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Yeah.
I love the idea that Boros will be able to go Low 5B, for a grand total of 0.0000000002 seconds. He's going to get curbstomped by any other Low 5B character that can react to him.
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Scaling Boros to Orochi
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I love the idea that Boros will be able to go Low 5B, for a grand total of 0.0000000002 seconds. He's going to get curbstomped by any other Low 5B character that can react to him.
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Then please comrade, join the fight here.
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i already tried with tracer, the upscaling rules are dumb, not tracers fault. The dumb thing tho is boros leg kick. Leg kick has to be a decent amount quicker than the time it took to launch saitama. which would get FTL results(pretty sure).
You could have a 100 character scaling chain and they would still deny 1.3x upscale due to the margin being to "big"...(atleast with lord tracers logic)
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I did the calc some time ago. No calc dudes evaluated it yet
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You can bump it if it’s been more than 2 months.
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I did it 8 days ago
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Lord Tracer says you can't "add a random multiplier" and "that's not how upscaling works", but when I asked for clarification, nothing. In Naruto, we have a dude one-two shot a bunch of Moon+ characters and get Small Planet level, and yet we have a character hugely faster (MB) than a character that is hugely faster (RB) than a guy that is hugely faster (AB) than a character that is Relativistic+, and we can't even get Sol?
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While that scaling chain would work, neither Released Boros or Armored Boros are Rel+
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It wouldn't in this case, as Boros' energy acts as a propulsive force. His leg and Saitama are moving as fast as his energy allows them to, and his energy only has Rel+ and SoL statements behind it.
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his energy would propel his legs to be > than him cuz thats kinda the point of it...would it not.
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Ignoring the fact that the god tiers will be revised and likely downgraded, therefore making this entire argument invalid, I assume you’re talking about Isshiki, who is only ‘likely Small Planet level.’
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You're getting the order confused. Boros' energy acts as a amplification force that moves him far beyond his body's normal limits. Boros' energy was also noted as being wrapped around Saitama and its friction ignoring properties are what allowed him to move at such high speeds.
Boros himself doesn't really move at Rel+ in the same way Superman does. He uses his energy to basically push him really fast. So his leg wouldn't need to be moving faster than Saitama, his leg would just need to impart his energy into Saitama and let that move him.
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Bruh, that’s not my logic, that’s just how it works. And I didn’t say it would be denied, I said you’d only BARELY get to upscale with a 1.3x difference. You were trying to upscale a >2x difference.
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Then why would Boros not be "likely speed of light?"
Also, until their god tiers are downgraded, that means pretty much nothing.
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Then with that same logic wouldn't boros' energy need to be moving faster.
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The energy would just be moving at SoL or near-light speed. Since it ignores friction there's no requirement for it to move notably faster at impact.
A car hitting you at 60 MPH doesn't mean that the car was actually 78 MPH.
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Because you can’t upscale from a possibly rating, as I already told you. Isshiki upscales from characters that are fully Moon level+, and even then, he only gets a likely rating.
Also, something you failed to acknowledge, is that the Moon level+ value that the Naruto god tiers scale to is only 1.03x away from baseline Small Planet level. That absolutely warrants upscaling.
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if the car was propelled quicker than it can go cuz it had nos in the back then it would be quicker.
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The chain doesn’t matter when the value is as big as 2x, like you were trying to do. A 1.3x difference can likely upscale with a decent scaling chain or stomp chain (like MB Boros and Tatsumaki did when Orochi was 5-C+), but a 2x difference absolutely can’t.
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bruh are u not listening.
the thing i quoted was u talking about likely boros and tats and that they can't upscale(solidly). so like pick a side plz.
bruh are u not listening part 2.
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It might count if it was the anime, but if you look Saitama was knocked back but not sent flying back. His head is cocked back but his feet are still on the ground.
While true, none of Boros' previous forms are Rel+
There's just not upscaling that can be had here unless I'm missing something.
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and this would matter why?
not upscaling its a boros "nos" kick>rel+ boros form.
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Because that's how you'd get him to be FTL. By being vastly superior to people who are near-lightspeed.
Like I said, his kick isn't what is fast but his energy. Something that wouldn't vary in speed.
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this makes no sense to me, i am confusion
theres like no scaling involved.his kicks propel the energy to be faster tho which u literally made the boros calc. in which the energy launching saitama propelled from his kick is > ur boros calc.
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Don't agree with Boros being FTL via this weird logic, but I disagree with some of the counter-arguments here; Boros' attacks may bypass friction, but they don't negate inertia. Even if Boros didn't have the same aura he uses to kick people, he should still at least somewhat scale.
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You got it backwards. The energy propels Boros' kick to be faster. The energy is also what allowed Saitama to move at near-light speeds. There's just no upscaling involved here.
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I'm not implying he isn't rel+, I'm just disagreeing with the calc that says Boros should be 6x FTL because of the kick.
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sorry got it backwards but my point still stands. the energy still has to be moving faster. there is no upscaling cuz there are calcs.
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well then there gotta be some other calc method cuz that specific feat outclasses his current speed.
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That I can get behind.
He'd just be a higher level of Rel+ due to how Rel KE works.
He'd just be a higher level of Rel+ due to how Rel KE works.
It just has to move at the same speed. If it was faster, how would it even work?
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but like whats the explanation behind this reasoning. cuz not trying to be rude but the argument was, his energy makes his kick faster...but...not faster.
cuz thats how movement works.
like how am i suppose to explain this without just saying physics.
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Simple, it clings to his body.
Which I disagree with.
I kind of get what you mean due to relative motion, but Boros' body is the thing that's projecting the aura. All he'd need to do is continually manifest it around him at the same speed and the distance would remain the same.cuz thats how movement works.
Edit: I very badly misspoke here. What I meant to say is that it wouldn't have to travel faster, relative motion would do that for him since his body is the thing that's projecting it.
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By it do you mean the energy? but like the energy is still faster...
would he tho...i mean u mentioned relative motion which this scenario doesn't differ from any other scenario and the energy with his kick is still by default quicker than anything else.
yeah his body is projecting it in which it is traveling faster. at this point were going in circles with ur claims not making sense in my head and maybe vice versa for u. whether there was energy or not that doesn't change the fact that with physics his leg still has to be moving quicker.
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If you throw a ball at a relative speed of 40 m/s while in a car that's going at 140 m/s, the ball will move at 180 m/s.
Yes it does. Just because his aura is faster on himself, that doesn't mean it's faster on Saitama. In his case, he was surrounded by energy that's going at the same speed as himself.
Why would his leg have to be going quicker due to this? What you're saying literally suggests the opposite.
Yes it does. Just because his aura is faster on himself, that doesn't mean it's faster on Saitama. In his case, he was surrounded by energy that's going at the same speed as himself.
Why would his leg have to be going quicker due to this? What you're saying literally suggests the opposite.
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More like, if you throw a ball at 40 m/s downwards and the car is flying upwards at 140 m/s. Then to launch the ball up at such power needs more speed.
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Is the calc legit? I personally don't understand the premise it is based on. Your arm doesn't need to move subsonic speeds to propel a base ball to this degree of speed. I don't see why Boros' kick would be any different.
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