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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Maybe now Bang, Darkshine and Atomic have all devised anti-Black Sperm techniques now and they will be the ones to force Black Sperm to go multi-cell instead of Tatsumaki. That would be amazing. I smell Darkshine vs. Multi-Cell in the works if Darkshine is disengrating Black S here like he did ENW.
 
What if he vaporized Black Sperm though, would that be grounds for upscaling? I should wait for translations, but it looks like Black Sperm tried to intercept Bang and Genos- split- the splits got surprised by Darkshine and then Black Sperm turned his attention to Darkshine. I think it would make sense of Darkshine vaped a few clones there.
 
Also, the crater HE created did not appear in this chapter despite being where ENW was located (right in front of Iaian and Atomic). I feel like it's safe to bet we'll never see it again
 
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/815353005175472148/842822959411363880/Screenshot_20210514-145725.png
I doesnt understand japonesm. But that seems to say that the monster can merge with the ocean
 
That's right. Iaian fears Evil Natural Ocean, as he should. Hasn't this come up in this chat several times? I love speculating about Evil Natural Ocean, I'm surprised if I haven't mentioned it. In theory ENW could fuse with the ocean since he absorbs moisture but there's A)no way of knowing how long that would take and B)if he could effectively control it all.
 
It may just be Iaian overhyping ENW, kinda similar to what he did with Melzalgard.
 
GyroNutz said:
It may just be Iaian overhyping ENW, kinda similar to what he did with Melzalgard.
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He might be, but ENO has been a longstanding theory in the community so it's even more of a possibility now that the manga has straight up acknowledged it. ENW has the theoretical ability to merge with the ocean, while there might be unforeseen barriers to it that we could narratively guess, there's no definitive practical reason it shouldn't be possible.

I would support a "possibly far higher" for ENW, does anyone remember which chapter the ENW redraw was in? That's where we get the statement that ENW grows by absorbing moisture.
 
This chapter was ******* hype. FOH to anyone saying that the chapter was boring. I always wondered how darkshine would fare against the cadres since he only lost a fight because garou is broken strong. finally i get to see it!
 
Something doesnt sit right with me. Atomic wasnt fast enough to intercept the water jets and save iaian but darkshine was? Since when was darkshine faster than atomic?
 
DbzDB2 said:
Something doesnt sit right with me. Atomic wasnt fast enough to intercept the water jets and save iaian but darkshine was? Since when was darkshine faster than atomic?
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It's movement speed vs. attack speed I think. Atomic does have great movement speed, but it's his attack speed that is off the chain. Darkshine on the other hand, can move fast enough to bull-rush a presumably mid-high dragon Garou with a tackle so him intercepting ENW is no surprise since Iaian can parry ENW. I've always had Darkshine's movement speed above Atomic's, although Atomic did finally get some good movement speed feats vs. Black S and G5.

We need to give Iaian some credit though, this is the second time he's reacted well to a declared dragon (third if we count the ENW redraws separately), going as far as literally parrying it.
 
i was so hyped by the insane quality art of them darkshine panels (the non-darkshine panels were kind of ass) that i didnt notice the flaws of the chapter. like seriously is darkshine just completely back to his old self that quickly after losing a fight for the first time in years? that should be much more traumatic. but ya know its a manga so talk no jutsu will always prevail i guess.
 
In the webcomic he decided to give it his all one last time before retiring. This must be his resolve to do so again.
 
DbzDB2 said:
i was so hyped by the insane quality art of them darkshine panels (the non-darkshine panels were kind of ass) that i didnt notice the flaws of the chapter. like seriously is darkshine just completely back to his old self that quickly after losing a fight for the first time in years? that should be much more traumatic. but ya know its a manga so talk no jutsu will always prevail i guess.
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He did the same thing in the webcomic with less encouragement and had the courage to confront Garou straight away, who is stronger than most of the cadres. Here Darkshine is only fighting people he can beat or at least perform well against, so his confidence is justified. Wait until he fights multi-cell sperm though
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Atomic has good speed feats on this chapter
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Cut up the rock before Genos and Tatsumaki hit it and filleted Black Sperm, those are the two speed feats I know of. But we already knew that Atomic's attack speed > Atomic's movement speed >> Black Sperm's speed, this is just more confirmation that Atomic is one of the fastest heroes
 
Note that Darkshine didn't look strained when he one-shot ENW, but he did pop a vein when he popped those BS clones: https://**********/read/imgur/RS30GBu/1/21/
 
This chapter and the last are far more positive than Fuhrer Ugly's beatdown. Wonder how long that will last...
 
Now that I think about it, Atomic Samurai was performing well against hundreds of Black Sperm clones but Bang realized he would get overwhelmed while only fighting a dozen or two, so that's upscaling Atomic's speed.
 
Where does Garou's reaction feat scale now after the downgrade? We have to revise the speed now, especially after this fight.
 
It's confirmed that Evil Natural Water's beams get stronger the more water he's assimilated with.
Those beams are gonna be like emperor novas if he gets to the ocean lol.
 
In summary,

Darkshine's Durability >>> ENW's AP (it may even be a bigger gap, it hurt Darkshine as much as a shower would hurt a human = absolutely no damage),

Darkshine's AP >> ENW's Durability (enough to casually one-shot)

Darkshine's Movement speed > Atomic's movement speed (able to defend Iaian when Atomic could not).

Darkshine's Movement speed > ENW (able to appear in front of Iaian when he was nowhere to be seen when the jets were already halfways towards Iaian).

Atomic is hard to scale to ENW, he cut through him no problem but the technique isn't going to do anything because of ENW's intangibility + nature). Iaian might downscale, since he managed to deflect ENW's blasts? It destroyed his sword in a couple strikes but he still deflected, hard to say. Iaian is at least a mid-demon imo now, the redraws and this have cemented it.

Bang's AP >> Black Sperm's durability (enough to essentially vaporize? Unclear)

Darkshine's AP >> Black Sperm's durability (enough to essentially vaporize? Again, unclear)

Genos's durability =~ Black Sperm's AP (looked like he was in pain and grunted when hit by Black Sperm, sent flying back).

Bang's Speed > Black Sperm (able to handle multiple at a time but stated he would get overwhelmed while being chased by like 20 black sperm)

Darkshine's Movement and Attack Speed > Black Sperm (able to speed blitz Sperm, intercepting clones as they were splitting out of Tatsumaki's bind very quickly).

Atomic's attack speed >>> Black Sperm (we already knew this, but it just goes to show that Atomic can speed blitz dozens or even hundreds of cells, not only in attack speed but also even with movement).
 
Ourosboros said:
At least High 6-A, potentially far higher, since ENW was the size of a small building and at least low 7-B, if he were several hundred billion times larger he might be 5-B or something.
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Nha, we don't know if he would be able to move proportionally, just use the GPE
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
Nha, we don't know if he would be able to move proportionally, just use the GPE
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That's what I mean by that, he can't be weaker than High 6-A but he could potentially be stronger. He's going to be High 6-A if he can move at all, but if he gains power proportionally he could be far higher.

Actually, Iaian straight up said that he gains power proportionally so I would bet on a relative increase in AP.
 
I have a feeling that ENW will merge with a huge water body and come back with much stronger water jets that will pierce through even darkshine
 
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