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Yeah i guess they'd still have the shields and such, i think they set them up only after Wanda started attacking anyways
So i guess the fight would really go almost identically, although maybe without cannons so i guess more of the sorcerers could survive due to not getting hit by reflected cannonballs
 
Imagine kamar-taj vs first movie avengers lol

Yeah i guess they'd still have the shields and such, i think they set them up only after Wanda started attacking anyways
So i guess the fight would really go almost identically, although maybe without cannons so i guess more of the sorcerers could survive due to not getting hit by reflected cannonballs
Yeah that really backfired on them no pun intended but she was always going to absolutely stomp
 
Well they could block Wanda's attacks so i guess they'd be 6-C with shields together
AP wise they could probably just downscale from some sorcerers like pre-infinity war strange
Including Strange in their ranks the AP section would be

9-A up to likely 6-C with magic

With 9-C up to 8-C durability physically and 7-B with shields and ar least 6-C with combined shields
 
Should it have two or more Keys?

Ancient One, Mordo, Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (DS1) All Sorcerers allied with Kamar Taj present during DS1

Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (Post DS1/Ragnarok to IW) Strange's term as Sorcerer Supreme with Wong

Wong, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (IW to EG) Wong's at most 5 year term as Sorcerer Supreme without Strange

Wong, Strange, Chavez, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (MoM) As of the ending of MoM
 
Should it have two or more Keys?

Ancient One, Mordo, Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (DS1) All Sorcerers allied with Kamar Taj present during DS1

Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (Post DS1/Ragnarok to IW) Strange's term as Sorcerer Supreme with Wong

Wong, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (IW to EG) Wong's at most 5 year term as Sorcerer Supreme without Strange

Wong, Strange, Chavez, & Fodder Sorcerers, etc. (MoM) As of the ending of MoM
It definitely needs more than two keys although I'd say 3 keys is likely best as Wongs term is still ongoing in NWH and MoMmy so we could just combine those with the 3rd one you suggested


Apologies for the late responses btw lol, still got 3 hours left to go then I'll be off work
 
Wongs term is still ongoing in NWH and MoMmy so we could just combine those with the 3rd one you suggested
This is Kamar Taj's composition during events in the MCU

Kamar Taj during the entirety of DS1 was composed of the Ancient One, Mordo, Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Kamar Taj post DS1, Ragnarok, and early in IW was composed of Strange, Wong, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Kamar Taj lost Strange early in IW and only had him back by the end of EG, after 5 Years. So during those 5 years Kamar Taj was only composed of Wong & Fodder Sorcerers.

Kamar Taj during the events post EG, entirety of NWH, and early in MoM was composed of Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Kamar Taj during the end of MoM was composed of Wong, Strange, Chavez, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Make of this what you will
 
I feel like Post IW can be skipped, i don't think we ever had any moments of them at that point
So something like this:

Doctor Strange
Kamar Taj during the entirety of DS1 was composed of the Ancient One, Mordo, Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Post Doctor Strange to Infinity War
Kamar Taj post DS1, Ragnarok, and early in IW was composed of Strange, Wong, & Fodder Sorcerers.

Post Endgame to No Way Home
Kamar Taj during the events post EG, entirety of NWH, and early in MoM was composed of Wong, Strange, & Fodder Sorcerers.

End of Multiverse of Madness
Kamar Taj during the end of MoM was composed of Wong, Strange, Chavez, & Fodder Sorcerers.
 
Kamar taj has like all the cannons and shit and is a whole fortress but what about the sanctum should we have that listed also?
 
Kamar taj has like all the cannons and shit and is a whole fortress but what about the sanctum should we have that listed also?
I think so because they're connected to Kamar Taj via Door Portalsp, they're where the head of the other divisions (New York, London, and Hong Kong) of Sorcerers seem to stay, and they also possess their own sets of mystical artifacts.
 
I think so because they're connected to Kamar Taj via Door Portalsp, they're where the head of the other divisions (New York, London, and Hong Kong) of Sorcerers seem to stay, and they also possess their own sets of mystical artifacts.
Alrighty that's going on the list(mental list since I'm at work)
 
I'd say that she was, or at the very least very near her peak
Personally believe that's pretty doubtful since Odin destroyed Surtur who had the eternal flame when they fought very nearly killing him with everyone thinking he had done so and Hela was stronger than a prime warring and conquering Odin in her prime meaning she should also be able to handle Surtur at her full power so considering when he got the eternal flame he 1 shot her pretty casually I'd say she's not near her full power
 
I'd say that she was, or at the very least very near her peak
But what about Odin's statement? Where a younger Odin at the height of his power couldn't stop Hela, who was more or less stated by both Valkyrie and Odin to have grown too powerful to control, and sealed her away instead.

An Odin that beat Surtur who had the Eternal Flame, who took Surtur's power and left him mortally wounded.
 
Personally believe that's pretty doubtful since Odin destroyed Surtur who had the eternal flame when they fought very nearly killing him with everyone thinking he had done so and Hela was stronger than a prime warring and conquering Odin in her prime meaning she should also be able to handle Surtur at her full power so considering when he got the eternal flame he 1 shot her pretty casually I'd say she's not near her full power
But what about Odin's statement? Where a younger Odin at the height of his power couldn't stop Hela, who was more or less stated by both Valkyrie and Odin to have grown too powerful to control, and sealed her away instead.

An Odin that beat Surtur who had the Eternal Flame, who took Surtur's power and left him mortally wounded.
Aight fair enough, I'm an idiot and didn't think it through.
She did still injure Eternal Flame Surtur with her attacks, but yeah, she's not at her peak yet
 
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