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So, during my time on the wiki, I've noticed a lot of confusion over why Dragon Ball Super is tiered the way it is - namely, concerning the 12 universes and their status as separate space-time continua. Many people, myself included, have historically made threads questioning the legitimacy of this claim, pointing out the fact that each timeline has its own copy of all 12 universes, among other things. Invariably, such threads are flooded with people either posting sarcastic memes or pushing back with some variant of "this has been discussed to death" until a staff member comes in to close it for being repetitive, with no explanations being given for why it's such a forbidden topic. We're just expected to instantly know the reasoning for the belief that the 12 universes are spatio-temporally separate - case in point, allow me to refer to what the Discussion Rules for Dragon Ball has to say about it:
Yep. It says nothing about the cosmology. It just says "hey, you're not allowed to change how we treat the cosmology without new evidence because we've heard every argument before and we're tired of it." No blog or other repository of information is provided, we're apparently just supposed to take their word for it.
This isn't particularly helpful, either. It makes a claim (universes are alternate space-times) and justifies it with "Universe 7 already contains space-time continua within its globe and those are affected by time travel," but it doesn't explain what makes the Room of Spirit and Time an independent space-time continuum or how "Universe 6 and Universe 7 belong to different space-time continua" follows from the RoSaT being a space-time continuum. Worst of all, it provides no scans for any of this. Once again, they have a proposition, and they refuse to back it up with evidence.
So what can we do? It's simple, really: we need to make an official explanation blog/page that compiles as much evidence as possible for the 12 universes being alternate space-time continua, we can add it to the "Information Pages" section on the header (as it is a very popular verse and people should be able to easily access a page that's vital to understanding why we rate it the way we do), and then we can refer anyone who has questions or complaints about how we tier Dragon Ball Super to it. This way, we'll have an easy-to-use reference for Dragon Ball's cosmology and ratings that would, ideally, greatly reduce the number of threads trying to refute it, while also allowing room for doubt where it may exist.
It's honestly surprising that no one has bothered to address this issue before, especially with recent threads highlighting the problem to me and a handful of others. Surely, as with any other website, we should be providing citations for our claims, no?
Do not attempt to change the current Dragon Ball cosmology and power ratings without new evidence from an ongoing manga or anime series. We have heard all of the arguments many times before, and are so exhausted of constantly dealing with those topics that bringing them up recurrently leads to nowhere, with the discussion threads being oftentimes closed immediately.
Yep. It says nothing about the cosmology. It just says "hey, you're not allowed to change how we treat the cosmology without new evidence because we've heard every argument before and we're tired of it." No blog or other repository of information is provided, we're apparently just supposed to take their word for it.
We consider the universes in Dragon Ball alternate time-spaces relative to each other, hence why Zen'ō is rated as 2-C, despite the events in the Goku Black Saga showing parallel timelines encompassing the whole of the multiverse.
The reason for this is that Universe 7 by itself has already been shown to contain parallel space-time continuums within its globe, such as the Room of Spirit and Time, which is still affected by time travel; which proves that the new timelines can encompass other space-times as well, and thus the events in the Future Trunks Saga don't prove anything in the way of the universes being physically connected.
This isn't particularly helpful, either. It makes a claim (universes are alternate space-times) and justifies it with "Universe 7 already contains space-time continua within its globe and those are affected by time travel," but it doesn't explain what makes the Room of Spirit and Time an independent space-time continuum or how "Universe 6 and Universe 7 belong to different space-time continua" follows from the RoSaT being a space-time continuum. Worst of all, it provides no scans for any of this. Once again, they have a proposition, and they refuse to back it up with evidence.
So what can we do? It's simple, really: we need to make an official explanation blog/page that compiles as much evidence as possible for the 12 universes being alternate space-time continua, we can add it to the "Information Pages" section on the header (as it is a very popular verse and people should be able to easily access a page that's vital to understanding why we rate it the way we do), and then we can refer anyone who has questions or complaints about how we tier Dragon Ball Super to it. This way, we'll have an easy-to-use reference for Dragon Ball's cosmology and ratings that would, ideally, greatly reduce the number of threads trying to refute it, while also allowing room for doubt where it may exist.
It's honestly surprising that no one has bothered to address this issue before, especially with recent threads highlighting the problem to me and a handful of others. Surely, as with any other website, we should be providing citations for our claims, no?