One Piece Chapter 1142 Spoilers

[KingTempest]

I'd say that the island as a whole is a couple hundred of kilometers across. It's not planet-sized unless Oda has truly lost all sense of scale at last.

Oda is fitting crows the size of the Merry inside of prison cells inside of massively bigger buildings that are dwarved by an individual branch that is dwarved by this massive tree

Hundreds of kilometers works but like... Oda HAS lost all sense of scale

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Oda is fitting crows the size of the Merry inside of prison cells inside of massively bigger buildings that are dwarved by an individual branch that is dwarved by this massive tree

Hundreds of kilometers works but like... Oda HAS lost all sense of scale

One Piece is cartoon in Japanese style so sense doesn't matter anymore#run

 

[Imaginym]

We know the heights of some characters in Elbaf, right? Like Hajrudin?

 

[KingTempest]

We know the heights of some characters in Elbaf, right? Like Hajrudin?

Every giant is so inconsistent that idec no more

 

[Imaginym]

Every giant is so inconsistent that idec no more

They are?

 

[KingTempest]

They are?

Yes

 

[Imaginym]

Yes

I would like to know examples, please, if you'll forgive my asking.
Sorry for any bother.
If you prefer to refuse, that is fine. (Albeit, disappointing to me, personally.)

 

[KingTempest]

I would like to know examples, please, if you'll forgive my asking.
Sorry for any bother.
If you prefer to refuse, that is fine. (Albeit, disappointing to me, personally.)

These guys are 20 meters tall bigger than a 56 meter ship
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The big dude with the beard is 20 meters tall. Brogy to his left that is half of his height is 21 meters tall

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There's a lot more but I'm watching code geass so yeah

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

bro is still growing in his elderly age

 

[Imaginym]

These guys are 20 meters tall bigger than a 56 meter ship
https://media.**********.net/attachments/1347619438215692460/1347619873240383671/Screenshot_2025-03-06_at_5.png?ex=67cc7c4f&is=67cb2acf&hm=8d78f9f86147d23d5495941b76dc8b2c6536db4255cea0a2df00bb309ae91a24&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=352&height=469

The big dude with the beard is 20 meters tall. Brogy to his left that is half of his height is 21 meters tall

https://media.**********.net/attachments/1347619438215692460/1347620228082962532/1135-017.png?ex=67cc7ca3&is=67cb2b23&hm=cace4a5f39b6e6fd057c0807017fe8988f3c2cee52cf26bff6e14e72acf6c754&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1051&height=1534


There's a lot more but I'm watching code geass so yeah

Sheesh. Oda just draws them as whatever height & ascribes whatever height in the Vivre Cards to them, doesn't he?

Thank you very much for answering, nonetheless.

Also, I do wonder what, if anything, someone 400 years old may know about The Void Century of 800 to 900 years ago...? (Sorry if I've got the dates wrong. Then again, who's to say how well-documented things were back then, let alone for giants, no offense meant.)

Though, wouldn't this inconsistent approach to heights mean even an official statement of Elbaf's size couldn't be trusted to be reliable, either?

 

[Stefano4444]

I'd say that the island as a whole is a couple hundred of kilometers across. It's not planet-sized unless Oda has truly lost all sense of scale at last.

Sound a reasonable conservate estimate, and its consistent as is not unusual for OP's islands to end up between a few to dozens of kilometers in diameter.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I think they'll be revisions on vivrecards on their heights tho

 

[Imaginym]

I think they'll be revisions on vivrecards on their heights tho

How?
If the visual heights are inconsistent with the Vivre Cards, then what basis is there to trust the Vivre Cards? Even if they are primary canon, feats before statements, right?

 

[KingTempest]

Though, wouldn't this inconsistent approach to heights mean even an official statement of Elbaf's size couldn't be trusted to be reliable, either?

Oda rarely gives official statements of sizes of landmarks. But even if he did, it'd be trusted until proven it can't.

It's not like we don't trust the heights of Luffy or sum. It's just that the giants are dangerously inconsistent in size, and their sizes are now too inconsistent to stand.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

If the visual heights are inconsistent with the Vivre Cards, then what basis is there to trust the Vivre Cards? Even if they are primary canon, feats before statements, right?

feats are definitely not above statements... Feats are always up to interpretation, while statements basically aren't

Without any statements whatsoever, feats are simply head canon interpretation of what's happening/we are seeing
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D: ナミを動けなくしていたガレットの能力が気になります。シャーロット家は能力者が多いですね。P.N.おだマニア

0: ガレットは〝バタバタの実〟のパター人間。バターを操ります。答えはパターです。確かにちょいちょい能力者いるんですけど、いちいち説明してると話が進まないので、ストーリーにあんまり関わって来ないものは、勢いで読んでください!細かい所も知りたい人の為には、SBSやONEPIECE図鑑もありますので!!
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D: I am curious about Galette's ability to keep Nami stuck. The Charlotte family has many abilities. p.n. Odamania

0: Galette is a butter human who uses her "Butter Butter Fruit" to manipulate butter. She can control butter. So, the answer is butter. There are many people with abilities, but I can't go on with the story if I explain each and every one of them. For those who want to know the details, there are the SBS and the ONEPIECE illustrated book! (Vivre Card)

The creator himself views the vivrecard as important information that can't be fit into the story, It's something we turn to and are supposed to turn to when we don't have all the info in the manga is Oda's intention and purpose of it

That's why I said there will probably be revisions on vivrecards as it's shown to be different in the manga currently on the height of Jarul and Brogy

 

[Imaginym]

feats are definitely not above statements... Feats are always up to interpretation, while statements basically aren't

I had thought we had some rule or policy page as such, although, in my brief searching, I've only found this:

Editing Rules

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• "Author statements will only be accepted when they clarify what has been shown or implied in the series itself, and will be rejected when they contradict what has been shown to the audience. Statements that technically do not contradict anything shown in the series will still be rejected if there is no evidence that they are accurate."

Without any statements whatsoever, feats are simply head canon interpretation of what's happening/we are seeing

This seems largely reasonable.

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The creator himself views the vivrecard as important information that can't be fit into the story, It's something we turn to and are supposed to turn to when we don't have all the info is Oda's intention and purpose of it

That's why I said there will probably be revisions on vivrecards as it's shown to be different in the manga currently on the height of Jarul and Brogy

Interesting.

Thank you very much for the answer!

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

"Author statements will only be accepted when they clarify what has been shown or implied in the series itself, and will be rejected when they contradict what has been shown to the audience. Statements that technically do not contradict anything shown in the series will still be rejected if there is no evidence that they are accurate."

yee I've read this before and I think I personally don't 100% agree with it... When they; contradict something that's shown is still dependent on each individual audience interpretation, that's basically to me giving head canon interpretation of feats above the literal statement from the creator, which I personally don't think is a good thing

In my opinion It should maybe instead be more time/up to date based, tho I guess it depends on the verses as well so , either way it should be more case by case

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Ulti>>>Who's who

Ulti getting captured by Who's Who in the first place and needing to be saved along with P1 says otherwise lol

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

The chapter was alright. And hopefully Robin learns Buso from Saul by the end of this arc since she couldn't learn it from the Revs for some strange reason.

 

[Ped2018]

Ulti getting captured by Who's Who in the first place and needing to be saved along with P1 says otherwise lol

Both WW and Ulti didn't have any injuries so I doubt they fought

Also, Ulti was fighting against base Yamato while WW got one shoted by base Yamato with no haki

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Both WW and Ulti didn't have any injuries so I doubt they fought

Then how were Ulti and P1 captured? Also, Oda's been pretty inconsistent when it comes to drawing injuries in the past, so that's not automatic proof that there wasn't any fighting between them.

Also, Ulti was fighting against base Yamato while WW got one shoted by base Yamato with no haki

Base Yamato with no haki one-shotted Base Who's Who with no haki. His sword is also still sheathed, suggesting Yamato caught him off-guard similarly to how she did Ulti during her fight with Luffy.

Base Ulti tried to fight Base Yamato and was casually taken of care twice without Yamato using any haki lol. Yamato didn't even use haki to one shot her in her Zoan Form.

 

[Kachon123]

Also, Ulti was fighting against base Yamato while WW got one shoted by base Yamato with no haki

No haki? I'm willing to bet a LOT that it was just an art error. It makes no sense for Thunder Bagua of all of the techniques in her arsenal to not have haki on it.

 

[SlendVeny]

No haki? I'm willing to bet a LOT that it was just an art error. It makes no sense for Thunder Bagua of all of the techniques in her arsenal to not have haki on it.

Bro did not want to leave a red puddle behind

 

[Antvasima]

Just a note that the spoilers for chapter 1143 are out.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Just a note that the spoilers for chapter 1143 are out.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/one-piece-chapter-1143-spoilers.177921/