A Demon Hunter v.s A Mouse wields a keyblade

Mickey is obviously at 3-A

Mickey can use his standard equipment's

This is Devil May Cry 1 Dante at 3-A

Dante's Key can be change if wanted

Speed is equalized

Who wins and why?

Mickey with existencia erase, manipulation of space, manipulation of physics, cancellation of power, sealing, ect. both have a serrano ap so I could not give him a one shot and a lot of his hax would have no effect on Mickey in esccecion of the seal thing that mickey has so I'm going to mickey for his hax and because it's childhood :v

Dante has a massive AP advantage to the point of one shotting

>Sparda form DMC1 Dante

Goes for the kill with AP, Mickey revives due to AP and Dante immediately seals.Also is likely to use items and bangle of time due to his attitude here.

So, uhh, Dante one shots for a while then gets bored and seals FRA.

i guess dante FRA considering sparda DT is him fully hell bent to beat u up

Why wasn't Dante vs Sora added?

No, it wasn't.

I know it wasn't

Why?

Oh, dunno, maybe everyone forgot? Or nobody wanted to see that lose on Sora's profile?

Dante FRA I guess

Dante fra

Bump

BUMP

2 VOTES NEEDED

Dante FRA

How Dante has the AP advantage?

Mickey is above baseline

And the AP change post the KH revisions is why the Sora match was removed.

(aka, every single 3-A in KH is above baseline, which basically turned the match outdated)

Also, is this King Mickey or Composite Mickey?

Bobsican said:

How Dante has the AP advantage?
Mickey is above baseline

And the AP change post the KH revisions is why the Sora match was removed.

(aka, every single 3-A in KH is above baseline, which basically turned the match outdated)

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Looking through the page history for Dante and Sora I couldn't find didn't find anything about their match up even being added or taken away (even though I remembered it being on their profile). Anyways I tried to look up the AP change for KH but didn't find anything, How far much above baseline is Mickey?

Mickey is a little bit above baseline, but it´s still enought to be a difference

The scaling chain goes like this:

Mickey = Sora > Xehanort = Baseline 3-A + countless "worlds" which can be up to 4-A in size

And the AP change was in another thread, the attemp for tier 2 KH one, which is still 3-A, and so why it isn´t really mentioned in profiles

DMC1 Sparda form Dante is fairly high above baseline 3-A since we got confirmation that the Qliphoth itself was fusing the Human and Demon world.

The scaling would be like this for Sparda form Dante

Sparda DT Dante defeating Mundus

Mundus is equal to Argosax who can passively fuse the Demon and Human world even when sealed in another dimension (Feat above 3-A)

Mundus eating the Fruit and killing the Demon God

Demon God seperating the Human and Demon world (Feat above 3-A)

Qliphoth passively fusing the Demon and Human world together and producing the Fruit which is stronger than the Qliphoth (Feat above 3-A)

Baseline 3-A

Noteemon world is unknowingly larger than the Human world and even the weakest God tier (Demon God) is above baseline

Basically Sparda DT Dante can beat a guy, who ate a thing that allowed him to beat a guy, who is already above 3-A by at least 2x

That should at least mean that Mickey isn´t one shotted by AP gap at least.

Two shooted, on the other hand...

Second Chance and Once More still cover it, at least.

I don't think so, If Mickey is only equal to Sora who is superior to Xehanort who is baseline 3-A + countless worlds that are 4-A in size at max.That's only 2x above baseline 3-A compared to Sparda DT Dante being superior to numerous beings who are already 2x above baseline 3-A .

That's one shot territory.

I don't know why Dante vs Sora was removed now that I'm thinking about it.

The AP gap for one shotting in Vs. threads is of 7.5 times, then again

Meaning that it still is not one shotting territory

Dante should be in one shot territory since hes >>>> above baseline 3-A feat.Also, this is DMC1 Dante so he's willing to use Gold Orbs, items, Bangle of Time and will likely go for Sealing immediately if Mickey resurrects or comes back.

Gold Orbs aren´t standard equipment

Same for "items", unless you may be more explicit in that

And Mickey can do Time Stop too

Oh, and he can just use his Keyblade to open the sealing.

Bobsican said:

Gold Orbs aren´t standard equipment
Same for "items", unless you may be more explicit in that

And Mickey can do Time Stop too

Oh, and he can just use his Keyblade to open the sealing.

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He just has the items as abilities, they are items but also abilities.No need to mention them as Standard Equipment.

Is he willing to use it just like Dante?

Depends on what you mean by "open the sealing" because Dante sealing prevents the person from coming back, even those who can open portals or break seals

Gold Orb is completely valid but would be better if we know how many times Dante can use, just like Untouchable

And yeah, DMC1 Dante is more in character to use Time Stop and Sealing

Going with Dante FRA

It's a 7-0 lead Dante spanks.

Mickey leads with the time stop

And again, is this King Mickey or Composite Mickey? This changes the outcome of the match a lot

And by "Open the sealing", well, Keyblade users are explicitly stated to be able to open and close keyholes, which in this case could be translated to the sealing.

Dante resists Time Stop

Mundus have Interdimensional Avatar Creation, Portal Creation and Dimensional Travel and he couldn't escape the seal

This is composite Mickey Mouse @Bobsican

So, Dante is argued as one-shotting Mickey? Also, might outskill, their stamina ratings are identical, & he resists Time Stop, can Seal, etc. first. So, isn't that a Stomp?

Well, stomp or not, I value thoroughness, so I wanna look at what options Mickey has. First off, this isn't just Kingdom Hearts Mickey. If you look at the topics, this is Mickey Mouse (Composite), who's also the Mickey of Epic Mickey, the cartoons, as well as a Jedi Master.

Also, if OP cares/doesn't know.) (Since they said "Dante's Key can be change if wanted"), the Dante used here, DMC1 Dante, who besides having all of DMC3 Dante's abilities, is:

7-B in base, 3-A, possibly Low 2-Cwith Sparda Devil Trigger

That said, I don't know how the Sparda Devil Trigger is, nor how or why it makes the 7-B 3-A. Can someone please explain?

So, useful stuff for Mickey:

1. First off, as a Jedi Master, he has Precognition. How does this work?

2. Mickey's Lifting Strength is Class M, higher with Force amplification. Dante's in this key is At least Class 5. Class G with Sparda Devil Trigger. Since Class M's maximum is the minimum of Class G, & Mickey is "higher with Force amplification", how does Force amp work, & how high into their LS values are they? Because force amp might mean Mickey could be higher. Among other uses, this could allow him to disarm Dante.

3. Dienomite22 mentioned Dante will go for Sealing if Mickey resurrects or come back. Besides that Mickey doesn't have Resurrection (Unless I missed a hidden link.), how does Dante's Sealing work, & what prompts him to use it?

4. Does Mickey have the Electro-Box? Probably irrelevant because of how its powers seemed to be used, but OP didn't specify, & his Standard Equipment says: "Keyblade, Paintbrush, Golf club, Lightsaber, Electro-Box, The Great Armor, The Sorcerer's Hat, etc." (Etc.? Seriously?)

5. Mickey has Existence Erasure with his Paintbrush. As far as I can tell, neither DMC3 nor DMC1 Dante does not resist this.

6. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Mickey hard to kill because of this? Immortality and Non-Corporeal (Types 2 and 8; Lost his heart and doesn't need it to live which somewhat function as a soul.

Dante might have NPI for harming Intangible beings (However that works) but Mickey is sort of a Soul without his heart, apparently. Types 2 & 8 Immortality mean:

2: Resilient Immortality: Characters with this degree of immortality can survive injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person, without needing to heal from it.

8: Reliant Immortality: The character cannot die as long as a certain being, object, or even concept exists.

So, where's Mickey's Heart in this fight?

7. Duplication: In theory, enough clones could overpower statistical & skill advantages, especially with speed equalized & every clone being experienced, magical, toon-force having Jedi & Keyblade Masters, making them highly skilled. Also, can Dante seal them all at once, especially if they know it's coming?

8. Reflega, which can reflect melee & magical attacks, & often makes opponents recoil. Would this work on Sealing? Would make an opening, & also, how well can Dante take his own attacks?

9. Mickey can inflict statuses, & while Dante DOES resist Paralysis & Fear, he doesn't resist Blindness. And his only Enhanced Sense is "Enhanced Senses (Enhanced Sixth)". How does that work?

10. Mickey has Statistics Amplification, apparently, as shown here in this comic linked on his profile: https://orig01.deviantart.net/8826/f/2017/057/7/5/boots_by_doctormoodb-db0jgld.jpg Unfortunately, I'm unclear on how it works, & don't speak the language. Might try to translate later.

11. Does Dante have an answer to this: BFR (Sent Ugrun to the Land of Dreams)?

12. Mickey can actually outrange.

Range: Extended melee range (A couple meters) in regular melee, Planetary with magic and the Force.

Dante's range is Extended Melee, tens of kilometers with projectiles & energy attacks, Interdimensional with Alastor. What's Alastor & how does it work?

Not only that, Mickey can pull Dante into one place & trap him in a damaging vortex via Magnega. Even if Dante teleports out, as long as Magnega's point is there, it'll pull him in like it does with other enemies, & he doesn't resist Telekinesis, nor Magnetism, AFAIK.

It'd make him a very easy target, not to mention, swirling about, meaning he'd have to aim while locked in place & moving in directions he doesn't mean to, for several seconds.... Which is an eternity when the lowest speeds are Massively Hypersonic.

He can also do something similar, by using Fairy Sketch to make Dante float.

13. Does Dante have resistance to Broadway Force?

14. Would Mickey's Breaking the Fourth Wall be relevant here? Ex: Leave the fight's location, & screw with Dante like he does to Pete? Breaking the Fourth Wall (Can leave the cartoon and mess with the screen/frames of animatio)

15. Paint also gives Mickey Morality Manipulation? Does Dante resist that?

16. Besides Duplication, Mickey has Summoning (Can summon miniature versions of Donald, Pluto, Oswald, and Goofy to help him fight. Can summon magic brooms and the Great Armor when combining its five pieces) Dunno if they're on the same tier as Mickey even, nor if they're ideal distractions. Similarly, Life Manipulation for bringing Brooms to life, so those are additional pests.

17. Unlike Dante, Mickey has Hammerspace, which may allow him to get around being disarmed if Dante cuts his Paintbrush or something.

18. Mickey also has: Wish Granting, Biological Manipulation and Power Nullification (Comes from volume 2 of Wizards of Mickey) Dunno how they work, but I'm sure they have some uses.


So yeah. I don't think this Mouse is COMPLETELY cornered like a rat.

Gosh datum

1.The ability of foresight was perhaps universal to the Jedi or Force-sensitives and was manifested in the form of Force visions of future events, guiding premonitions or warnings, and an inflow of prescience that helped the Jedi predict their opponent's movements.

This ability in the Force was not restricted to the Jedi, however, as the Sith also were known to perceive direction and insight from the dark side.


2. It's a device that could amplify the Force to meet the user's need in every way. It was also the source of force-sensitivity itself. This meant that used properly, it could make people Force-sensitive. It also meant that, if destroyed, Force-sensitivity itself would be destroyed. However, this was made extremely unlikely, for it couldn't be harmed by lightsaber, or any other weapon, such as the Death Star superlaser. It could only be destroyed by the Dagger of Mortis.

3. The Keyblade's signature ability is the power to open or close any lock or door, be it to a physical object, to the heart of a person or world, or to a gate or pathway between worlds. For objects like treasure chests, this merely requires tapping the chest, while for more magical locks, the Keyblade generally operates by emitting a bright, thin beam of light from its tip, or by being thrust directly into the keyhole or person's chest.

4. I changed the OP, Mickey is now allowed to use his standard equipment's.

5. Yes you are right

6. Yes he's hard to kill, He will come back to life as long as his friend's remember him.

11. Dante can come back from BFR since he has Dimensional Travel.

13. No he doesn't but Dante does resist Reality Warp which is Toon Force.

14. Dante could follow him since he has Dimensional Travel

15. Dante doesn't resist Morality Manipulation

@Dante Demon Killah

Can answer rest of the your questions for Dante.

Morality manipulation is mindhax, he resists

Gasp

Bump

So what's the outcome of this match?

Are the votes for Dante nullified for now, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Argh

I would all of Imaginym's DMC related questions but I simply don't have the time at the moment since I'm busy with real life stuff and GoH profiles, sorry.