One Piece Chapter 1045: "Next Level" (Official Release)

[KingTempest]

Luffy's Post Timeskips profile have a lot of problems as well, it's not just outdated.

"Fought and overpowered Overdosed Hody" and then you go to Hody's profile only to find there's not even a single link to justify his ratings.

???
Overdosed Hody's justification is this

City level (Consumed at least 5 Energy Steroids, which are capable of multiplying a user's body two-fold, which should make Hody at least 32x stronger than before. Due to consuming a large number of these in a short period of time, Hody should at least be this powerful)

Scaling him above base Hody, which has this justification

Large Town level+ (His attacks force Usopp to dodge his attacks to avoid harm. Could harm King Neptune who Usopp was afraid of)

Luffy's speed and lifting ratings have no proper justifications as well

Speed: Relativistic with at least Relativistic+ Reactions (While tired, he kept up with Cavendish. With his Reactions, he dodged attacks from Katakuri. Can react to the speeds of his higher forms), at least Relativistic+ with Gear 2nd or Soru (Blitzed a Pacifista. Faster than his younger self. With Soru, he blitzed Smoker in Tashigi's body who could keep up with base Luffy), far higher with Gear 4th: Boundman (Boundman blitzed Doflamingo from hundreds of meters away. Outsped Charlotte Cracker's Biscuit Soldiers) | Relativistic with at least Relativistic+ Reactions (Faster than before), at least Relativistic+ with Gear 2nd or Soru (Faster than before), far higher with Gear 4th: Boundman (Faster than before), even higher with Gear 4th: Snakeman (Stated to be faster than Gear 4th: Boundman) | Relativistic with at least Relativistic+ Reactions (Far faster than before), at least Relativistic+ with Gear 2nd or Soru (Far faster than before), far higher with Gear 4th: Boundman (Far faster than before), even higher with Gear 4th: Snakeman (Far faster than before)

Lifting Strength: At least Class G (Far stronger than his Pre-Timeskip version), Class T with Gear 4th: Boundman (Broke Doflamingo's threads with brute force) | At least Class G (Stronger than before), Class T with Gear 4th: Boundman (Stronger than before) | At least Class G (Far stronger than before), Class T with Gear 4th: Boundman (His strength was complimented by Eustass Kid with Punk Rotten, who could overpower a strike from Big Mom and flip Full Zoan Kaido)

and that has been annoying me for a while because I can't even go and fix the profile since it's locked.

???

His profile is... perfectly fine

 

[SnookB]

Guys we're gonna still wait until this form is done done. I wanna see if there's anything else in Wano to add so we can add 1 big revision on Gear 5th's capabilities

Second this. Between 2 chapters Luffy showed so many things. Who knows what the next one(s) have in store.

 

[Antvasima]

Luffy's Post Timeskips profile have a lot of problems as well, it's not just outdated.

"Fought and overpowered Overdosed Hody" and then you go to Hody's profile only to find there's not even a single link to justify his ratings.

Luffy's speed and lifting ratings have no proper justifications as well, and that has been annoying me for a while because I can't even go and fix the profile since it's locked.

You just have to ask me or Damage here to unlock it if you wish to make straightforward corrections.

However, KingTempest seems to consider it unnecessary.

 

[KingTempest]

There isn't... anything that needs to be corrected though?

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I noticed that after reading your post.

 

[GodlyCharmander]

Tempest is literally the GOAT when it comes to One Piece pages, if anything was wrong, or unjustified in a page as relevant as Luffy's, he'd have fixed it already.

 

[Therefir]

???
Overdosed Hody's justification is this

Scaling him above base Hody, which has this justification





???

His profile is... perfectly fine

That's ridiculous, in Hody's profile there's no link or calculation explaining how is he even High 7-C in the first place.

 

[Eminiteable]

That's ridiculous, in Hody's profile there's no link or calculation explaining how is he even High 7-C in the first place.

he scales to Usopp

 

[Antvasima]

Would somebody be willing to clarify that then please?

 

[Eminiteable]

Would somebody be willing to clarify that then please?

it's already on the profile

 

[Therefir]

he scales to Usopp

Then link Usopp to his profile.

Which still wouldn't explain jack shit because Usopp is High 7-C+ because he "can harms Oars".

And then you go to Oars' profile only to find: Can harm those who hurt him, like Zoro and Sanji. Shouldn’t be vastly weaker than Asgard Moria.

Like Wtf?

 

[Antvasima]

Then link Usopp to his profile.

Which still wouldn't explain jack shit because Usopp is High 7-C+ because he "can harms Oars".

And then you go to Oars' profile only to find: Can harm those who hurt him, like Zoro and Sanji. Shouldn’t be vastly weaker than Asgard Moria.

Like Wtf?

That does sound pretty confusing, yes.

Everybody please remember that we should always try to make the reasons for allstatistics easy to understand for casual visitors, not just diehard members.

 

[Fireld]

Did Kaido just confirm this chapter that no one alive can beat him

Kaido debunked the Big Mon stans, hehe

He ran in the air and was also burned to a crisp and shook it off.

I thought he recovered from being burned before he started to run in air. Speaking of which, what's more absurd: The Spongebob gang running underwear so fast that the seafloor combust into flames or Luffy running fast enough to travel in on thin air(in a simular way of moving to Roadrunner)while burning said air.

I am suprised nobody is mentioning how Luffy achived the status of god much earlier in his career than Goku

 

[KingTempest]

That's ridiculous, in Hody's profile there's no link or calculation explaining how is he even High 7-C in the first place.

Hody

Attack Potency: Large Town level+ (His attacks force Usopp to dodge his attacks to avoid harm. Could harm King Neptune who Usopp was afraid of)

Usopp

Large Town level+ (Could take a hit from his Firebird attack) | Large Town level+ (Took hits from Trebol for a long period of time)

2 different versions of scaling for Usopp.

Spoiler: Usopp's First Section

Large Town level+ (Together with Franky, they created a combined attack that harmed Oars)

So combined force = Oars
Oars

Attack Potency: Small City level (Can harm those who hurt him, like Zoro and Sanji. Shouldn’t be vastly weaker than Asgard Moria)

Asgard Moria

Small City level (Split Thriller Bark with a single punch)

Spoiler: Usopp's Second Section

Large Town level+ (Took hits from Trebol for a long period of time)

Trebol

Attack Potency: Large Town level+ (As a Chief Officer, he should be superior to the likes of the Lower Class executives like Lao G, Dellinger, Senor Pink, and Baby 5)

Baby 5

Attack Potency: Large Town level+ (Capable of clashing with No-Haki Sai for an extended period of time)

Sai

Attack Potency: Large Town level+ (Superior to Post-Colosseum Chinjao and should be superior to base Lao G, since he deflected his full powered attack)

Lao G

Attack Potency: City level (Can draw blood from Post-Colosseum Chinjao and fought against him for a long period of time)

Chinjao

Large Town level+ (Comparable to Elizabello II, as the two of them applied equal force on Pica's Golem Arm which is capable of doing this)

Idkwytb

 

[SnookB]

Then link Usopp to his profile.

Which still wouldn't explain jack shit because Usopp is High 7-C+ because he "can harms Oars".

And then you go to Oars' profile only to find: Can harm those who hurt him, like Zoro and Sanji. Shouldn’t be vastly weaker than Asgard Moria.

Like Wtf?

He scales to usopp, who could harm Oars alongside Franky. Oars who scales over Zoro and Sanji, who scale over the rest of the straw hats, including Robin who can defeat Pel, who tanked a 7-C nuke
Then his scale doubles
Then he becomes higher based on the pills having a x2 amp and him eating a big amount enough to cover x32.

It's all right there. The scaling chain isn't even that long.

 

[KingTempest]

Also.

Whenever you are uninformed about the One Piece scaling
Go to the verse page

• The higher High 7-C+'s like Elizabello II and Post-Colosseum Chinjao are scaled to be 1/2 as strong as Pica's Calc (845 Kilotons)

We have everything figured out.

 

[Therefir]

To find their exact values you have to go through several profiles that are not even linked to each other.

That's bad, can't we just link the calcs to the profiles themselves?

 

[SnookB]

Kaido debunked the Big Mon stans, hehe

That's actually consistent with what Oden said. He said if he loses to Kaido, no one alive will be able to defeat him.

 

[KingTempest]

To find the exact value, go to the verse page

We have 200+ One Piece profiles. If yall have the time for that, go ahead

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, if the verse page lists all of the relevant calculations, it is probably fine.

 

[Fireld]

That's actually consistent with what Oden said. He said if he loses to Kaido, no one alive will be able to defeat him.

TBF Oden said if he didn't beat nobody beat Kaido, nobody would(not no one alive). It's a bit vaguer as he could've refered to the people currently avaibile by his side(WB was away from Wano & Roger was already dead). This new statement really puts the nail in the coffin for Kaido.

 

[Therefir]

Yes, if the verse page lists all of the relevant calculations, it is probably fine.

I added more links and justifications since people would still check the profiles independently of the verse page.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for helping out.

 

[Eminiteable]

Fan translations are out

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

If Kaido is about 1 Kilometer long, then Gigant Luffy is likely a few hundreds of meters tall, taller than any known Giant, except maybe full sized San Juan Wolf.

But sizes can be inconsistent so unlikely.

 

[theultimate5105]

If Kaido is about 1 Kilometer long, then Gigant Luffy is likely a few hundreds of meters tall, taller than any known Giant, except maybe full sized San Juan Wolf.

But sizes can be inconsistent so unlikely.

It would also make normal luffy dozens of meters tall as shown by literally every shot of him being next to Kaidos head

 

[GodlyCharmander]

It would also make normal luffy dozens of meters tall as shown by literally every shot of him being next to Kaidos head

Kaido's head is about ~60m tall.

 

[theultimate5105]

Kaido's head is about ~60m tall.

Yes you can see Kaidos head next to luffy in so many panels and Luffy is not That much smaller then it

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

So it's confirmed by Kaido that Luffy is continuously utilizing Armament and Conquerors while in Gear 5th.

 

[Magmag]

The form is taking quite some stamina from him. i dont think he'll hold up for much longer if im being honest.

 

[Magmag]

When Momonosuke said Luffy's voice is fading, what does he mean by that exactly?
Luffy using the heartbeat revive thing is probs killing him like crazy, kaido even mention hes gonna die, luffy aint scared of death, which makes me believe G5>anyother gear in draining his lifespan.

 

[Therefir]

The form is taking quite some stamina from him. i dont think he'll hold up for much longer if im being honest.

It's the contrary, that form is what keeping Luffy alive and kicking.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Yeah Momo was saying that Luffy's voice was fading whenever he reverted to base form.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

This was the goofiest chapter I’ve ever seen

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

It seems that Gear 5 is an all white transformation not yellow. Master ultra instinct luffy? We also got old luffy and pinhead luffy this chapter.

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

It seems that Gear 5 is an all white transformation not yellow. Master ultra instinct luffy? We also got old luffy and pinhead luffy this chapter.

Oh I get it

Luffy's white because he's like a literal cartoony Manga Drawing

 

[Nierre]

or like those old cartoons that were black and white

 

[Magmag]

It's the contrary, that form is what keeping Luffy alive and kicking.

Then what about him in base…cuz his voice was fading. Ur saying he’s dying if he’s in base form?

 

[Bernkastelll]

ok luffy has toon force now can we give 1-A ratings then?

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

I get it now, the original Joyboy was Mickey Mouse

I mean Mickey Mouse was on a boat in his first ever cartoon