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Kratos vs Yhwach 2
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Except Everything12 clearly says that the answers in that QnA thread may not apply to Yhwach because of how his precog works, I don't need to make a thread to say that GilverTheProtoAngelo's QnA thread doesn't apply to Yhwach.
I'm fine with making a precog QnA thread asking how we treat one as superior to the other though.
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That's still not a really concrete answer so you may want to ask if that still applies to Yhwach yourself lol.
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Kratos gets his resistance from it being assumed that Zeus was unable to see Kratos returning to the past.
Which can easily just be attributed as a weakness to Zeus's extremely vague precog.
To make it simple;
Zeus's precog comes from knowing that Kratos would die and where he'd return to from the Underworld, however, it's never actually explained how Zeus knew this or the mechanics of it.
Kratos travels to the past to stop Zeus from killing his past self, Zeus doesn't know about this until it happens, so it's assumed Kratos must be resistant to precog even though it can easily just be chalked up as a weakness to Zeus's vague "precog", in that Kratos altered the past when he did this so Zeus with his limited precog didn't see it.
Now for a question of my own, where does Kratos's supposed three layers of precog resistance come from? There's only a single layer of precog resistance listed on his profile, which is Zeus's, no mention of him then subsequently being affected and then resistant to two more layers.
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Awww you broke my heart.
Because to even predict any event so accurately so long in advance, the predictor has consider and calculate tons of factors which go into causing the chain events leading upto the crescendo.
You need some busted brain processing power, proportional to how minute event is and how far into future it is.
Which happens in case of Zeus because you so unwittingly downplayed Zeus that yiu didn't realise the consequences.
The fact that you , I would claim...completely misinterpreted his line.
It was already concluded in prior comments by him and Antoniofer to not be potency but range.
His doubt was in context of range, because in Yhawach's case a 2A cosmology doesn't exist.
So we giving 2A range is suspect.
His very last comment proves that it is indeed a range contextual question....when he himself gave Yhawach's type of precog Universal range.
If you still have hopes of pulling a potency for Yhawach why don't you go ask it on thread.
Better clear that up before we continue....cuz we ain't budging each other.
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The big question. How does Kratos permanently put Yhwach down?
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He doesn't, even putting aside any precog or resistance, Kratos doesn't actually have a wincon.
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He doesn't lol.
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Bruh.....He already resists Zeus's precog after Start of GoW2, when he loses his power and dies.
Fates manipulated his death at hand of Zeus.
But by the end pf game/novel....even Fates cannot affect his fate threads....progressively throughout the story Kratos gains more resistance untill he completely resists Fate manip and precog. Because even Fates have precog, causality etc superior to Zeus.
Reactive Evolution in short.....if we characterise this phenomenon.
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Something I have been screaming since start of the thread.
Athena <<< Zeus <<< Fates.
I even provided scans lf those.
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Which isn't how resistance layers work
Kratos would need to;
Be affected by Athena's precog then become resistant > then be affected by Zeus's precog and become resistant > and then finally be affected by the Sisters of Fate precog and then become resistant
That would be three layers
All Kratos gets is a single layer of resistance because nobody ever overcame it.
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Destroying his soul.
Just like he did with Fates, Cronos, Persephone and Zeus himself....hell entire GoW3 he is doing this.
Considering even Ares had his soul intact after death in GoW1....but these guys don't is enough proof of that.
Especially after Hades is dead.....no one's soul is going to Underworld.
Hell, he ******* kills Cronos in Tartarus the place where Underworld exists.
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How rad. Because he already does.
In GoW1 he resists Athena's Precog...thats why she has to rely on Oracle to see what Ares and Kratos do in rest of story.
Something Zeus does on his own.
Fates and Zeus he has been resisting throughtout mid of GoW2.
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How does 2018 Kratos destroy someone’s soul?
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Not on his profile
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No, as soon as Kratos gained PoH he was resistant to both Zeus and Sister of Fate precog, and even that as an assumption because it's not explicitly shown or even implied, Zeus was just shocked at Kratos's arrival.
That's not multiple layers, it's a single layer, which Yhwach already overcomes.
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Composite Bleach FRA
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Pretty much this lol.
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The fact that people think 2018 Kratos is different person compared to his Greek counterpart is telling of how people have zero knowledge on series.
Bruh.....if you provide proof on thread its acceptable enough. Provided you later CRT it.
You shouldn't speak on things you have so pathetic knowledge on.
Then explain why the **** Fates been controlling Kratos's Fate for 10 years as his God of War tenure on Olympus???
Yhawach's reasoning is ******* for bypassing resistance to precog. So you got no ground to talk.
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Here's the issue: A lot of Greek Kratos's hax comes from equipment. INCLUDING soul hax in GoW 3.
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@GilverTheProtoAngelo Ive played every single GoW. Just answer the question as to how 2018 Kratos destroys souls?
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It doesn't matter what people think, it matters what is accepted on his profile.
And no, for VS threads we use stuff on profiles.
So Kratos isn't resistance to Sisters of Fate precog? Just their fate manipulation, hence why no statement about him resisting their precog is on his profile.
Even worse for your argument, all you have now is Zeus, so not only is it a single layer, it's a pathetically weak layer at that.
How is Yhwach's reasoning "*******"? He absorbs a character who was immune to The Almighty's precog, and we already know that Yhwach gains facets of a characters being when he absorbs them, such as when he gained SK's inability to die by absorbing him.
Hell, Yhwach's reasoning is actually based on evidence, Kratos's is purely conjecture, weak conjecture at that.
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Yeah.. lets ignore all the magical techniques and feat performed in GoW3.
Only a single soul manip comes from a weapon. He has been doing that with just magic since Ascension.
Bruh.
Same as GoW3 Kratos as I explained previously.
The same profile which says he scales from his younger self.
The fact that you are supposed to look at Greek Profiles just get citations for all his abilities and resistances, Which are just printed there without scans.
Not my problem that the system is bad, but the profile does cover its own back.
Yes you can argue obvious stuff...as long as you make a CRT and justify it with scans on thread.
He does...he blatantly resists everything they have. It was decided when their profiles were updated for cosmic upgrades.
But not applied, cuz somehow they don't even have Causality Manip on profile despite being mentioned in verse page.
Their state is so bad.
Cool so does Kratos.
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Can you show me Kratos from 2018 using any magic technique from the old series? This is wank.
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Why require techniques for GoW3 feats?
He literally punched Zeus to death.
Physical attack.
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Also never said he had soul magic from Greece.
So strawman
So strawman
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You’re arguing he can use some sort of soul destroying magic in GoW 2018.
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Word "and" a conjunction.
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No you can't, and "obvious stuff" is subjective, Kratos being Tier 0 might be obvious to someone but ridiculous to others, hence why we only use stuff that's accepted on the profiles and not stuff that isn't accepted.
Make a staff thread if you want to argue with things not accepted on profiles.
Except the Sisters of Fate are blatantly able to see Kratos's fate, they just aren't able to change it, hence the resistance to Fate Manipulation, we're literally told that they can see his fate and want to cut it because they know what's going to happen.
No he doesn't
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How do you know that?
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I edited my post
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I think people are confused, or just don't know how Zeus' precog works at all.
During the start of the game, you run into a gravedigger, who as his name suggests, is digging a grave. Kratos asks why he's digging a grave during the middle of a battle, and who will occupy it. The gravedigger simply says "you, my son". Events carry on, kratos heads to pandoras temple, which takes him 3 full days and nights to climb, and unknown amount of time to traverse the desert, and then he had to clear pandoras temple. Roughly a weeks time since his encounter with the gravedigger, he then is killed by ares, goes to the underworld, and makes his way through the underworld. He reaches a point and a rope is dropped down, when you look up you see a portal with a rope coming out of it. You climb up and there is the gravedigger, who says "I only finished digging moments ago"
Hades himself in the novel even confirms the only reason kratos escaped his realm was because of a gravedigger.
Zeus predicted kratos' death an entire week before it happened, and orchestrated events entirely surrounding it to ensure kratos could fulfill his role. He knew the literal exact moment he would be there to climb the rope.
During the start of the game, you run into a gravedigger, who as his name suggests, is digging a grave. Kratos asks why he's digging a grave during the middle of a battle, and who will occupy it. The gravedigger simply says "you, my son". Events carry on, kratos heads to pandoras temple, which takes him 3 full days and nights to climb, and unknown amount of time to traverse the desert, and then he had to clear pandoras temple. Roughly a weeks time since his encounter with the gravedigger, he then is killed by ares, goes to the underworld, and makes his way through the underworld. He reaches a point and a rope is dropped down, when you look up you see a portal with a rope coming out of it. You climb up and there is the gravedigger, who says "I only finished digging moments ago"
Hades himself in the novel even confirms the only reason kratos escaped his realm was because of a gravedigger.
Zeus predicted kratos' death an entire week before it happened, and orchestrated events entirely surrounding it to ensure kratos could fulfill his role. He knew the literal exact moment he would be there to climb the rope.
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How do you know kratos take a days or even a week to obtain the box in Pandora temple?did it stated?
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There is this peculiar statement.
This statement does not make sense
Decades?
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