantage =/= being untouchable.

Like i said, Luffy's better at dodging attacks than Garou is, and Garou has been tagged by much less skilled characters before.
They're relative to eachother, just because luffy has FS doesn't mean his attacks are guaranteed to land.
Relative, but Luffy starts off with speed amps, and again, has layered Precognition which Garou cannot counter.
His movements are simple.
Luffy's movements are not simple and are borderline unpredictable due to his Devil Fruit.
garou would still see through it and dodge even if luffy sees the future and chqnges where he is punching.
And in which case Garou would get heavily out predicted. Garou doesn't have feats of seeing through literal future sight, he's never done that at any point.
Ryou is dura negg soes that mean he's guaranteed to one shot? He's never one shorted anyone relative to him has he? Not to mention garou should have the higher AP value.
The only person who he used it against had regeneration + tough innards, so thats a really bad example.
You're trying to tell me his rubber physiology negates up to 6A blunt force when he was only wall level?
Yes, literally it's in a blog in his profile.
Isn't this a case of the 6A using wall level AP+ haki to bypass his physiology?
No, the AP he was unaffected by, Garp needed to use Haki to negate Luffy's resistance.
How would he be getting faster he is already?
Luffy also had RE albeit not as good, throughout the battle he'll only get faster and stronger. Garou adapts to get faster? Luffy's Kenbunshoku Haki adapts to counter it.
Fluffy would eventually reach his max speed while garou would just keep evolving.
NLF, neither one of them have indefinite evolution.
He literally went from relativistic to FTL in a matter of milli seconds. How do you expect fluffy that has no such feats to match this?
Luffy has similar feats of overcoming speed gaps like that, he's gone from being thousands of times slower than his opponent to being comparable.
I still vote for Garou FRA. He literally jumps tiers multiple times be it AP, Speed, LS, has a much superior RE, superior instinctive reactions and Analytical Prediction and God level skills compared to his opponent to match FS.
Garou once again, does not have the better Analytical Prediction, not sure what makes you think his IR is better whenever Luffy has two forms of IR.
Also from what I see luffy has never one shotted anyone with ryou
Again, Kaidou had regeneration. Garou's regeneration isn't nearly as good as Kaidou's.
 
Didn't you say his organs were simply being durable enough to "tank" Luffy's attacks.
I said it was both, he has regeneration but his innards are sturdy as well, not quite to the same degree as his scales but still tough nonetheless.
 
Kaidou has regeneration
Garou does too, he could regenerate lost limbs
and his innards are just as tough as he is,
Proof?
Lol if his innards are as tough as he is, why would luffy try to use an attack bypassing his exterior durability???

Luffy hit Kaidou multiple times in the head and brain with his durability negation, Garou doesn't have the same luxuries as Kaidou does.
Or the the duraneg is not enough for a one shot
 
Garou does too, he could regenerate lost limbs
And basic armament can turn that regeneration off.
Proof?
Lol if his innards are as tough as he is, why would luffy try to use an attack bypassing his exterior durability???
?????????? You know what Ryuou DOES, right?
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Nothing short of LITERAL OBLITERATION of the target's insides. Kaido tanks that a bajillion times and continues fighting anyway because mythical zoan recovery+regen dwarves regular and ancients.
Or the the duraneg is not enough for a one shot
See above.
It SHOULD be. He took dozens of Ryuou hits, a literal gamma radiation explosion to the heart and throat, sonic scythes through his organs that should shred them. The dude was more annoyed than anything.
Kaido's just built stupid as hell like that. Hell, ignore Kaido for two seconds and go to a less durable character, Big Mom.
Her brain and insides tank shock wille/puncture wille, which do this:
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And that shit serves to piss her off only
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Yonko insides are built different. It isn't that Luffy's Ryuou isn't good, we've seen HOW good it is. It's that Kaido/Linlin are just walking tanking tanks inside and out.
 
And basic armament can turn that regeneration off.
Oh that’s not something that should be removed soon lol
If it turned it off why was Kaidou regeneration not turned off??
What’s with you guys and roundabout arguments, it did not turn of Kaidou regen but it will turn off Garou regen?
?????????? You know what Ryuou DOES, right?
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Nothing short of LITERAL OBLITERATION of the target's insides. Kaido tanks that a bajillion times and continues fighting anyway because mythical zoan recovery+regen dwarves regular and ancients.
Yes sure, obliterated a tree = obliterate inners of a continental being
See above.
It SHOULD be. He took dozens of Ryuou hits, a literal gamma radiation explosion to the heart and throat, sonic scythes through his organs that should shred them. The dude was more annoyed than anything.
Kaido's just built stupid as hell like that. Hell, ignore Kaido for two seconds and go to a less durable character, Big Mom.
Her brain and insides tank shock wille/puncture wille, which do this:
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And that shit serves to piss her off only
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Yonko insides are built different. It isn't that Luffy's Ryuou isn't good, we've seen HOW good it is. It's that Kaido/Linlin are just walking tanking tanks inside and out.
Or their inners are also almost as durable as their exteriors logically?
As any attacks you throw your head interior would still take a portion of the attack you are throwing.

Also she was so pissed because she was badly damaged not cause she was unharmed

Also their inners are less durable than their exteriors does not mean it is 2 tiers apart as if it was, their inners would be puddle.
 
Oh that’s not something that should be removed soon lol
Go ahead and try, you'd get clown'd on.
If it turned it off why was Kaidou regeneration not turned off??
Because Kaidou for

1: Has stronger Haki than them

2: His Regeneration isn't the type of which Haki negates.
What’s with you guys and roundabout arguments, it did not turn of Kaidou regen but it will turn off Garou regen?
They aren't roundabout, you just fail to understand the context properly.
Yes sure, obliterated a tree = obliterate inners of a continental being
A 3-A would have mushy insides regardless of durability. The innards are always assumed to soft and vulnerable unless stated otherwise.
Or their inners are also almost as durable as their exteriors logically?
As I said, they are durable as **** but not quite to the extent as the outer layer.
As any attacks you throw your head interior would still take a portion of the attack you are throwing.
Wanna restructure that sentence to make it a bit more coherent? Literally can't understand what your trying to say.
 
Oh that’s not something that should be removed soon lol
If it turned it off why was Kaidou regeneration not turned off??
What’s with you guys and roundabout arguments, it did not turn of Kaidou regen but it will turn off Garou regen?
Because it's a common thing in One Piece verse that Haki=/=Haki. Kaido is passively so Haki coated Law's space manip can't even budge him. Aka: resistance to resistance negation
Yes sure, obliterated a tree = obliterate inners of a continental being
It's portrayed consistently to be that. It scales to Luffy's bare handed AP. It's shown obliterating a cube when it's being talked about as well. Ryuou's consistently shown to literally violently fragment or fully obliterate things.
Or their inners are also almost as durable as their exteriors logically?
As any attacks you throw your head interior would still take a portion of the attack you are throwing.
That changes that how? Her innards still tanked an attack that either obliterated or vaporized kilometers of rock (even greater if you count the depth considering it reaches 20+KM)
Also she was so pissed because she was badly damaged not cause she was unharmed
Not harmed enough to be incapped. Her organs were fine, outside of the obvious blood coughing. It didn't GREATLY damage her when it hit her base form or her bigger form. She got hit by 2 shock willes to the brain and a puncture wille to the center of her chest and literally shrugged it all off.
Also their inners are less durable than their exteriors does not mean it is 2 tiers apart as if it was, their inners would be puddle.
That literally changes nothing about what LUFFY can do. Just because they have haki to counter and have regen doesn't mean Garou can resist HIS regen getting negged, has insides as strong as theirs, OR can tank barrages of dura neg based attacks.
Luffy literally stretched his fist into the back of Kaido's skull and flattened his brain. Kaido was more bothered by Luffy's laughing than he was by the punch. Yonko insides are built different.
That's not an anti-feat for Ryuou or Luffy's own awakening, it's a feat for their resistance.
 
A 3-A would have mushy insides regardless of durability. The innards are always assumed to soft and vulnerable unless stated otherwise.
Best example is Bang fighting Garou nearly on par but Garou's dura neg was stated to be able to basically destroy his bones and whatnot if he got hit directly. It's made clear as day that his insides don't scale to his exterior durability.
This assumption that everyone's organs scale to their regular bodies is so weird tbh
 
Can’t be bother by the rest of the thread as I already said Luffy FRA I’m not here to argue for garou but this tho
2: His Regeneration isn't the type of which Haki negates.
He is a zoan and regeneration comes to him naturally
Garou is a monster and regeneration also comes to him naturally.
 
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