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Slight Pokegods revision

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Well, the gods minus Arceus (only because I'm pretty sure he has the ability anyway)

Anyway, I believe that Palkia and Dialga should have Matter Manipulation, and the Lake Trio should have Soul Manipulation, due to the story of the Original one.

In the beginning, there was only
a churning turmoil of chaos. At the heart of chaos, where all things became one, appeared an Egg. Having tumbled from the vortex, the Egg gave rise to the Original One. From itself, two beings the Original One did make. Time started to spin. Space began to expand. From itself again, three living things the Original One did make. The two beings wished, and from them, matter came to be. The three living things wished, and from them, spirit came to be. The world created, the Original One took to unyielding sleep...
Not sure if the former would apply to Giratina, assuming it would even matter as Giratina might already have it on his profile. Also, if Arceus doesn't have one of these, it would apply to him too.

Also, the lake trio should be infinite in speed regardless of if they're near each other. A power increase I understand, but not speed.
 
I think that this seems reasonable.

However, I do not understand the following:

Also, the lake trio should be infinite regardless of if they're near each other. A power increase I understand, but not speed.

Please explain further.
 
@Ant They can tag the creation trio. Tho this can be either PIS or outlier.
 
Okay.
 
Well considering that that can counteract the Creation trio they would have to be able to keep up and react to them in case they fight back. So infinite sounds more logical as being together shouldn't raise speed in this situation.
 
Well they can all have infinite speed and still be slower because it also depends on acceleration.

Its not PIS since 3 of them equal one sealed member of the creation trio.
 
Realized that Arceus has none of these abilities. This applies to him too.
 
I agree with this and also I believe the Lake trio (and possibly Creation Trio and Arceus) should get Wish Granting as a hax

The Lake trio should get it based off of the statement Cal posted- "The two beings wished, and from them, matter came to be. The three living things wished, and from them, spirit came to be."

The Creation trio should get it based off of that too and also based off of the Darkrai movie when the pokemon's dreams became reality due to Palkia's space warping.

And Arceus should have it because......god. Lol
 
I agree with the Matter and Soul Manipulation for Arceus, as well as Infinite Speed for the Lake Trio, honestly I assumed they had it anyway since we scaled them to the Creation Trio.

@Anime. That sounds like reality warping to me, just really powerful warping. Could be Probability Manipulation as well, though.
 
So, it seems like a handful of DMs are okay with this along with a Bureaucrat. Is it okay for me to change it.
 
Darkanine said:
@Anime. That sounds like reality warping to me, just really powerful warping. Could be Probability Manipulation as well, though.
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They should have Probability Manipulation too iirc. Considering there's moves like Lucky Chant, Sky Attack, etc. that are Probability Manipulation and that they created and can use them.....so..
 
We discussed those moves with Mighty and he turned them down as probability Manipulation.
 
I agree with the OP.

The Creation Trio also should have concept manipulation and type 8 immortality in their Abstract/2-B forms. Arceus also gets type 8 immortality.
 
Where would they get type 8 from? The Plates do nothing for them in that regard. If anything they and the Lake Guardians should have type 1 listed.
 
I think he's saying that the plates are pieces of his life source, though I doubt that means their existence keeps him alive. Although would Arceus have immortality reliant on the original spirit?
 
So, um... anyone mind unlocking the pages so I can do the intended edit? Azzy? Ant? Another admin who's monitoring this?

For my personal remembrance, the changes were:

Palkia: Matter Manipulation

Dialga: Matter Manipulation

Giratina: ???

Uxie: Soul Manipulation

Mesprit: Soul Manipulation

Azelf: Soul Manipulation

Arceus: Matter and Soul Manipulation
 
@Breloom. I feel like it would be best to the stuff that's guaranteed right now.
 
Which pages do you need unlocked?
 
I'll get them if it's not unlocked already.

Edit: Nvrmind, i'll lock them then after this is done instead.
 
Finished editing the lake trio, so they can be locked. Dialga and Palkia and Arceus are the ones that are left.
 
Thanks.
 
I didn't think those were the Lake Trio. And yeah, i guess Mighty forgot to lock them back a while ago, but i have locked them now.
 
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