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Final Fantasy discussion thread III: Riding the Eternal Wind

PaChi2

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Hello everybody and welcome to the third dicussion thread!

FF III is my favourite btw, and the first I played.

Anyway, we can keep discussing as we please. Just stay civil and may the crystals guide us all. Also, remember taking a job lvl 72+ (iirc?) thief to the Odin fight.

In the previous one we had the heroes, so now its time for a villain!

DFF2015 Cloud of Darkness
 
I will ask everyone:

How many people do you prefer in a party?

4? Like in I, II, III,...

5? Like in IV?

3? Like in VII, VIII, IX,...

3.5? Im counting XII in here because it technically is 3 at a time, but ultimately you have a 6-man-party before game over.
 
Honestly I prefer the more the merrier because it feels like a more alive adventure. But because of balancing I would have to go with 3, that's the best number in my opinion for balance.
 
I honestly prefer 4. I like the 2 frontliners, 2 backliners approach. Its a classic. 1 Warrior, 1 ninja, 1 Black mage, 1 White mage.
 
Any thoughts on War of the Visions. I am not much of a Mobile Game person, but the idea of having FFTs back is pretty neat and they really seem to have put a lot of effort in it.
 
I'm honestly happy Tactics is getting revisited in some way (granted I'd like a proper console game). While obviously we have to wait and see how it fares when it's properly released, especially the Gachas and all that, it looks pretty nice in other regards.

If it has multiplayer to take missions with other players it could be great, the Multiplayer in Tactics for PSP was an absolute blast.
 
A Tactics/Ivalice-based MMORPG? How does that sound.
 
Isn't XIV set in Ivalice or something? (My bad if this is incorrect, I know nothing of it aside it's Y'shtola's home game).

But from what I get, raids and such surely are popular among events with Mobile players so having this ultra hard enemy squad to take down could be interesting with the Tactics System.
 
Oh no FFXIV does not take place in Ivalice. Though there is a raid called "Return to Ivalice from the Stormblood Expansion pack but it isn't cannon to the game's story. I believe the only games to take place in Ivalice were Tactics series, 12 and a spin off game called Vagrant Story which may take place in the same Universe as Final Fantasy 12. Is War of The Lions cannon to Tactics' story or is it a spin off of sorts?
 
Ah my bad. Thanks for clearing it up.

War of the Lions is an updated port of the original Tactics for the PSP, with new gameplay features, classes, cutscenes, updated translation, voice acting in the localized version and multiplayer modes.
 
Wow and you said this was for mobile? That's cool, shamefully I admit I play almost all of the major mobile games. Opera Omnia, Mobius, Record Keeper, and Brave Exvius.
 
Im currently playing New Game - in the FF XII, did anyone play it?
 
Bware: We mixed things up, War of the Lions, the Tactics port, is a PSP game. War of the Visions is a Brave Exvius spinoff that seems to play just like tactics... which admitedly makes me wanna try it.

And nothing wrong with mobile games >_>; I just meant it as a matter of preference (and I have very little self restraint when it comes to not getting addicted to portable games)

@Pachi: I played it, but little after release date... loooooong ago. I remember very little

EDIT: Holy crap! A solid argument for Low 2-C Cloud!
 
Vincent is completely outedged by Shadow, that's a stomp XD. Sephy vs Alucard would have been pretty cool to see, though.

Before the Supernova recalc I actually was kinda afraid that due to some weird math shaeningans the cast could shoot up to baseline 4-A, that would have meant they'd have become the punching bags of all the starry dimension bois, lol. A lot of well known game characters have a 4-A key, it's a actually a pretty good tier for cool fights.
 
That could work, I guess (and certainly would be pretty neat to fight recurring Superbosses such as Gil, Shinryu, FFV's Omega and such).
 
Ya'll probably know this song. But I needed to share it anyway. I just love it.

You see, FF III had this "supernatural adventure" feel from the very begining. After the first minutes of playthrough you are tasked with saving the world, have to save a kingdom and a princess, and proceed to travel across two continents.

The characters arent necessarily developed that much, because its not the story what matters, its the feeling of traveling, exploring, changing jobs as you like. Fighting for justice and light.

Its probably the child in me the one talking, as this was my first FF, but damn, the memories I have attached to it are gold.
 
That is by no means a bad thing, a lighthearted story can still be compelling and memorable. With a beautiful setting, a very fun gameplay system and wonderful soundtrack I can see why this game made such a memorable impact for you.
 
Well, I started with III and it turned out right.

I also enjoy turn based battles more.
 
III is a good choice, especially for the class system and before the darker plots of later on. I dunno if I'd recommend VII or VI as a starting point, tbh. In VI case it's kinda that tasty part of a dish you save for later.

So on other news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VovHI0JKxlg

Screw the schedule, I am playing this right away on release, got some unfinished business here.
 
Why wouldn't you reccomend the most popular FF as the starting point? It's relatively easy to get into and understand, hard but not too complicated to master, enough great side quests, secrets and mini games to boot. FFVII is the most popular one for a reason.

Wonder if VIII Remastered will include a Demon of VII's Remake. Like how years back Type-0 HD included a Demon of FFXV.
 
I'd recommend IV as a starting point for the I-VI part. And if they enjoyed IV, then VI.

VI is special.

For the VII-X part I'd recommend X as a starting point. X is easier to follow.
 
@Beware: While I do think VII is a phenomenal game, if we're giving a complete newcomer a taste of what to expect franchise wide, I think X, III, IV (their remakes mostly) can give the good sample of what the series can be about, how it feels to play more or less, while still being great games by themselves.

III has a very fun class system, is lighthearted enough with a simple yet enjoyable story that works as a good first step to enjoy yourself, let yourself be carried away, before tackling the more complex elements in other more story heavy games. IV has that old school balance of everything FF-ish, different classes but customization allowing for strategy, a simple yet lovely story, with drama and turns in reasonable doses, character with their arcs and proper development in a reasonable focus etc. X as Pachi and the video mentions has a lot of newcomer friendly elements, it mixes very well the classic fantasy feel with the technological bits of later entries, the story is more complex but aside some twists it's not convoluted nor too heavy handed, it looks great and the atmosphere is incredible even today.

While futuristic settings are common in FF today, the Cyberpunk aesthetic is not so much, and while only Midgar has it, it can be off putting for those expecting a fantastic world. While I do think the atmosphere and setting of VII still works out today, the graphics are dated and nowadays many players do pay a lot attention to graphics. The story can be rather convoluted if you haven't kept up with other materials of the Compilation (whether Cloud was real or not, the Sephiroth Clones in Nibelheim, the ending, among other things are rather ambiguous in the game itself). The combat Zig-Zags, if you like ATB, then it's perfectly serviceable, but if you're not too sold on it or expect it to have havier customization or complex strategy like the newer Persona games or the Bravely series, then it could be off-putting.

There's also the whole "This is the best game EVUR!" and "FFVII is OVARRAYTD!! stigmas that can stain the perception of the game, mainly planting expectations too high or putting a cynical filter on the player that may affect the entry on the series as a whole. Which I think could be better avoided if they person already has an opinion by themselves before tackling VII and having their own experience. I think VII is better reserved once a player has realized they do like FF and wants to experience the twists and turns VII offered once they have experienced the essence via other games.

I'd speak for IX as well, but I remember very little of it since I only played it once...
 
And on a bit of bad news, turns out the VIII remaster didn't have VA in the end. Apparently it was a mistake from the page. Well, there are no perfect plans.
 
@Bware: Dunno if gonna happen, but crossing my fingers.

@Pachi: After the issues with XV I don't think VIIR will go there this time. I mean, sure there are the preorder Summons, but no details on whether those can be obtained in other ways and so far no add ons seem to be on the way.
 
Perhaps Alternate Costumes? Like the Crisis Core and Advent Children attires or maybe alternate weapons since we already know you can equip different weapons for Cloud at leastfor DLC?.
 
Wish I could help, but know nothing of the Tactics games besides the original.

So, our boy Squall is squaring off against Trevor Belmont here, the guys are matched. Dunno about you, but I think it's pretty impressive to match a freaking Belmont in a fight.

@Beware: Alts would be pretty cool though, it would also allow to ruin dramatic tension in spectacular ways, like Aerith's death while Cloud is dressed in his expensive elegant dress and Barret is in his sailor suit.
 
Also not to mention it's Squall's Birthday today XD, tbh the only reason I chose Trevor Belmont among the other Belmonts is because if you look at them really close they can pass for Older and Younger versions of one another.
 
VIII will be out next month, I never played it but I have a massive list of games to go through already. I WILL make time for it if it worth it thought.
 
I definitely am going to revisit it. Finally finish all the sidequests, and enjoy the story again, and of course waste countless hours like an idiot playing Triple Triad

Definitely gonna get the Lion Heart this time around.
 
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