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I think this makes sense
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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therefore every one piece character that got burned by akainu should get downgraded to 9-A
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Mass was taken from the core, we can see the disconnect line.
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What? I'm talking about normal magma lol
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is akainu's magma not normal?
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I'm not even saying it's an outlier, although I could make an argument for that if I wanted to. I'm saying it doesn't make narrative sense for him to be capable of outputting a God level attack even stronger than Boros' CSRC. Why are you misinterpreting what I'm saying?
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A disconnected line means displacement, not that mass was taken. It's actually in the opposite direction.
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How does this relate to anything? We don't use anime scaling, and the anime itself already establishes Boros as planetary
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Yeah 6-B Magma is not normal
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i call bullshit lmfao. and everyone knows anime boros is 5-B
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We see it travel through and move parts of the outer core. It isn't just raw energy.
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Boros was the strongest opponent Saitama had faced. The one and only foe, especially at the time, to come even remotely close to giving Saitama a good fight. He could surprise Saitama, impress him, debatably even slightly harm him, and make him get serious. He was a parallel to Saitama, someone who became so strong that no one could face them, and because of that, he suffered from boredom. But eventually, he came to Earth, and found someone who suffered from the same kind of boredom. Boros managed to finally reach his goal of finding an opponent who can match him, although in the end he realized he never had a chance, but unfortunately for Saitama, he was still unable to truly have a good fight, to truly use his strength to the fullest. Honestly, I doubt Saitama is even more than a thousand, maybe not even a hundred times stronger than Boros.
Even with this new feat, I'd wager that ONE and Murata view Boros as capable of beating Orochi even without Meteoric Burst.
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Why does that mean it's not just energy? All other energy spheres in the series have a physical presence.
The displacement lines don't even match up with the shape itself.
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Oh, I just realized. Going by this chapter, Saitama could have stopped CSRC by just squirting some water towards Boros. Jesus I hate this.
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I mean he even shoots him with an amped magma ball.
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Even now, we still have fundamentally different interpretations of that fight. I saw it as proof we should stop expecting anyone to ever match Saitama because Boros didn't come close.
I would say Boros was never Saitama's equal, he was just the strongest opponent he had seen up to that point. Saitama blitzed Boros mid-sentence when he wanted to and killed him with a low effort attack "you didn't bare your fangs this whole fight", for all we know Boros is a hundredth or a millionth or some other fraction of Saitama's full power.
Why not, if he put enough force behind it? It all comes down to how much Saitama wants to humor his opponent.
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It's an energy ball. There's even smaller spheres of energy inside.
The "magma" ball is also millions of times smaller than what we see in the core.
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He absorbed it lol its going to get smaller.
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I never said he's Saitama's equal, I said the two aren't as incomparable as they're typically made out to be. Otherwise Saitama wouldn't have regarded Boros as such an impressive opponent and even close to a real fight.
Because Saitama being able to make CSRC also look like a literal joke is absurd and kind of just stupid. Not that Gaia Cannon is actually stronger than CSRC narratively, just based on calcs.
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If he absorbed it, it's probably just energy like I said. Unless you want to say converting it into energy, which isn't shown.
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Yeesh
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Yoooo Low 5-B???? wtf
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Converting magma into KE wouldn't be too farfetched either.
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Yeah Low 5-B Orochi, sometimes things just go wrong.
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At this point we're doing some serious mental gymnastics to keep Boros weaker than he actually is narratively. We need to revise his scaling.
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The way I look at it, Saitama was only ever humoring Boros. At the end of the battle Boros accused Saitama of lying about the closeness of the fight, I think that holds true for everything else Saitama said as well.
Boros was certainly the most impressive thing Saitama had seen and Saitama is very good at judging power levels when he needs to (one punching Snek and Rover non-fatally while casually demolishing Orochi), so it wasn't a lie for Saitama to call Boros "strong" unless we assume strong to mean comparable in power to Saitama. I don't think he was- he could have treated CSRC like a total joke if he wanted to.
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I was always under the interpretation that (like everyone else in the verse) Boros is less an ant to Saitama and he could’ve atomized with a flick, but he humored him with a stimulating fight due to sympathizing with his plight.
Also Boros still handily beats Orochi, no? Thousands of times faster and one shots without CSRC because Gaia Cannon doesn’t scale to Orochi’s durability
Also Boros still handily beats Orochi, no? Thousands of times faster and one shots without CSRC because Gaia Cannon doesn’t scale to Orochi’s durability
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I guess we can just agree to disagree on this. I might be doing a calc that's around the same level.
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Wait how does it not scale to his durability?
He sucked up the energy himself and funneled it through his body.
If he was way weaker than that the KE would destroy him.
He sucked up the energy himself and funneled it through his body.
If he was way weaker than that the KE would destroy him.
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Because Low 5-B durability for Orochi doesn't seem right.
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That’s… not an argument…
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And it would be an even bigger overkill
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When have we ever made some weird exception like that?
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Why would he lie about Boros being impressive when Boros can't even hear him? He said it in space and to Genos. He was lying about it being a close fight and Saitama himself having a good time, not about Boros being a genuinely powerful opponent.
Saitama says directly that he can't tell how strong most people are due to the gap between them. Like how he has no idea how strong Gouketsu was, because to Saitama, Gouketsu was fodder. Saitama generally only calls people strong when they can impressive. Another main example is with Awakened Garou. After Garou attacks him, Saitama specifically says that he can tell Garou is strong, immediately noting that Garou isn't like most other opponents. With Orochi, Saitama never addressed his strength even remotely. Hell, in the original version it was somewhat similar, he didn't treat Orochi like a joke, but Saitama said that he doesn't care about Orochi's title nor how strong Orochi thinks he is, and in the end he still kills him effortlessly without regarding Orochi as a strong opponent. I doubt Saitama could've used the same old Normal Punch to cancel out CSRC. I'm not saying the Serious Punch was his full power or even necessarily close to it, but Saitama did not view Boros as another random opponent, that much is undeniable.
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We interpreted it the same way. Plus if Saitama was using say, 1% of his power against Boros, then he's conceivably out of his league against God who we can expect to be hundreds or thousands of times stronger than the earth cutter or Orochi's attack just now.
If Saitama scales a little above Boros and matches God, that implies that Boros is only a tier below cosmic entities and whatnot, despite all the ludicrous feats that are being committed with tiny fractions of "God"'s power.
Worse still is if God is an outerdimensional entity with crazy cosmic powers and then Saitama beats him handily. If Boros downscales from Saitama, that makes Boros far superior to "God"... despite the fact that God will have feats leagues above CSRC.
Basically Saitama scaling to Boros puts a hard cap on how strong God can be and if God goes over that cap, then it's circular scaling.
But as for Orochi, he did absorb all that energy through his tail and release it through his mouth. If we don't scale Orochi's durability to the feat, can we at least scale him above the meteor as a bona-fide above dragon?
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Going by that logic then Low 5-B Orochi doesn't seem right at all.
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Honestly Saitama did still treat Orochi like a joke in the original.
He even didn't even contemplate that he could've been the monster king he was looking for later on in the arc.
He even didn't even contemplate that he could've been the monster king he was looking for later on in the arc.
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Diving into talk about God is reaching into high speculative territory, and again, I'm not saying Boros is Saitama's rival, I'm saying he's not just another random opponent whose strength is irrelevant to Saitama.
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Well, we can't. Having the CSRC, a clearly High 6-A atttack, higher than High 6-A is bonkers.
But on the bright side, Low 5-B scales to only one attack. And the fact final form Orochi is still weaker and slower than MB Boros physically means Boros would still slap Orochi.
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