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Gouketsu loses to Flashy Flash TBH.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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wait wat, is this actually what the scaling chain looks like right now? I actually haven't been paying attention much
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No, it is not what the scaling chain looks like right now.
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No he's freaking not i remember him saying that "There's still more dangerous monster out there lying around that even Class S heroes can't handle" which literary mean he acknowledged those ppl as a strong and dangerous dudes.
That guy is just probaby a lackey compared to PS and EC and probably even HE in monster association.
So scaling them below him is just weird.
Didn't ONE once stated that even if tatsu is in here perfect condition she'd still hard dealing with him?
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Oh
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ONE stated that about Golden Sperm in the webcomic. Nothing like that has been stated about Platinum Sperm.
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Asura, am I crazy or didn't you just say you were going to make a blog comparing the orb that Atomic cut to the original 6-C orb? Maybe I'm imagining things but I was planning to do just that.
Golden Sperm having a rating close to Black Sperm and Atomic being vaguely "far higher" with the sunblade doesn't sit right with me when we saw Atomic instantly dissect an orb Murata likely meant to be comparable to the 6-C one, and then proceed to struggle to cut GS. With a little evidence and a little comparison it should be enough for a new rating
Golden Sperm having a rating close to Black Sperm and Atomic being vaguely "far higher" with the sunblade doesn't sit right with me when we saw Atomic instantly dissect an orb Murata likely meant to be comparable to the 6-C one, and then proceed to struggle to cut GS. With a little evidence and a little comparison it should be enough for a new rating
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This means that we consider that Goukentsu is "likely" stronger than both
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I decided to discontinue it. It's really hard to calculate the size of the 2nd orb because the positioning is inconsistent.
Instead, I counted all the slashes from these panels. There's about 36.
Edit: I'll give the combined pixel lengths soon.
Edit 2: 14449.3 or 11749.81 pixels (it's one or the other, but not anything different). The main orb is 168 pixels.
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No, we don’t. Post-Molt Elder Centipede is possibly stronger than Gouketsu, but there is not enough evidence to give him a solid rating.
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Exactly, just "possibly", it's not even a "likely". That's what I'm saying
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That doesn’t imply Gouketsu is stronger though, we’re literally saying that he’s possibly weaker.
The likely and possibly ratings do not automatically denote inferiority.
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"Garou is particularly weak to sharp objects."
Where does this weakness even comes from?
Where does this weakness even comes from?
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True
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I always imagine "possible" as a 25% chance and "likely" as 75%.
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I think it came from a thread where we argued about Garou being weak to sharp objects, but that's not a specific weakness we were planning to add and it applies to all forms of Garou.
I'll just remove it.
Edit: Actually, it's even older.
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I feel like it’s less of a Garou thing and more of a piercing damage in fiction™ thing
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I guess he can use the blade to block attacks on that level.
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
Like flashy flash blocking an attack that is comparable to his AP using his sword.
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Atomic's best defense is his blade- but if he gets speedblitzed or hit from an angle where he can't have his blade at that point in time, he has to tank the attack with his own body. Since the blade isn't a passive defense, it doesn't count as proper durability
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I'd say it's different from Homeless because Homeless can in theory form a cocoon of orbs around himself while still attacking, Atomic's blade can only be in one place at once if he's going up against fast enough enemies
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I support simply scaling his AP with the sun blade to Homeless's orb. Because even if the orb was a little smaller, or the sizes of both vary, Atomic was able to cut up an orb no problem- and given the size of his slashes he could likely cut his way through a much larger orb with similar effort.
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That isn't theory, he's done it
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But sum ppl will still disagree with this like you said it's clear as day that murata meant to say that they're comparable
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Does that mean anything?
Nevertheless the intention is clear as day it's so weird to say HE is still superior even after seeing that
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Yes. It means he took dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower an attack.
'The intention is clear' here is just another way of saying 'my opinion is better than your opinion.'
After seeing him take dozens upon dozens of slashes to overpower 1 attack? Yeah, he was forced on the defensive, but HE is also a human and seemingly much slower than AS here.
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Isn't the Goketsu's statement about other monsters is an anime only thing? The manga only has him mention one superior, Orochi, to my knowledge.
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That's not how it looks like it looks like he's just trying to completely nullify it by slashing every part of shit of it
I mean how can he even nullify it with just one slash ? he ain't asta.
Is it not? The intention i mean?
Like i said above ^
But yaah yeah you win. Weird as hell tbh saying HE is still superior even after that
I mean yeah it's not it fairly obvious that ONE or murata meant to say he's comparable or maybe even higher considering he slashes it causally... But yeah like i said you win YOU made a point.
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It exploded. He didn't nullify it completely. And even if he did, why would he fully scale for nullifying it with dozens upon dozens of blows?
I mean just saying 'oh it's their intention' is a meaningless statement without something like actual confirmation from the author. You're not pulling from the author, your pulling from your own interpretation of events in the manga.
Who even said he did it casually? This is what I mean here, you're just making stuff up.I mean yeah it's not it fairly obvious that ONE or murata meant to say he's comparable or maybe even higher considering he slashes it causally... But yeah like i said you win YOU made a point.
The fact is, he had to hit it dozens upon dozens of times to actually destroy it.
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Isn't? This is not the same to those unrealistic anime where they can nullify a big magical orb with just a one swing
Which again he ain't no asta.
For the 2nd time you're contradicting the author intention.
Atomic with sun blade > Full powered HE
