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Question, affecting time on a universal scale wasn't high universal instead of universal+? i remember you needing to affect space or the entirety of the timeline to be be universal+
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About GER's range
- Thread starter Zencha9
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High 3-A being 4D was abandoned eons ago. Any time hax is assumed being Low 2-C in Range now.
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what?? affecting Just a temporal dimensions isn't low 2-C, Low 2-C should be affecting space-time
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Still affects time through the timeline sooo
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I know, i just pointed out that affecting just time axis isn't Low 2-C, physically speaking, just 1 temporal dimensions (without spatial) is comparable to 1 spatial dimension
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I feel like this is wrong but I'll ask Ultima about it.
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Don't worry, time haxes aren't Low 2-C automatically.
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Sure but, range-wise I remember being told (and arguing) that Low 2-C requires affecting an entire timeline, and that affecting a portion of it (such as erasing a few seconds of time) is only High 3-A. I'm 99% sure this is still true since I've argued that in front of Ultima a ton without being corrected, but I'll double check just to be sure.
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I remember it, but i heard that wasn't applied anymore
also i wonder why it should be High 3-A, like it was similiar to if you affect 10 seconds of a timeline that is maded of years it's High 3-A but if you affect a the entire timeline that is maded of 5 seconds then it's Low 2-C, I really fail to find the logic behind it, because im pretty sure we don't use Fraimwork as Low 2-C proof
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Requiring characters to affect the entirety of space/time feels like the best we can do in this situation. Since the alternatives are:
- Only treat timelines that explicitly have infinite space and time as Low 2-C.
- Let any amount of non-zero effect on 4 axes be Low 2-C. Meaning that if you erase a person for 10 seconds that's considered equivalent to erasing an entire timeline.
- #2 except they're not considered equivalent, meaning that characters will be stronger/weaker based on how much time debaters can demonstrate has passed in their timeline. "My character's timeline has lasted for 10 billion years and yours has only lasted for 3 billion, mine AP stomps."
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we were so close
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1 Timeline should be 3th Spatial Dimensions and 1 Temporal Dimensions, that is basically uncotnable infinite higher than 3D Infinite, according to physic.
2 Low 2-C need universe sized for qualify
3 Actually i remember in Big Bang CRT that we treat every timelines have infinite time so
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Till Ovens came, no offense.
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I meant, Ger still scales to Uni+ for MiH and Low Multi because of death loop
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wait how does he scale to uni+ because mih?
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He upscales to it
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range was one of most important factors for stands, it's even in mesuring road, the same mesuring road that ger is above
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Welp, after talking to Ultima he said that small-scale 4-D is Low 2-C range but High 3-A AP, and that no-one's dealt with this discrepancy yet.
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I wonder how
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So GER having Low 2-C range is good as I said. Nice to know.
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how? mih's page literally states he's the only being who can effect the universe that way(and god but god is a odd concept in jojo)
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ger ability is above stands and their mesuring rod.
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Big ******* outlier.
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how
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he can't really be above mih considering...MIH is the only being aside from a omnipotent being who can effect the universe the way he does.(and or move as fast)
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dosen't matter, it's stated 2 times that he above all other stands
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Uhm... what? GER is literally stated to be above any canon stand from Araki himself, also you're implying that from that statement only God is above MiH while nothing hints to that.
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How is God the only one that can keep up with MIH when there isn't a God in the first place?
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uh no. i didnt say only god is above Mih. im saying if a omnipotent being is only stated to be comparable or above MIH's control why does ger scaling make sense here?
2.eh? i thought there was some type of omnipotent god in the jojoverse considering part 7 is a thing...is there something that says that there isnt?
2.eh? i thought there was some type of omnipotent god in the jojoverse considering part 7 is a thing...is there something that says that there isnt?
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God is the one who maded the arrrow in canon, and probably it's in heaven
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Bruh
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1-Why would MIH be stronger than GER if GER is stated to be above any Stand lol?
2-Yes, there is God
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also shouldn't rtz scale to peak range in jojo that is multi+?
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Ger becomes tier 0 lol
