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None of this would be an issue if Horikoshi just gave these darn characters some more tier 7 feats and scaling.
Pray for next arc boys.
Pray for next arc boys.
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My Hero Academia General Discussion Thread #18
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Not trying to start anything, but if the movies weren't a thing Kamino All Might would be 7-C. And Endeavor being 8-A+ or baseline Low 7-C wouldn't be that absurd would it?
Shigaraki is 8-A then, since no one is explaining why he's Low 7-B? Because the statements are invalid.
Shigaraki is 8-A then, since no one is explaining why he's Low 7-B? Because the statements are invalid.
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True, Shigaraki himself hasn't done anything remotely close to All For One at Kamino, and it's a little disappointing because the fight seems to be over.
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I’m imagining it’s gonna be worse when it comes to more combat focused arcs from now on I mean the current scaling is already a contentious mess as is
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So Shigaraki is 8-A with Low 7-B durability, since he's showcased no Tier 7 feats, and the statements from characters that he's All Might level are contradicted by the doctor who says he's not as strong as All Might.
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True, but the movies also give way better scaling for mid tiers so eh. It’s more Horikoshi not willing to show more AM vs AFO level brawls than anything.
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Very true I think without them we wouldn’t know about the scaling of many characters without them I do hope that in future we get a fight where we actually see some feats surpassing those of Kamino all might and Wounded all might
Wouldn’t shigaraki have to at least be 8-A+ For being able to casually compete against multiple 8-A characters like 45% Endeavor and Ryukyu
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Getting off of Shigaraki for a bit, are we still putting 30% at 8-B+? Even if we absolutely low ball it to be a 2x increase from 20% (which it isn’t, given it’s close to the difference between 8 and 20) it would be 96 tons.
Shouldn’t we just give it baseline 8-A (which would make it consistent with Ryukyu’s baseline) and then have 45% be Higher.
Shouldn’t we just give it baseline 8-A (which would make it consistent with Ryukyu’s baseline) and then have 45% be Higher.
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I’d agree with that. Deku’s shown he can handle hits better than her at what seems to be 30% based on taking hits from Shigaraki and handling his shockwave better than her
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I agree as that’s so close to Baseline 8-A it may as well be then it be Higher with 45% although I wonder if 45% would constitute Baseline 8-A+ due to One for All’s big jumps from percentage to percentage
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Although I don’t feel like the shock wave matters as much since usually in MHA Direct hits are massively superior to shockwaves
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True but it took Ryukyu out of the fight and Deku shrugged it off for the most part
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I’d play it safe and just say higher. The gap between 30-45 is bigger than ANY other power spike Deku has had, but we can’t get carried away.
True, and Ryukyu got KO’d by being near it while 45% tanked it. 45% is being slept on.
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45% underrated hope Deku at 45% gets some more direct calculable feats in future though
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The difference between 5% and 8% is higher than the difference between 20% and 30%.
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That’s just an unfortunate affect of not having concrete multipliers. Don’t know what to do about that.
This also just reminded me that 20% should be City Block+ because that 48 ton feat was done before Midoriya got amped by Katsuma.
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Oh yeah the Katuma amp that improved their physical stats dramatically
I mean they went from Nine Borderline stomping them to Nine even commending their Catapult Smash combo attack
And they overall did better against nine than they did before the amp
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I don't believe he was amped, I'm pretty sure that's not the proper message being sent. Hard to explain but physical condition doesn't refer to strength, just that his body is better off. More like he's more healthy and may have better stamina, not that he punches harder.
But I need to see the official translation of that scene, since I don't trust the dub.
But I need to see the official translation of that scene, since I don't trust the dub.
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No, Nine was getting weaker.
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Pardon me? Where did that come from?
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Huh
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Deku survived the same dragon attack that injured Bakugo, in his base form.
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I keep forgetting Deku’s Base is a smurf for durability
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But... Bakugo is High 8-C+. Also OFA's lightning is very inconsistent, he was probably still at 8%, especially since right before that he was shooting his air bullets.
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Also Jirou should scale to Ojiro in durability, since they both took the same amount of damage from the same attack from Nine. Shoji as well.
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Should any students scale to that Aoyama/Mina calc? Other than I think Tokoyami.
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You can see him shooting his air bullets as the dragon splits, he can't do that unless he's using Full Cowl. It's just an inconsistency in the animation.
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I thought Nine recovered after those few hours of rest
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He also took an attack from Nine in base right after he tried to take OFA, and he blatantly didn’t have FC up since he was stunned. He also took those dragons slamming him into the mountain side right before he gave OFA to Bakugo, where he again couldn’t have FC up since he was basically dying.
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The video is cut and it wouldn't be the first time that Deku loses Full Cowl after taking a strong hit.
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He was holding his chest in pain and his barrier broke from an attack that was weaker than 20%.
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I have the actual movie, I'm not paying attention to your video, I know what scene your talking about and he was using Full Cowl the frame before he got hit.
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The barrier broke because Nine was getting weaker.
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Yes, that's what I'm saying. What are you going on about? He was saying they got stronger, I'm saying Nine got weaker.
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When does Deku get Immense Pain Tolerance, btw
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Shouldn’t he have that already? He’s broken his broken finger repeatedly and later on breaks his arms continuously with no hinderance to his performance.
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Fair enough
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