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Just pointing out that immortality and regeneration do not guarantee an incon.Kratos resists Sleep Manip and has AD and RE up the ass and then some.
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Just pointing out that immortality and regeneration do not guarantee an incon.Kratos resists Sleep Manip and has AD and RE up the ass and then some.
Kratos's Sleep Manip resistance don't stem from either. He's had it since his Demigod days via Morpheus fuckery, in Norse he retains that, while on top being blatantly unaffected by the Steinbjorn Armor which is made up of Slumber Stones (Which on their own can put its victims into a deep slumber for eternity, their effect is compounded when forged into armor).Just pointing out that immortality and regeneration do not guarantee an incon.
Yeah, count my vote for KratosThaaaaaaaaat and Kratos already incon'd Kevin who apparently is far more haxed than Mydei is.
There's also the fact Draupnir can give him resistance to info manip type 2Looking at the profiles, Kratos has a significant advantage in skills and LS (Immeasurable > Uni). So... what exactly stops him from choking Mydei out the moment they get close to each other?
Bruh, I don't even know the wincons of each character (Mydei specifically)Looking at the profiles, Kratos has a significant advantage in skills and LS (Immeasurable > Uni). So... what exactly stops him from choking Mydei out the moment they get close to each other?
I thought it was an NLF to give resistance to stuff like that right out of the get-go, or am I missing something?There's also the fact Draupnir can give him resistance to info manip type 2
Draupnir has resistance bestowal and absorption. By the page I linked earlier, "With Draupnir's Siphon, which can absorb an opponent’s innate energy or element, and grant its wielder enhanced resistance to said power<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Draupnir_Spear_(God_of_War)#cite_note-GoWRagnarok-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>. When said energy or element is absorbed from an enemy, it also removes their resistance to it" - wtfBruh, I don't even know the wincons of each character (Mydei specifically)
I thought it was an NLF to give resistance to stuff like that right out of the get-go, or am I missing something?
Basically from what I'm understanding by reading the page. You can make the res null and bestowal irrelevant if you resist energy absorption. Which correct me if I'm wrong, Mydei doesn't haveDraupnir has resistance bestowal and absorption. By the page I linked earlier, "With Draupnir's Siphon, which can absorb an opponent’s innate energy or element, and grant its wielder enhanced resistance to said power<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Draupnir_Spear_(God_of_War)#cite_note-GoWRagnarok-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>. When said energy or element is absorbed from an enemy, it also removes their resistance to it" - wtf
Something something verse energy equalisation.I thought it was an NLF to give resistance to stuff like that right out of the get-go, or am I missing something?
Not so fast. How many layers of resistance does Mydei pack, if he has resistance to Energy Absorption to begin with?If Mydei resists energy absorption he should be save from Draupnirs powers
HmmmmmmmSomething something verse energy equalisation.
I looked at Mydeis page and I couldn't find anything for resisting energy absorption I might have missed it but I'll wait for someone else to potentially correct meNot so fast. How many layers of resistance does Mydei pack, if he has resistance to Energy Absorption to begin with?
Hmmmmmmm
Hades.I mean Mydei literally has soul absorption
Kratos is layered up the ass on that front.I mean Mydei literally has soul absorption
Hades.
How much layers? Mydei is atleast 6x, it could be 7x after the revision though but this doesn't rlly matterKratos is layered up the ass on that front.
5 but he has RE'd more soul magic layers near instantly in battle several times before, so this isn't an issue. Mydei tries it and Kratos just does what he did against Hades.How much layers? Mydei is atleast 6x, it could be 7x after the revision though but this doesn't rlly matter
Mydei is lower in the current Honkai franchise scaling chain than Deliverance Kevin by quite a large amount (who Kratos inconned) so that’s a bad sign for Mydei already if that information aids you any betterAs for knocking him out? Mydei better be pretty high up the scaling chain, because Valhalla Kratos has a slew of foes over whom he stomps quite easily.
I think the reason most people think in "regen negation" terms for resurrection/type 4 immortality is because the entire power is literally tied to the hip of regen to begin with, which honestly I also thought was how it worked as well. If that really isn't the case though, there definitely needs to be some ironing out of type 4 immortality/resurrection since, it's kind of ridiculous to argue say...the negation of a type 4 that has only regenerated a persons body can likewise negate a type 4 that regenerates their body, mind, soul and a fundamental aspectBecause a regeneration mechanic doesn't inherently make your Type 4 something that regular immortality negation can't counter.
This thread is already kinda outdated since Kratos got a few additions in the time since the last posts. And will get another layer in another CRT.I'm probably leaning towards Kratos here though