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Yujiro Hanma vs The Player (Minecraft)

KGiffoni

KGiffoni

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Both have their 7-C keys in here.

The player has a 1 week preparation, but nothing that gets him stronger than 7-C is allowed.

Speed is equalized.

Match happens in
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Yujiro

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Steve

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Locatio

a Minecraft Desert.
Win via incapacitation, death, etc.

Yujiro: 8

Steve: 2
 
Not gonna vote yet, but leaning to Yujiro via better experience, technique. The Player might get a few good hits if they don't get involved in h2h combat and just snip from afar.
 
I can't vote on my own threads ofc, but here are my toughts:

Yujiro is ofc way more experienced than Steve, but most martial arts might not be 101% efficient as they usually are against his cubic shapes if we count that in. Yujiro also got stamina, and some of his most notable techniques/abilities include 0.5 sec unconscious, information analysis, damage reduction, paralysis inducement, and vacuum palm is also pretty important. It seems his Low 7-C AP is 2.68 kilotons, and in his demon back form (his 7-C key) he can easily defeat enemies he was even at that point. It's said Baki's incomplete demon back could already more than double his (Baki's) power, so Yujiro's should have an even bigger multiplier.

As for Steve, afaik both his AP and durability scale to Ender Dragon's AP, who is 25 kilotons. It seems he can ignore durability with potions such as poison and damage ones, and he should be able to have enough preparation to allow him to have totems, maxed items, golden apples, etc. Invisibility is kinda useless, since to make it truly effective he would need to reduce his durability to 9-A by removing all his armor, what could end in Steve getting one-shotted. I'm not 100% sure, but i think he could be able to resist Yujiro's paralysis inducement (via fear) since Steve doesn't seem to hesitate fighting Minecraft's biggest and scariest enemies, such as endermans, witches, wither skeletons, endermans, The Wither and Ender Dragon, not even when it's his first time encountering them. But i'll leave this for you guys to debate.

Honestly i hate to say this since Yujiro is one of my favorite characters but Steve seems to have an AP advantage on top of a huge versality advantage. And his abilities aren't like anything Yujiro has ever seen in the Bakiverse even as a genius martial artist, so it's new stuff to him, so if i were to choose, i'd vote Steve.

If anything i said is wrong, please correct me.
 
Your analysis are pretty good. There is some point that i would like to point out:

Steve cubic shapes won't be a matter due to Yujiro accurate information analysis, he probably gonna find his weakness in no time.

Yujiro precognition also played a big part here, he can evacuate most of Steve attack's with ease.

You already know how skilled Yujiro is, the guy single-handedly defeating the entire U.S. Army during the Vietnam War with nothing but his bare fists. He has an extremely in-depth knowledge in many fields (even one that isn't about fighting). Steve weapons and potions might surprise him for a little bit but he will quickly learnt about it and find a solution.

Steve on the other hand, had AP advantage and a huge versality advantage, but his items are limited, once they run out then Steve is screwed. After a while, Yujiro will known that he need to kill this person many times or knock them out in one hit.

Most of Steve attack are very basic: slashing, punch, throwing. Some of the characters in Baki can catch bullets and arrows with their bare hand, Yujiro are much faster than them and likely can perform similiar feats. Steve need to be close to Yujiro to throw potions at him, bow and arrows is meanless as i have said.
 
Normally, you have to explicitly have resistance to fear manipulation to resist fear manip on this wiki, stuff like "the character is fearless" doesn't work.

However, the scan used on Yujiro's profile to justify his paralysis through fear seems to imply the dudes on the ground specifically feared his strenght. Unless there are other scans of this fear manip showing otherwise, I don't think it should apply to Steve who has much larger AP.

For the splash potion, for some reason I can't find the proper scan (just a youtube video) but he resists poison :

https://youtu.be/q4mA7_oIYbw?t=494

Lastly, Steve's movement are extremely stiff, his attack motion is always the same, as well as his throwing motion (and I think his throwing distance is fixed too). So, there is also that to take into account.
 
Should i restrict iron golems? Since they're pretty easy to do and are 7-C as well, turning this into a potential stomp?

Also, is the luck potion combat-applicable? I tought its only purpose was for fishing?
 
I also forgot to mention Steve has mid regen and, in a week, can probably obtain an Elytra, making him able to fly.
 
KGiffoni said:
I also forgot to mention Steve has mid regen and, in a week, can probably obtain an Elytra, making him able to fly.
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And neither of them could actually help him much.

His regen are not that good, especially against non-ending barrage of attack.

Same for flight, Yujiro can easily find a way to counter it.
 
KGiffoni said:
Should i restrict iron golems? Since they're pretty easy to do and are 7-C as well, turning this into a potential stomp?
Also, is the luck potion combat-applicable? I tought its only purpose was for fishing?
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Steve need to build the iron golems and Yujiro not gonna stand there and let him do that.

Luck potion isn't combat-applicable.
 
Yeah, i'm pretty sure in-game you could do it in 2 to 3 seconds. Maybe less.
 
@KGiffoni Um why desert? Steve would fight better at ocean or lake or raining or storming via mobility of trident... kinda.

@EmperorDoom25 Plus Steve can surround himself with Wither Rose while he was supported by Notch Apple or make Yujiro lure into a wither rose trap at desert ravine but that's inefficient. But Steve can make floating blocks or block tower hence it gave Steve archery tactics mainly to provide battle into endless arrow dodging w/ infinity ench. and/or Steve would've farm at the floating mini-island while he just watch Yujiro starve and dehydration to death in the desert or Steve would wait from above until Yujiro return into normal form from transformation's exhaustion.

Edit: Multiple Lava buckets would definitely work supported with fire resistence potion. Item switching with enchanted shields and rapid lava placing tactics to make CQC worse. Also we can make Steve spam TNT around him while retreating/moving/walking backwards and lit it up with flint and steel (this tactics aka for noobs at PVP server so they can spread explosion, but yeah i know it's inefficient but fun and Yujiro take some damage). Who cares CQC when you can make yourself explode. They wouldn't be able to fight each other if Yujiro won't get close at Steve's suicide bombing even if Yujiro did attack (which Yujiro knows he can endure TNT explosions) it's possible that Steve can make Yujiro hit End Crystal while placing End Crystal in front of him as a 'shield' instead (Yujiro won't see that coming lmao) and then with that multiple explosions (from TNT and End Crystal) atleast Steve would survive from explosion through totem of undying or Notch apple or Potion of the Turtle Master I or II thus this logic would definitely work through CQC bombing luring tactics.

Basically Steve was a walking anime creeper or suicide bomber with multiple case of attempt bombing against Yujiro. xD

Steve: Hit me please and your Dead.
 
Unless specified otherwise by the OP, Steve is teleported on the battlefield with the stuff he prepared in his inventory, so most of stuff you cited is impossible or too slow because he can't tampered with the battlefield beforehand : he can't set trap in advance, if he wants to use TNT he'll has to get it from his inventory and place it manually which is slow.

@EmperorDoom : Speed equalize means all his movement are scaled from his basic movements (for example his normal attack). I remember thrown potion moved through significantly slow compared to simply punching in Minecraft, moreover he can't throw multiple potions at the same time and his thowing motion is so rigid Yujiro would have little problem avoiding them.
 
Golfgan is right. Steve has 1 week to get the items he needs (even tho he already starts his preparation on his 7-C equipment), and then gets teleported to the battlefield.
 
KGiffoni said:
Golfgan is right. Steve has 1 week to get the items he needs (even tho he already starts his preparation on his 7-C equipment), and then gets teleported to the battlefield.
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You mean 1 week preparation starts with base form while Steve was allowed to get 7-C equipments. As many people called themselves "minecraft veterans" (such as me) it's obviously that doesn't make sense since 7-C rules meant Steve already have equipments he needs and if preparation was added into OP then that meant Steve 7-C equipments can prepare buildings and traps at the desert. Also nothing in OP said they "teleported" to the battlefield, and all I can imagine there's Steve prep at the desert while Yujiro was waiting and standing there at the desert doing some sort of "meditation" and nothing else.

The point's 9-A with 1 week prep. to get 7-C equipments I don't think that's possible to reach maximum potential of 7-C. It'd be lower than 7-C tiering if Steve didn't get prepare properly in a "random" generated world.
 
I'm pretty sure that Yujiro not gonna fall for that simply trick. Especially, that he is the world "greatest fighter", mastering every form of fighting styles. None of the enemy that Steve faced are even on his level.
 
That make some sense. But that trick Steve would've done by himself, it's very destructive while Steve endure it all the damage and shrug.

Yujiro maybe the "greatest fighter" however he don't have any knowledge of Ender Crystal exploding unless he figured it out of hitting it by Yujiro himself. Yujiro never fought a fighter with many arsenals which is not common or just a fiction in his world.

Also Potion of the Turtle Master I or II would've rendered the CQC damage from Yujiro's attacks useless, Steve gain defense in exchange of speed while in effect of Notch Apple that's OP defense so the point's Steve can add defense and Thorn enchantments for-

"Steve: I will let you hit me but you'll take damage from my magic": Thorns enchantment would damage Yujiro greatly (Can ignore durability with Poison, Instant Damage, and Decay splash potion and via Thorn Enchantment) that proves CQC isn't the only option to fight Steve.

Based of KGiffoni has said Steve "had AP advantage and a huge versality advantage" I concluded that damage reduction from potions would've make Yujiro's attacks worse. Potion of the Turtle Master I or II was pretty useful and way more reduction of damage from attacks by 60% with I while 80% with II hence Yujiro went down the hill so he could only damage Steve by 40%/20% that's huge.

Overall if Yujiro fought Steve CQC, then he'd face the threats of Ender Crystals and Thorn enchantments or likely Lava and splash potions. Steve can explode Ender Crystals anytime he wants while Thorn enchantments with Potion of the Turtle Master I or II was huge hindrance for Yujiro. Also I couldn't imagine how Yujiro would get close to Steve: if Steve uses lava buckets and decided to swim at the lava or just dive at the lava pool while in effect of fire resistance potion. Yujiro don't have resistance from the threat of super hot temparature.

Steve: Come at me fight me at the LAVA!

Lava pool was also very frequently generated at the Desert in Minecraft too, well that's awesome.
 
Remember that Yujiro had intimidation aura that could shake the entire building and people experiencing it are unable to move. His analysis can accuracy detect any weakness, vital point, injury, or ailment that they have down to a cellular level. It's almost like pseudo-precognition that he can can predict the entire outcome of a fight just by looking at a fighting stance

Thorn Enchantment get nuff via damage reduction and body control as he can make his body completely limp and flow like a blade of grass in a storm to reduce damage.

And Steve don't have any way to attack Yujiro while he swiming in lava. Bow and arrows are useless as metioned above. His resistance effect will wear off at some point and he will need to get out of the lave leaving him opened, after that Yujiro waste no time and go straight attack him.

Yujiro can use precognition and predict Steve movement and deflect all of his potions, as well his weapons. I pretty sure that Yujiro are smart enough to not hitting any weird objects spawned by Steve.

Quoting Golfga:

For the splash potion, for some reason I can't find the proper scan (just a youtube video) but he resists poison :

https://youtu.be/q4mA7_oIYbw?t=494

Lastly, Steve's movement are extremely stiff, his attack motion is always the same, as well as his throwing motion (and I think his throwing distance is fixed too). So, there is also that to take into account.
 
Taken from the official wiki:

Defensive Shaori is a form of bodily control that allows the user to present zero resistance to oncoming blows. Literally making his body being like a feather. It also produces hyposthenia, which allow the user to absorb all the attacker's body weight. With that, the user can't take damage from punches, kicks or slashes.

Basically, Thorn damage the enemy if Steve is hit and the technique nullify the damage that done back to him.

Still, Vacuum Palm can knock out Steve without actually hurting him.
 
I've already placed down nearly all the versality of Steve.

-Yujiro can't predict someone who uses dimensional storage. It's all predicting body language. Also Steve was look "normal guy" in Yujiro's perspective.

>deflect all of his potions

It can't be deflected and dodging was meaningless. All splash potions explodes instantenously affect the area.

>Vacuum Palm can knock out Steve without actually hurting him.

"a Palm strike technique that forces the target to breath in a small amount of air with less then 6% oxygen content knocking the target out almost instantly"

Steve's the guy who survives either cold or under water pressure of underwater. Steve was still conscious after lack of oxygen tho. Notch Apple, Regenerationn potions and Totem of Undying problem solved.

-Also by Literally making his body being like a feather not gonna help from explosives.

Hey, you should take Creepers' advice. Suicide bombing would do the job to take down Yujiro. Also Steve isn't an idiot to stand there in the lava not attacking him since he could make tower and endlessly went archery to turn the battle into battle of attritio. Although the range combat fail Steve would make him exhaust.

>user can't take damage from punches, kicks or slashes

Too bad, Knockback enchantment defy physics and Fire Aspect II deals a lotta damage. Yujiro won't have resistance from Knockback and Fire Aspects enchantments.

>resists poison

Poisons were never meant to kill but wearing down the enemy. Also I don't see Yujiro resist Weakness effect

>Steve's movement are extremely stiff, his attack motion is always the same

Seriously that's kind of argument I've always heard at "Minecraft Steve Smash Ultimate" in youtube. Trust me it's annoying.

>I pretty sure that Yujiro are smart enough to not hitting any weird objects spawned by Steve.

He could figure it out however he won't unless he got hit by any of them.

-Ender Pearls can increase distances or surprisingly turn the battle Steve's favor.

-Levititation splash potion + enchanted bow and tipped arrow = FTW life hacks.
 
As far as movement speed, I'd have to give it to Yujiro. He's been able to blitz the security detail for the Prime Minister of Japan(who SHOULD have decent reflexes, due to training for their line of work). During Vietnam, he covered somewhere around 5-10 feet seemingly in an instant and moves so fast his shoes exploded. He almost instantly move from a complete split to his knees tucked into his chest area, and once, George Bush was kicked out of a second story building(Yujiro was in the same room). Yujiro was so fast, despite being in the room as Bush was falling, he made it to the ground before him and caught him. There was one instance where riot police were monitoring Yujiro with Binoculars(binoculars were used, so you can imagine it was a large stretch of distance between them), and Yujiro was able to move behind them before they even noticed he'd moved. Finally, Yujiro himself even claimed to be able to dodge lightning(I'd understand if you ignore this, as it's only a claim).

Steve, on the other hand, walks at 10 mph, sprints at 13 mph, even with Swiftness II, he can only reach 18 mph, so in movement speed, Yujiro stomps. Even when looking at water movement speed(let's say Steve has a bucket of water, and he intents to pour it on the ground to slow down Yujiro), Yujiro, using the hardest swimming form(breaststroke), is able to swim upstream against water exceeding 22 mph for 2 hours. Steve can swim at 5 mph at surface water, and 4 mph underwater. The movement speed disparity makes me say that I have to vote for Yujiro
 
BakiHanma18 said:
As far as movement speed, I'd have to give it to Yujiro. He's been able to blitz the security detail for the Prime Minister of Japan(who SHOULD have decent reflexes, due to training for their line of work). During Vietnam, he covered somewhere around 5-10 feet seemingly in an instant and moves so fast his shoes exploded. He almost instantly move from a complete split to his knees tucked into his chest area, and once, George Bush was kicked out of a second story building(Yujiro was in the same room). Yujiro was so fast, despite being in the room as Bush was falling, he made it to the ground before him and caught him. There was one instance where riot police were monitoring Yujiro with Binoculars(binoculars were used, so you can imagine it was a large stretch of distance between them), and Yujiro was able to move behind them before they even noticed he'd moved. Finally, Yujiro himself even claimed to be able to dodge lightning(I'd understand if you ignore this, as it's only a claim).
Steve, on the other hand, walks at 10 mph, sprints at 13 mph, even with Swiftness II, he can only reach 18 mph, so in movement speed, Yujiro stomps. Even when looking at water movement speed(let's say Steve has a bucket of water, and he intents to pour it on the ground to slow down Yujiro), Yujiro, using the hardest swimming form(breaststroke), is able to swim upstream against water exceeding 22 mph for 2 hours. Steve can swim at 5 mph at surface water, and 4 mph underwater. The movement speed disparity makes me say that I have to vote for Yujiro
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Speed is equalized.
 
"Absorbs all the body weight"

Okay? That doesn't help against the Thorn enchant, which magically damage enemies even if they use ranged attacks. There's no "body weight" involved here
 
In terms of durability, with no armor, Yujiro takes it. Things like normal arrows from presumably an English Longbow and lightning bolts have been shown to harm Steve to a certain degree, whereas Yujiro has caught an arrow from a much more heavy duty bow, doing so with his bare hands. Also, he's also completely no-sold a lightning bolt. Now, when armor comes into play, the situation changes.On Mohs hardness scale, diamonds have a 10, but that doesn't mean diamonds are good protection. Diamonds have a ton of cleavage planes, and since the armor is blocky, there's a cleavage plane at every corner. One good strike to the corner, and it'll fall apart. Yujiro has been tackled through walls at 164 mph and tanked it, he's been kicked through walls and toilets and wasn't affected, he was even forced to the ground for the first time ever by his son, and he got up from the assault unharmed. His son even pushed his fist INTO his father's stomach and punched so hard, a tree behind him rustled, like Saitama and the mountain during the Genos sparring match. He's been suplexed through concrete, tanked everything from a Town level fighter, and completely stopped a sword from a Town level fighter, not with his hands, but with his COLLAR BONE! I don't think Steve's durability can stack up to Yujiro

I'll vote Yujiro
 
Steve scales to a higher feat than Yujiro, Steve scales to 25 kilotons from someone who does the feat by moving
 
How? One can no-sell lightning, the other cannot. One is harmed by a normal bow and arrow, the other is unaffected by a bow and arrow on crack
 
I'm confused: how is it possible that Steve could tank that level of force, yet arrows can hurt him. The impact of the arrow does significant damage, yet Yujiro is completely fine after catching an arrow with a massive impact comparatively.
 
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