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Katekyo Hitman Reborn Stats Revisions and/or Deletion

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Reppuzan

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I can't help but notice that the vast majority of KHR profiles are based on scaling, but the characters they're scaled to have little to no reasoning for their stats.

The best I've been able to find is Hibari's propagation ability, but even then that isn't calced, given a link, or described at all. The verse's Massively Hypersonic speed come from uncalced feats of dodging lightning.

Either we pull a massive stat revision on the verse, set everything to unknown, or delete the verse since it's just lazy at this point.
 
Besides tsuna, not sure if any of the others are accurate, might be some calcs on naruto forums for the rest but idk.
 
Wait tsuna doesn't have any justification either, there are a bunch of calcs for him on narutoforums though.
 
I was gonna work on those....But the ones who were to help me never came back....That was a year ago....
 
I only really read the last arc of the series, so my knowledge is limited and I'm studying abroad soon so I don't know if I'll have enough time to read through the manga myself to do the revisions.
 
I think tsuna in the future arc's x burner was calc to be MCB level, and his xxburner in the shimon arc i think was City level, besides from those to stats i don't know about the rest.
 
Something about the guy whose name i am forgetting now who uses portals, attack not being LS or only LS when he is the portal or something, i don't remember, there was some discussion about that on the obd.
 
@Celestial

I believe it was determined that they didn't exactly show the properties of actual black holes (i.e. Enma turned his own body into one and their supposed mass didn't match up with feats).
 
Also, Tsuna was able to disperse those Black Holes with his flames, which also shows that it isn't really like a true black hole.
 
In the Future ArcTsuna have MCB level for this, i think

Tsuna destroying 3 sections of the Merone base who is harder than steel

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v23/c208/18.html

Genkishi withstood the x-burner

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v24/c217/16.html
 
I think that feat may have been calc at MCB level, someone who is obd savy and knows how to search for old calcs should go look for katekyo hitman reborn calcs, i remember there been a few.
 
@Kamika

1) The problem is that this is one singular attack. What about his regular attacks?

2) Getting one-shot by the X-Burner doesn't really count as tanking it. It would put him on the lower bound at best and we can't scale Tsuna to him since Tsuna is the one performing the attack.
 
Celestial Pegasus said:
Something about the guy whose name i am forgetting now who uses portals, attack not being LS or only LS when he is the portal or something, i don't remember, there was some discussion about that on the obd.
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It was explicitly stated in the manga that the gravity of the portals accelerated Bermuda until the speed of light
 
@Muuuuh

It's an outlier compared to everything else in the series.
 
@Reppuzan

In Attacking mode his fists have the power equal to X-Burner

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v29/c275/11.html

Before, the X-Burner was measured in the manga, the Tsuna Fists in Choise Arc have more power than Future Arc Xburner

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v24/c217/9.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v26/c245/7.html

http://reborn.wikia.com/wiki/Fiamma_Volt
 
But that's only in one form. I'm asking about his base Hyper Dying Will form attacks, since Cambio Forma is obviously a special move.
 
Reppuzan said:
@Muuuuh

It's an outlier compared to everything else in the series.
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What we can judge the last feat in manga(after a massive upgrade of Tsuna) like a outlier.

Its like said that Naruto Moon feat is a outlier, Or Kongou Banchou Giant form is a outlier.

Didnt make sense
 
@Muuuuh

Name one feat in Reborn that remotely approaches the speed of light, since all of their Massively Hypersonic ratings are uncalced and thus unproven.
 
Agree with muuh it isn't cause it's an outlier as pretty sure tsuna got an upgrade before this happened, it's with the feat itself that's the issue, which i don't remember why the obd rejected it, overall we should focus on more pressing issues like compiling calcs for the characters ap, besides tsuna pretty much everyone else will have to be deleted i think, maybe tsuna as well unless we can find those calcs for him.
 
@Reppu

Name other character in Kongou Banchou that was near than multi continental level

Or in Naruto in Moon level(nothing scaling)

Like in KHR just have 2 characters that can make this

Dindt make diff if the character have a final upgrade to the manga
 
@Celestial

Perhaps, but it's still a little absurd compared to the series' other feats.

@Muuuuh

I've never read Kongou Bancho, so I can't comment on this.

Naruto made a moon using the power of the Sage of Six Paths which was used to seal Kaguya and later blocked an attack that topped out at Multi-Continent level without his full power. It's quite consistent.
 
@Reppuzan I think what he is saying is your reasoning is flawed cause your saying compared to everything else it's an outlier, when tsuna just previously got an upgrade, so your basically saying that if a character was supersonic then got a new form or transformation and performed a mhs feat it's an outlier compared to everything else they did before, which isn't correct, we would have to downgrade a lot of characters on this logic.

Either way can we get off this speed issue, it's irrelevant if we can't find calcs for tsuna's ap, in which case we would have to delete the page.
 
@Reppuzan

Me too, these are feat without Cambio Forma

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v24/c217/9.html

http://www.*********.co/manga/katekyo_hitman_reborn/v26/c245/7.html

Attack Cambio forma of Tsuna appears in chapter 275
 
Divide the moon in a half was calced like Country level. Naruto just show a moon feat in that time and the other character are scalling by this.

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I remember in the past he was FTL, but we downgraded him after a huge discussion on it being not like a real black hole and it being an outlier. I think they were going for tier 4 as well.
 
@Kamika

A ton of things

1) Their suction isn't nearly as strong as a Black Hole their size should have.

2) Despite having the "gravity of a star", they don't crush very much at all.

3) Tsuna is able to dispel them with Dying Will Flames.
 
@Reppuzan

Only should change the stats of Tsuna last arc, Vongola Primo, Kawahira, Reborn and Bermuda true?

I thought you wanted to delete all the characters of KHR
 
@Kanika

If we can't get some good justifications, it's better to just delete everything rather than have inaccurate pages.
 
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