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Wiki Audit Group: Explanation and Recruitment

Mr. Bambu

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Summary

As mentioned in this thread, we have accepted the concept of a wiki audit group. The intent of this group is to weed through large amounts of verses efficiently, see if information is backed up by either people who can give explanations, or scans, or some other form of conclusive evidence.

This thread aims to explain how we'll go about doing this, who will be in the group of Auditors, and so on.

How the Audit Will Work
First the collective Auditors will be selected and put into groups of 2s if possible. Each group of Auditors will be assigned to a verse which will then be analyzed by the group over no particular timeframe- an audit could be completed in hours or months.

This group's entire goal is to classify the verse in question in one of several ways by the end of the Audit.

- Green = Maintains standards, can offer explanations where needed, fits most if not all criteria.

- Yellow = Misses several criteria and needs some amount of work to fill out these issues, though it can be generally relied upon to be correct in its information, and has sources we can easily access.

- Orange = Lacks most points needed to remain though maintains active member(s) working on it. This does not offer an immediate pass- this is a save from Red, something to allow a verse that would otherwise be classified as Red be saved from deletion.

- Red = Fails to meet most criteria to stay on the wiki, few if any sources that can be relied upon. These verses will need either immediate support from users (a sort of verse-adoption system) or eventual deletion if all else fails.

- Grey = Generally lacks any content. Verse pages with no pages actually on them will inherently be deleted.

- White = Unlisted, unevaluated, and unchecked.

Steps to effectively classify verses will be made in order to get a good idea of the verse's total situation. All supporters and knowledgeable members listed will be contacted immediately to provide information at the Audit Group's request. Furthermore, announcements of any changes in classification will be made on a separate thread when the project is officially begun; such a thread will also contain the exact lists of each category and what verses are in them.

TL;DR, the first goal of the audit group is to analyze and give an initial category to a verse. If the verse is green or yellow it can generally be moved on from with some advice to the experts. If the verse does require further work and looking into, the audit group's next goal is to lay out available information and confirm the legitimacy of said information. CRTs should be handled by supporters if available once such information has been laid out. If such a thing is impossible, either due to lack of supporters or lack of information, the verse will be formally "up for adoption", inviting any user who may be able to substantiate information to step forward. If all of this fails- if no reliable information is easily accessed and if no user can/is willing to assist, then the audit group will have no choice but to classify it as either Red or some similar rating and condemn it to deletion.

The Criteria
We mention the criteria through which verses will be audited quite often. This section aims to lay them out in simple terms so everyone can get an idea on what is expected.

- Tier 1 verses will need a readily-available cosmology explanation. Human sources are acceptable in the void of a blog and simple scans will function if the ultimate reason for the tier is incredibly basic.

- All verses are expected to substantiate any statistics with information- a calculation, an explicit statement on speed, something, must be made readily available for anyone looking at the page.

- A verse is expected to have at least one page.

- A verse will, optimally, have at least 1-2 users capable of discussing the verse with others on the wiki if needed. Such criteria is not actual cause for deletion- it is to watch out for unreliability of the verse's stats due to nobody actually upholding them.

- Verses originally written in languages aside from English will need absolutely reliable translations. This wiki's primary language is ultimately English and information must be available to fit that role. Legitimate translations include creator-approved localizations, fan translations that can be verified by site foreign language speakers (if they exist for that particular tongue), and so on.

- Preferably abilities will be expanded on with links. Obviously the more abstract the ability, the more likely investigation is to swing that way. The audit group may not bat an eye at un-explained Ice and Fire Manipulation, though unexplained Type 2 Concept Manipulation may indeed draw attention.

- Pages must maintain proper structure. This is less about information (and thus less important) and more about quality control- pages will be checked for general reliability in the fields of grammar and capability to follow standard page structure.

If you would like to suggest more criteria, we'd love to hear it and consider it for part of the evaluation process. Thank you in advance.

Membership and Recruitment
We have no selected way of actually choosing members yet. Generally, all that is needed is to display experience in the ways of page creation and forum talk, have a reasonably high number of site-wide edits, and lack any significant breakage of the rules, particularly those on the lines of getting into arguments with others or generally being unable to comply with wiki policy concerning CRTs and page edits.

Current Auditors

 
Then the user who reviews said verse should be fluent in that language
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
Not really a fan of "ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION"
I know there are A6 cases of an extremely obscure and untranslated verse, but that's basically cockblocking tons of foreign verses, even well-known verses here like Masadaverse IIRC.
Agreed. As long as the verse is properly explained by someone who can reliably translate scans, I think it should stay.
 
Saikou The Lewd King said:
Not really a fan of "ABSOLUTELY MUST HAVE AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION"
I know there are A6 cases of an extremely obscure and untranslated verse, but that's basically cockblocking tons of foreign verses, even well-known verses here like Masadaverse IIRC.
Wiki translators are essential for this. I'm sorry but if you can't get the information to the point where someone can reliably understand then we can't do much for your verse.
 
Snipping this. Like my post says. If someone can reliably translate it on the wiki, I'm fine with that. It just needs to be able to be confirmed by the members on the wiki.
 
I would help if I could but I'm afraid I'll be back to studying again for my other exams within a few months.
 
I don't do enough on this Wiki. That said, I'm not sure I'm up to being an auditor proper, but I'm more than happy to try & give info on the 'verses I support/am listed as a Knowledgeable Member for.

Sorry about kind of interrupting things.
 
One of my classes got canceled this semester, so I have a lot more free time, I can help with this.

I'm knowledgeable in a lot of verses and even in verses I'm not familiar with I still help out due to being able to read and translate simple Japanese (complex or flowery writing by certain authors takes me a couple read throughs to properly understand).
 
I don't want that homie. You're misunderstanding, one of my proudest verses is a german fantasy novel series that nobody has read on the wiki. I'm perfectly fine with wiki translators substantiating information where needed, we just need it substantiated.
 
Eh, i guess that i know alot about Transformers outside of the cosmic part, that would be Crabwhale's fort
 
Guys, we're not looking for knowledgeable members on every verse. That isn't a criteria to be an Auditor. When the verse comes to get checked up on, the auditors will contact all members listed as supporters and knowledgeable to have a discussion, be it here or on the discord tied to this project.

If you want to be an auditor, being knowledgeable on verses 'doesn't matter'. All we need are level-headed, active users capable of analyzing and understanding the concepts stated above.
 
I could help with this if more people are needed

how would we pick verses though, do we just spam the random page button and see where it takes us
 
@Paul Frank Every verse will be evaluated. First we just get a list of every page in the category "verse", place them in the White category, dole them out to the groups of auditors, and work our way through until we're done.
 
For joining? The idea is (currently, unless someone proposes some better functioning alternative) that you generally fit the description in the OP. After that point it's up to the current auditor's discretion.
 
Mr. Bambu said:
For joining? The idea is (currently, unless someone proposes some better functioning alternative) that you generally fit the description in the OP. After that point it's up to the current auditor's discretion.
Seems kind of barebones, but if it works it works I guess
 
Once the audit is finished, will the qualification be posted on the verse page if it doesn't become red or orange?

Also I and Hellbeast1 currently serve as the experts of Assassin's Creed if that helps (Though I'm pretty sure ZenkaiBattery and Cinnabar are also well-knowledged in it). But I'm currently busy with Yakuza ATM and may help with the Transformers profile revisions in the near future if Drite accepts it.
 
Yobo Blue said:
I'd say put a set site wide edit amount, like 15-20k edits to be eligible
Which is good until you realize types of edits matter. Many hugely helpful staff member have far lower edits and yet have been instrumental in certain site endeavors. Meanwhile certain types of activity lead to vast amounts of edits without ever actually contributing in a meaningful way to the site. Stuff like versus threads and anything on the F&G board fits this.

So just flat out edits means very little.
 
In that case, maybe 1000-3000 of whatever type(s) of edit(s) you think should be imperative to recruitment
 
I don't think that in any case the standards will be loose enough that people can simply say they are capable and good choices at the very least.
 
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