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The Sonic AP here is BS

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Sonic literally damages the being who tanked his own black hole which can consume stars and create a large amount of them as well. https://www.instagram.com/p/BpVEu27...As5w8L3nakx4qUdB5CP4Il7XTWkYprDyRjq0e1kU7x2aE https://www.instagram.com/p/BpAMBo5...O5OEoX4mB-zTnVplEwK21XulfvaymUHq4-Hp0Aj0NnB7w has Dwarf Star level AP just upon boosting

Sonic Colors: Sonic Battles The Nega-Wisp Armor For reference: Sonic The Hedgehog Vs Nega Wisp Armor (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_4xNtWPt74) As we can see from the link above, Sonic was capable of overpowering every single attack that the Nega Wisp Armor put forward by simply just boosting himself forwards - ranging from stopping it's Yellow Drill & Orange Rocket abilities to completely negating the Violet Void. (http://sonic.wikia.com/wiki/Nega-Wisp_Armor) One of the previously mentioned abilities, just upon activation, makes use of Large Planet Level+ energies (27 Ninatons) and Sonic overpowers all the abilities showcased. (https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Executor_N0/Sonic_Franchise:_Say_hello_to_a_Nega_Wisp) Therefore, Sonic, through just boosting forward with his speed, is capable of overpowering attacks of Large Planet Level+ AP. Concluding Statement Sonic The Hedgehog is capable of at least Dwarf Star Levels of AP upon just Boosting

apparently, still, planet level you some dumbass people excuse my language but Jeebus
 
We have a very strict rule regarding Black Hole Feats in Fictio; 99% of black holes are fake black holes. They do not indicate Star level, nor did I see any stars being engulfed in the example shown.

And that calc was rejected by the very same person who made the calc due to the fact that it was a fake black hole; not even close to demonstrating anything to a real black hole. Also, the language and tone of the OP is very inappropriate yes.
 
No, I just thought I make one sarcastic joke to prove my point and make this debate more enjoyable stop trying tide track me instead debunk me if you have nothing else to say then BEGONE THOT Okay I'll stop with jokes
 
You're overlooking and dismissing all his arguments based on one curse word? Sorry that he hurt your precious feelings on the internet so badly but that doesn't change the fact that you have yet to debunk his arguments. Address his points or concede.
 
We're dismissing his arguments on the basis that black hole feats are mostly unreliable. Don't put words in our mouth.
 
Which he proved overwise in this case because he proved they have the properties of real black holes and have devoured stars regardless. Stop cherry picking his arguments.
 
Hmm? why are they considered unreliable because precious wiki says it? lol you saying it is doesn't debunk TAILS SAYING IT'S A BLACK HOLE!!! just because black holes in fiction aren't real most of the time doesn't mean they aren't tails stated the meteors manipulate gravity to make black holes if gravity collapses in on itself it's black hole prove it being an outlier I doubt you can if you can't disprove his black hole being fake and your only argument is other blacks holes are mostly fak then you lose because those only apply to other fictional verses I haven't even begun on most of my arguments so go ahead do your best and try to debunk it I guarantee you'll be met with the next one
 
Read the scans you liberal and the vids I sent you tails states something you most likely missed like tails saying it caused a polarity it sucks up Stars it was caused from gravity manipulation tails stating it is a black hole and mind you HE HAS AN IQ OF ******* 200 so he isn't wrong again excuse my language but damn are you guys brain dead
 
He's literally brought 0 evidence; and same with the black hole demonstrating absolutely no behaviors of a real black hole. We aren't cherry picking but merely pointing out common sense. Same with the star level stuff, who a clip of it or something. There was nothing.
 
OMFG I JUST PROVED IT READ THE SCANS IT SUCKS UP STARS LIKE A BLACK HOLE and has gravity manipulation I don't even have to prove it's a black hole the fact it sucks up Stars is enough
 
you guys are just saying my arguments or not existent when I provided links with knuckles saying that the divine wings have Stars the lightless blacks suck them up which are black holes confirmed by tails ******* dumbass excuse my language
 
The statement about the stars sounds more like flowery language and there is no animation to prove that stars were getting sucked.

I also need to note that surviving inside a real black hole is technically a High 3-A feat, but that would be a massive outlier as mentioned above if it were legit.
 
Yet again, someone saying something doesn't make it consistent. Just because Reed Richard's says something in fiction is a black hole doesn't mean it's true if it's not consistent.

Sonic isn't FTL, he and everyone else would have been sucked in immediately if it was real.

Even if it is a real one, it'd be an outlier. They have no other feats on that level.
 
Semajar The Debunker said:
HE HAS AN IQ OF ******* 200 so he isn't wrong again excuse my language but damn are you guys brain dead
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Don't think just saying "I am not being serious" will let you get away with saying anything you want.

Argue your points in a more respectful manner and Refrain from making comments like this again. Thank you.
 
Yeah, it's pretty clear you're not joking. You're just getting angry. If you plan on making any contributions at all I suggest you get over yourself and your ego. Read the black hole page and then make an argument and stop acting like a jackass.
 
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because you guys keep saying I have no evidence that these are black holes when tails states it here https://youtu.be/13p0dy7h3-k 1:58 it even said it's the lightless black further on in the cutscene which devoured Stars
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Cool. That doesn't matter. Prove it has the properties of a black hole.
 
sigh the plumes where considered Stars still the black hole literal was stated by tails to be changing and manipulating gravity like the lightless black
 
Except that the "Black Hole" is much smaller than the Earth and would thus not even be close to sucking up a single real star. And it also has very finite gravity; it's more like a super charged vacuum than a real black hole. It doesn't fit the black holes described in Hawking's theories.
 
Sonic isn't FTL, he and everyone else would have been sucked in immediately if it was real.

Sonic is FTL, though I'm pretty sure the black hole would've destroyed the planet if it were real.
 
your applying real-world science to a fictional verse seriously also note to self the lightless black attacked the plumes and the plume became Stars whirling back to this land if tails states the gravitational polarity is manipulating dangerously and if it actually has properties of a black hole like looking like one sucking up multiple things why isn't it a black hole
 
its ******* fiction anything could happen if going FTL sonic's verse did happen Sonic would be destroying the land and his own planet by sonic booms and hydrogen atoms not fast enough to get out of the way but he's FTL regardless and is proven FTL same applies for the black holes
 
I mean, yeah. How else are we supposed to get accurate ratings? If you don't like it, go to a different site, we're not changing it for one guy throwing a tantrum.
 
It's a massive double standard to give Sonic special treatment when there are countless other verses that would be upgraded to High 3-A if we went by his logic.
 
tell me why isn't it a real black hole because it was fornmed from manipulating the polarity of gravity
Black holes can be formed if gravity collaspes in on itself with an object to form a black hole it's not like it's actually stated it's a fake black hole you don't have evidence it is other then to use other fiction to downplay the feat and say it's fake this isn't the only argument I have
he beat infinite who created Null space which was closed off from every dimension including time and 3D whcih is Universal or 5D at wank

https://youtu.be/gyhGHtKRjZg YouTube Pixelated Sonic Sonic Forces - Cutscene 20 (Null space)
Sonic bodied an even stronger Robot with the avatar and classic sonic's help and the robot had no energy source for you to attack it with and weaken it like infinite

Sonic is actually Multi-Solar System for that feat cause Emerl captured the energy of the Final Egg Blaster which can destroy all stars with a single blast. https://www.instagram.com/p/BpAJRwb...FKF8hTpGY_zhq5hwMYHOs8X8xQH_yN7IqjOJ6dBpCB-BI https://www.instagram.com/p/BpAKLDM...DJg0_xDRmtT_qug6g44C9nD3z4bhzHeBqZ8SQ0E9rUQVc ^When Emerl captured the energy/data his abilities are increased far beyond his normal ones and with the energy of the Chaos Emeralds being added to that his abilities are further enhanced even more.
and he did tank his punches and yes he Emerl captured energy from the final Egg blaster's laser it's not quantified how much he copied but Eggman did say or was confident in it being a success meaning he captured a lot of it
Emerl beat the shit out of shadow but shadow still tanked his punches and it was proven sonic and shadow can go toe to toe with each other sonic even beat the shit out of him in sonic battle before the Emerl fight proving shadow has Large Star level durability and sonic can fight that meaning he is Large Star level


Base game sonic was able to defeat Erazor Djinn who was able to destroy and absorb the Arabian night's universe https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546189301436907521/550499779965091856/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546189301436907521/550500059934883860/unknown.png the Arabian nights has many stories told of it Erazor Djinn was able to carve up/destroy 1/10 of these stories which are basically 1/10 of the universe https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...5f9151029173c36c855eab7567r1-720-496v2_hq.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/546189301436907521/550498708836319232/unknown.png easily low Multi galaxy level The Arabian night's universe has an infinite world in it which means these worlds can be considered as universes/dimensions Base Sonic fodderized Erazor Djinn https://youtu.be/QB_bhZglckc conclusion this is a Multi galaxy level feat to High universal level feat I'm still saving one feat for last btw
 
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